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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 09:46

Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 09:39

Where is your uproar on the thousand of Palestinians being killed. Or is that soviet propaganda too?

This isn't about the Palestinians, it's about an unrelated murder of innocent people celebrating on a beach. Why dont you just admit you're a racist. Don't bother to dress it up because you clearly wear it as a badge of honour. You actually hide your bigotry behind the millions of other bigots who feel proud to hate Jews. You're nothing but bullies feeling emboldened but heaven forbid anyone be so bold to do the same with Muslims. Bloody hypocrites. The lot of you. Cowardly hypocrites.

faffadoodledo · 17/12/2025 09:41

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:35

The people in Australia weren't involved in the conflict in Gaza. The Jewish people in the UK who need security at school, at home at synagogues are nothing to do with Gaza.

Anti semitism is not ok. Jewish people in the UK, the US and Australia should not be afraid.

Quite. The issue of whether Israel is guilty of war crimes is entirely divorced from the lives of Jews living in Australia or Manchester.
repeating an earlier point, but we don’t see attacks on Russians going about their lives or Russian Orthodox churches outside of Russia.
I wonder why? Hmmm…
Yep it’s that centuries old evil of antisemitism.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 09:40

Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 09:39

Where is your uproar on the thousand of Palestinians being killed. Or is that soviet propaganda too?

I am not going to engage with you anymore because it’s pointless.

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Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 09:39

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:57

You literally say ‘agenda’ in your last sentence.

🙄

Where is your uproar on the thousand of Palestinians being killed. Or is that soviet propaganda too?

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:37

PurpleThistle7 · 15/12/2025 12:44

do you disagree with the idea that 'globalise the intifada' is inherently problematic?

This is one of my local marches - hordes of masked students rampaging around campus regularly. With the stated and confirmed goal of eradicating israel. They put up signs all across campus to 'globalise the intifada' and 'death to the IDF' and shout that awful river to the sea chant.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C_D3DSZIL_n/?hl=en&img_index=1

Its disgusting. In plain sight.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:35

singmoon · 16/12/2025 22:29

Israel is guilty of war crimes. One day, Israeli people will need to come to terms with this. It will be a painful journey for them.

The people in Australia weren't involved in the conflict in Gaza. The Jewish people in the UK who need security at school, at home at synagogues are nothing to do with Gaza.

Anti semitism is not ok. Jewish people in the UK, the US and Australia should not be afraid.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 09:35

Beachtastic · 17/12/2025 09:29

These threads are all going the same way, with 20% amplifying Hamas propaganda and seeing no problem with the violent rise in antisemitism globally and here in the UK. Fuck them, there are always going to be idiots. What we need is for our own government to stop encouraging them. So-called "pro-Palestinian" rallies on the anniversary of 7 October, for example, should be an arrestable offence, not just gently warned against. Anyone shouting about globalising the fucking intifada should be dealt with severely. And so on. I'm not holding my breath...

I totally agree but unfortunately this government is going to do absolutely nothing to stand up for the Jewish community.

Just a few mealy mouthed speeches here and there which in the grand scheme of things mean f all.

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LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 09:33

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:32

10 year old Matilda in Australia who was killed because she was Jewish has NOTHING to do with Gaza.

👏 👏

Once more, for the hard of thinking!

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SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:32

singmoon · 16/12/2025 18:32

Israel cannot be excused for genocide, war crimes, murdering and starving children. At any time.

10 year old Matilda in Australia who was killed because she was Jewish has NOTHING to do with Gaza.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 09:32

Maray1967 · 17/12/2025 09:03

It’s a large part of why I resigned from my union after over 30 years of membership. Constant calls to boycott Israel. Very little about other countries.

That, and the realisation that the union shows no interest in defending members with GC views. Should have resigned years before.

Shocking how far and wide it’s spread.

Sounds about right though; all the kind people who stand up for the right (in their eyes) causes but have no problem throwing women, girls and Jewish people under the bus.

