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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Datchydoo · 15/12/2025 12:02

my DD attended one of her good friends Batmiztvah parties recently at their local synagogue. They had to hire security ar the front gates. Security guards for a 13 year olds party. What is this country/world coming to? 😢

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 12:01

I'm not a Liberal Jew, I'm an atheist, and even I know that the whole chosen people thing is an obligation to God not a top trump card.

couldthisbethenewname · 15/12/2025 12:00

LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:35

So true. I follow David Schwimmer on Instagram and he has posted some clips over the past few years that have honestly shocked me.

In what way? Sorry i’m not on socials so curious. He’s jewish so not posting antisemitic stuff I hope?

PoppysAunt · 15/12/2025 11:59

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What about the Iranian Mullahs and the leadership of Afghanistan who believe that no women should have civil or human rights?
Do we blame our Muslim neighbours for that? Say they've got a target on their back?

MidnightPatrol · 15/12/2025 11:58

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 11:50

I don't think that explains how we got to the point that large parts of the left gave up on class analysis and adopted anti-semitic standpoints to showcase their legitimacy as a progressive voice. What happened there?

I think that has to do with people being unable to separate Judaism and Zionism.

SunnyViper · 15/12/2025 11:56

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PoppysAunt · 15/12/2025 11:53

Fernsrus · 15/12/2025 11:49

The government in Israel has done what it was always obvious it would do. And which has been pointed out, previously. Which is that it’s genocide has resulted, amongst other things, in nutcases worldwide who mistakenly believe they are taking revenge. I don’t support it, because I don’t support any violence, but I think that’s what’s happening.

How come people don't take terrorist revenge for atrocities, massacres and genocides in Sudan and Nigeria?
How come only revenge for events involving Israel?

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 11:50

MidnightPatrol · 15/12/2025 11:42

I think it’s actually a broader question than that - which is what do western countries do about radical Islam and the number of angry young men being radicalised into attacking people in the name of Islam.

Jewish communities are a target because of the ongoing conflict in Gaza - but, there is a more general trend in terrorism against ‘the west and western values’, and in particular by young men originating from / second generations from a handful of countries.

I don't think that explains how we got to the point that large parts of the left gave up on class analysis and adopted anti-semitic standpoints to showcase their legitimacy as a progressive voice. What happened there?

kittywittyandpretty · 15/12/2025 11:50

MidnightPatrol · 15/12/2025 11:42

I think it’s actually a broader question than that - which is what do western countries do about radical Islam and the number of angry young men being radicalised into attacking people in the name of Islam.

Jewish communities are a target because of the ongoing conflict in Gaza - but, there is a more general trend in terrorism against ‘the west and western values’, and in particular by young men originating from / second generations from a handful of countries.

I agree the Jews are being targeted at the moment, but I don’t see it ending there

Fernsrus · 15/12/2025 11:49

The government in Israel has done what it was always obvious it would do. And which has been pointed out, previously. Which is that it’s genocide has resulted, amongst other things, in nutcases worldwide who mistakenly believe they are taking revenge. I don’t support it, because I don’t support any violence, but I think that’s what’s happening.

2DemisSVP · 15/12/2025 11:47

I think it’s really interesting how Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries. The policies of 1930s nazi Germany were horrendous. Yet that’s not why we went to war with Germany. We sat back and watched that unfold. Why was that ?

I have met and had Jewish friends at various points in my life. I don’t understand the hatred.

if protesters object to the current Israeli Government and its actions, then make that clear in the protests. Many Jewish Israelis appear to feel the same, but are alienated by the protests because they chant anti Jewish slogans. If peace is the goal, that’s really important because those who want peace need their voices to be loudest.

I also think the closest the UK has got to what Israel is going through, is the IRA. I was a child during that time, and was so afraid of the northern Irish accent because that’s what you heard on the news when there was a bomb. Just think the fear on both sides in Israel / Palestine will hold back any peace. It’s so sad.

MidnightPatrol · 15/12/2025 11:42

I think it’s actually a broader question than that - which is what do western countries do about radical Islam and the number of angry young men being radicalised into attacking people in the name of Islam.

Jewish communities are a target because of the ongoing conflict in Gaza - but, there is a more general trend in terrorism against ‘the west and western values’, and in particular by young men originating from / second generations from a handful of countries.

FindItHardTozmakeFriends · 15/12/2025 11:39

The Jewish community in this country are massively productive, never cause any bother, get on with it, and are persecuted, enabled by our government.

I just don’t get it either.

TidyCrow · 15/12/2025 11:36

Double post.

TidyCrow · 15/12/2025 11:36

I've been concerned about antisemitism for a while, and made that clear on other threads.

But I don't think "Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism" is an accurate description of that thread.

LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:35

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 11:34

It is rife in politics, academia and in the unions. I don't know how we'd even begin to tackle it in the wider population when it is tolerated and encouraged within our institutions.

So true. I follow David Schwimmer on Instagram and he has posted some clips over the past few years that have honestly shocked me.

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:34

Come on, those of you who say I am being unreasonable, tell us why.

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Upstartled · 15/12/2025 11:34

It is rife in politics, academia and in the unions. I don't know how we'd even begin to tackle it in the wider population when it is tolerated and encouraged within our institutions.