To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

Jews form 0.5% of the UK population in England and Wales. Many leaders simply don't think it's worth trying to protect them or their interests because they don't have the numbers.

Today, we walked down George street in Sydney CBD and unbelievably the usual Palestinian supporting morons were out in force waving their stupid flags. It beggars belief it really does.

Completely believable. They were at it while October 7 was still happening and Israel hadn't begun any response yet, they were at it right after the Manchester attack. But did they say anything about Hamas shooting Gazans in the head when the ceasefire was announced? Do they say anything about Hamas embedding itself under schools and hospitals and using aid money to fund tunnels and terror? Do they ever call on Hamas to disarm and surrender and start working towards a two state solution under other Arab leaders? Do they fuck.

And then they claim moral superiority and pretend they care about preserving life.

It beats me. Are authorities for Islamists, just after their votes, or afraid of their power? I don’t understand why middle-class people have latched onto the cause and are eagerly demonising any Jewish people.

Looking at Christmas markets, for example, why are we all over Europe just shrugging about bollards and concrete blocks. A dog-walking acquaintance has just returned from a Christmas market trip to Germany. They said it was depressing - cages to walk through, armed police and Palestine flags. A lot of the stalls were shut up. Previously they said at that market there were oompah bands and a very jolly atmosphere. But we all roll over and skirt round the problem.

Tiredboymum22
Agree. I clicked on a Candace Owen short just before bed last night (why God, why?).
It was absolutely rancid. Telling black Americans to wake up & recognise their enemy isn't the white man, but 'Jews'. I could hardly believe what I was hearing. This is off the scale. Evil.
Couldn't sleep for hours, just thinking about this, & so many views & comments in agreement.
I'm not Jewish- I've got absolutely no idea what to do, & how to help.
It's like being stuck in a terrible nightmare. Feel so helpless.

Have you seen Candace Owens’ latest podcast?

3.2 m views! Straight from Goebbel’s playbook! So many comments agreeing with her too.

I personally know people who listen to her. People I thought were sensible.

Unfortunately there are also some, even if they believe that the Holocaust was real, they take the view that it was a long time ago and people should be over it by now.

Not my view, obviously. I had at least 40 relatives murdered in the Holocaust.

We were shown at school those terrible films of when soldiers went into the concentration camps and what they found. If someone were very thin, people would say they looked as if they’d been in Belsen. The images were horrifically clear in the mind.

And here we are a few decades later with it all seemingly forgotten - it’s really bizarre to me.

But I suppose for the (uneducated) young the 1930/40s is some time in the past and not relevant. I even saw that a chunk of students in the US couldn’t even name 9/11 as an atrocity. I don’t know if they’re wilfully blind or just plain stupid.

We were shown at school those terrible films of when soldiers went into the concentration camps and what they found. If someone were very thin, people would say they looked as if they’d been in Belsen. The images were horrifically clear in the mind.

And here we are a few decades later with it all seemingly forgotten - it’s really bizarre to me.

But I suppose for the (uneducated) young the 1930/40s is some time in the past and not relevant. I even saw that a chunk of students in the US couldn’t even name 9/11 as an atrocity. I don’t know if they’re wilfully blind or just plain stupid.

Me too and there are many more like us ❤️

I'm old, born 5 years after the end of WW2. When I was a teenager I saw a TV programme on the Holocaust and was shocked and horrified that Jews (and others I know, but mainly Jews) were treated like that. I have been on their side ever since, and am absolutely disgusted that antisemitism has raised its ugly head in my lifetime. I fear for this country and the Jewish population.

The Hamas koolaid is very effective, unfortunately. But I also think there is something else going on that might explain the oddly consistent 20% that keeps appearing in the vote count on threads like this.

Out of curiosity, I asked Copilot "Are some people only able to think of complex issues in terms of numbers (e.g. war statistics)? If so, what proportion of the general population is this, and why are they like that?"

The answer (edited down here!) was that some people "have a cognitive style that leans heavily toward quantitative reasoning... Cognitive science recognizes that people vary widely in how they process information. One major axis of variation is numerical cognition — the tendency to understand the world through quantities, proportions, and statistical relationships. ... This means some individuals naturally gravitate toward numbers when interpreting complex issues like war, economics, or public health. There is no single statistic for “people who think in numbers,” but we can triangulate from related research. Up to 20% of the population is considered neurodivergent, and some neurodivergent profiles — such as autistic or analytical thinkers — often show a preference for structured, quantitative information. Some neurodivergent individuals (e.g., autistic thinkers) often prefer structured information, predictable systems, and quantifiable patterns. This can make numbers feel more reliable than narratives. For others, numbers offer emotional distance from difficult topics (like war casualties). Quantification can feel safer than engaging with the human suffering behind the numbers."

So for whatever reason, some people prefer to view things just as a numbers game, so can only look at how many have died in Gaza vs Israel and assume that anyone supporting Israel only does so because they feel an Israeli life is of more intrinsic value than a Gazan's. This is why we keep getting the "oh, you just discount them because they're brown" bullshit.

Like PPs, I am actually reassured that the ratio on this thread is 80:20. It's the other way round on the CITME board, which is why only brave souls like @Twiglets1 venture on there...!

I'm old, born 5 years after the end of WW2. When I was a teenager I saw a TV programme on the Holocaust and was shocked and horrified that Jews (and others I know, but mainly Jews) were treated like that. I have been on their side ever since, and am absolutely disgusted that antisemitism has raised its ugly head in my lifetime. I fear for this country and the Jewish population.