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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Beachtastic · 23/12/2025 12:54

Kingscallops · 23/12/2025 11:54

Agree with both @Beachtastic And @Twiglets. That is a dreadful board with some sinister posters and I mean sinister.

It was much more so in the immediate aftermath of 7/10 and for about a year after. Many of my posts were deleted for pointing out (as politely as I could) that they were simply making up wild and easily disproved inflammatory nonsense. Whole threads gloated over Israeli suffering and were left to stand. Many threads were started and continued with simple cut-and-paste from X/Insta bollocks with no commentary, which surely broke all the rules about spamming, yet they remained for months, attracting more spite and vitriol. Before deleting my account I wrote to MN about this, because I was extremely worried about Hamas infiltration. I get the feeling that at some point much later they might have agreed, or been forced to review this (the offending threads no longer exist, so presumably were retrospectively deleted), but the damage was done. Of course, MN was not the only target. It was this avalanche of malicious disinformation that initially made me so wary of the so-called "pro-Palestinian" marches that were arranged on 7/10 and have continued ever since. Something else is going on here, a war fought by different methods than we are used to seeing. I think the Gaza conflict will go down in history as a watershed in recognising the potential dangers of social media.

Kingscallops · 23/12/2025 11:54

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:10

Strange.

I've listed examples of where Candace Owens has made antisemitic comments.

My examples have been deleted!

Susan asked for examples and so I provided lots of antisemitic comments that Candace has said.

Agree with both @Beachtastic And @Twiglets. That is a dreadful board with some sinister posters and I mean sinister.

Twiglets1 · 23/12/2025 10:20

Beachtastic · 23/12/2025 09:47

I was hounded around MN generally by such scary characters from the CITME forum that I deleted my long-standing MN account. This might sound ridiculous, but the content they were posting was so twisted that I honestly didn't know if I might be targeted one day by extremists, even though rationally I know IP addresses aren't easy to locate. I just decided I wasn't taking any chances.

It doesn't sound ridiculous. Some of the more aggressive posters on the CITME board are actually scary with the level of vitriol that gets directed at anyone that disagrees with them about Gaza. None of the more reasonable pro Palestinian supporters ever challenges them on the way they talk to people, which is disappointing as some seem decent people in other ways.

There was one person I had to report because I actually felt bullied, the constant comments directed at me were so nasty. Even though many comments got deleted, they would pop up again the next day to start again. I'm not someone that easily feels intimidated but there is a feeling that they don't just disagree with people that support Israel, they hate them. It's a little taste of how it must feel to be openly Jewish in the UK today so I can totally understand why some people choose to hide the fact they are Jewish.

Beachtastic · 23/12/2025 09:47

Humdingerydoo · 22/12/2025 22:10

Oooh What's the pay difference the days you are acting as an apprentice compared to when you're a full-blown pay-per-poster?

I'm still waiting for my cheques from almost two years ago when I dared mention that women were sexually assaulted by Hamas and other Gazans-turned-terrorists on October 7th. It was on a thread specifically about sexual abuse of women on October 7th 🙃 But apparently I was outrageous and therefore obviously Hasbara or possibly a bot for mentioning it.

I was hounded around MN generally by such scary characters from the CITME forum that I deleted my long-standing MN account. This might sound ridiculous, but the content they were posting was so twisted that I honestly didn't know if I might be targeted one day by extremists, even though rationally I know IP addresses aren't easy to locate. I just decided I wasn't taking any chances.

Twiglets1 · 23/12/2025 04:40

Humdingerydoo · 22/12/2025 22:10

Oooh What's the pay difference the days you are acting as an apprentice compared to when you're a full-blown pay-per-poster?

I'm still waiting for my cheques from almost two years ago when I dared mention that women were sexually assaulted by Hamas and other Gazans-turned-terrorists on October 7th. It was on a thread specifically about sexual abuse of women on October 7th 🙃 But apparently I was outrageous and therefore obviously Hasbara or possibly a bot for mentioning it.

The pay’s lower when I’m doing the apprenticeship I’m getting an NVQ 😊

Humdingerydoo · 22/12/2025 22:10

Twiglets1 · 22/12/2025 18:46

Oh yes I've been accused of that.

I've also been accused of being an apprentice to another pro Israel poster on the board.

Some of them have very vivid imaginations ...

Oooh What's the pay difference the days you are acting as an apprentice compared to when you're a full-blown pay-per-poster?

I'm still waiting for my cheques from almost two years ago when I dared mention that women were sexually assaulted by Hamas and other Gazans-turned-terrorists on October 7th. It was on a thread specifically about sexual abuse of women on October 7th 🙃 But apparently I was outrageous and therefore obviously Hasbara or possibly a bot for mentioning it.

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 22:05

mrswhiplington · 22/12/2025 22:03

My dad was in the parachute regiment in WW2. He was taken prisoner by the Germans and spent time in a couple of prison camps. He told me they used to see truck loads of dead bodies going past the camps frequently. He said to me "don't ever let anyone tell you that the Holocaust never happened". I will never forget that.

I have a Christian friend who I met at the very first hostage vigil in November 23. Her mother told her the same.

mrswhiplington · 22/12/2025 22:03

Freysimo · 21/12/2025 08:08

I'm old, born 5 years after the end of WW2. When I was a teenager I saw a TV programme on the Holocaust and was shocked and horrified that Jews (and others I know, but mainly Jews) were treated like that. I have been on their side ever since, and am absolutely disgusted that antisemitism has raised its ugly head in my lifetime. I fear for this country and the Jewish population.

My dad was in the parachute regiment in WW2. He was taken prisoner by the Germans and spent time in a couple of prison camps. He told me they used to see truck loads of dead bodies going past the camps frequently. He said to me "don't ever let anyone tell you that the Holocaust never happened". I will never forget that.

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 21:43

Beachtastic · 22/12/2025 21:31

I mean she also thinks the moon landings were fake.

https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1487107786609676289

I'm never sure if she just talks bollocks as clickbait or is just unhinged. Probably a bit of both.

And the ridiculous stuff she says about a Brigitte Macron.

Twiglets1 · 22/12/2025 20:22

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:15

Thanks.

Some if the things Candace has said are despicable. If someone read those comments and thought I was making them, they would report since abhorrent. I was quoted to assist Susan with her lack of knowledge. Strange, Susan hasn't heard of Candace Owens appalling comments.......

I don't think anyone on this thread genuinely thought you were saying these things as your own opinion. You are upset which was probably the intention in reporting you.

Don't worry about it, just try to move on.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:17

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 20:13

Seems like the mods take down anti Semitic comments when not posted by actual MNetters. Strange indeed.

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Was providing Susan with an answer to her 'never seen/heard' poor Candace saying anything antisemitic.... naturally I don't agree with comments she made, they are abhorrent.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:15

Twiglets1 · 22/12/2025 20:12

MN mods sometimes make mistakes because someone reports a post, they read that one post and delete it without understanding the context. I would email them and explain (if you can be bothered).

Thanks.

Some if the things Candace has said are despicable. If someone read those comments and thought I was making them, they would report since abhorrent. I was quoted to assist Susan with her lack of knowledge. Strange, Susan hasn't heard of Candace Owens appalling comments.......

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 20:13

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:10

Strange.

I've listed examples of where Candace Owens has made antisemitic comments.

My examples have been deleted!

Susan asked for examples and so I provided lots of antisemitic comments that Candace has said.

Seems like the mods take down anti Semitic comments when not posted by actual MNetters. Strange indeed.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:12

Susan7654 · 22/12/2025 15:14

Few people criticize Cadice here. Those people havent really listened to her talking about why she has those opinions. Just listen to it and than make your judgement, or even better , prove her wrong.

I've listed numerous of her antisemitic comments for you, since you appear 'unaware' and strangely letting you know what she has said/claimed has resulted in a deleted post. Odd.

Twiglets1 · 22/12/2025 20:12

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:10

Strange.

I've listed examples of where Candace Owens has made antisemitic comments.

My examples have been deleted!

Susan asked for examples and so I provided lots of antisemitic comments that Candace has said.

MN mods sometimes make mistakes because someone reports a post, they read that one post and delete it without understanding the context. I would email them and explain (if you can be bothered).

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:10

Strange.

I've listed examples of where Candace Owens has made antisemitic comments.

My examples have been deleted!

Susan asked for examples and so I provided lots of antisemitic comments that Candace has said.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:07

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SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 20:03

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"Candace Owens has made numerous controversial and widely condemned statements about Jews, which critics, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the organization StopAntisemitism, have described as antisemitic. Her comments led to her departure from the conservative media outlet The Daily Wire in March 2024."

"Her statements and actions have included:
Holocaust minimization and denial: She has questioned the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust and referred to Nazi medical experiments as "bizarre propaganda". In 2018, she said, "If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany," a comment for which she faced significant backlash.
Promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories: Owens has repeatedly pushed various conspiracy theories, including claims that "secret Jewish gangs" control Hollywood, that a "cabal" of Jews were behind the assassinations of historical figures like the Russian Czar, and that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) was involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy."

"Bizarre propaganda" just wow.....how disgusting.

Beachtastic · 22/12/2025 19:45

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You might find the narrative of this thread (!!!) unpalatable, but life is too short to waste on explaining why someone like Candace Owens is quite obviously stark raving bonkers. I mean, it's not even disputed in the normal world. If you enjoy her content, "you do you" as they say on MN, but I'm not sure why you're posting here of all places.

Twiglets1 · 22/12/2025 19:29

Susan7654 · 22/12/2025 18:59

How it was anysemitic? Explain please

If you email Mumsnet they will explain to you why they deleted your post.

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 19:12

25milesfromhome · 22/12/2025 19:05

She really has said all of those things and so much more, I don't know how you can have missed it.

"Susan" is trying that approach where someone oh so reasonably asks us why a blatant antisemite is antisemitic, or why their posts complaining about Jews taking offence at antisemitism are antisemitic.

It's disingenuous filibustering time wasting that pushes the pertinent responses further off the page so Susan can more easily ignore them.

keepeofthesevenkeys · 22/12/2025 19:12

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Admittedly I think the part about a Rabbi being drunk on Christian blood is from a post she liked. But the rest are things she has said.

25milesfromhome · 22/12/2025 19:05

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She really has said all of those things and so much more, I don't know how you can have missed it.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 19:02

Beachtastic · 22/12/2025 15:23

And "disproving" her is a pointless exercise because the people who lap up that sort of crap are not actually interested in a reality check. Hence the futility of posting anything on the CITME board.

This.