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Beachtastic · 17/12/2025 09:29

These threads are all going the same way, with 20% amplifying Hamas propaganda and seeing no problem with the violent rise in antisemitism globally and here in the UK. Fuck them, there are always going to be idiots. What we need is for our own government to stop encouraging them. So-called "pro-Palestinian" rallies on the anniversary of 7 October, for example, should be an arrestable offence, not just gently warned against. Anyone shouting about globalising the fucking intifada should be dealt with severely. And so on. I'm not holding my breath...

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:28

NC543210 · 16/12/2025 22:59

It is rife and the bondi beach thread was predictable and disgraceful.

I am not Jewish but Christian. What the Jewish communities are going through at the moment is hideous and I cannot get over that is 2025 and look at it?!

What gets me is the flippant attitude of people like they're either not aware/ or they just don't give a shit how wrong it is.

I reported a colleague last month for commenting on a news article he had read to another colleague " fucking jews"
I questioned him about it and he said but Gaza. 🙄
Now imagine it another way.

Me Christian, sat there reading a news article about the Manchester stabbings and saying " fucking muslims"
There would be uproar.

As it happens my work didn't do a thing about him but I suspect if it was reversed there would be hell to pay.

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This. It feels like it is open season on Jewish people. You couldn't (and correctly shouldn't) say that about all Muslims.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 17/12/2025 09:25

LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

💯 the Bondi thread shows how much anti semitism there is. Sadly, lots of those posters don't appear to realise it or don't care. Yet I imagine they feel they are 'nice, caring people ' they aren't, they are anti semitic.

The excuses for why Jewish people might be attacked were disgusting. Totally unable to separate Gaza and Jewish people around the world. Batshit thinking, but dangerous since it emboldens terrorists.

BackToLurk · 17/12/2025 09:09

singmoon · 16/12/2025 23:00

I am not British.

Let me guess. Irish?

Maray1967 · 17/12/2025 09:03

It’s a large part of why I resigned from my union after over 30 years of membership. Constant calls to boycott Israel. Very little about other countries.

That, and the realisation that the union shows no interest in defending members with GC views. Should have resigned years before.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:57

Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 08:53

Where did I mentioned agenda? And I’m quoting what’s further up the comments.
Unhinged comments that no one asks any questions. People and children are being murdered in Gaza but we talk “soviet propaganda” of imaginary levels that people believe the Palestinians and that they shouldn’t be there? You ok, hun?
Palestinian children are still being murdered every day where’s the uproar on that?

You literally say ‘agenda’ in your last sentence.

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Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 08:53

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:14

The irony of your post mentioning an ‘agenda’!

Where did I mentioned agenda? And I’m quoting what’s further up the comments.
Unhinged comments that no one asks any questions. People and children are being murdered in Gaza but we talk “soviet propaganda” of imaginary levels that people believe the Palestinians and that they shouldn’t be there? You ok, hun?
Palestinian children are still being murdered every day where’s the uproar on that?

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:40

So 20% of people on here still think antisemitism doesn’t need to be tackled.

Unbelievable.

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faffadoodledo · 17/12/2025 08:27

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Don't be ridiculous. You do know that antisemitism predates the Jewish state of Israel by many, many centuries?

Obviously not.

Your level of ignorance is astonishing.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:14

Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 08:07

Wow. This post is getting more and more Zionist unhinged. It started ok and it went downhill into oking the murder of thousand of Palestinian civilians as soviet propaganda.
and not a single word of thank you to the Muslim hero. Doesn’t for the agenda I guess.

The irony of your post mentioning an ‘agenda’!

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Henrysmycat · 17/12/2025 08:07

Wow. This post is getting more and more Zionist unhinged. It started ok and it went downhill into oking the murder of thousand of Palestinian civilians as soviet propaganda.
and not a single word of thank you to the Muslim hero. Doesn’t for the agenda I guess.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:04

Sorry for swearing but I honestly find it so disgusting.

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LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 08:01

SomethingFun · 17/12/2025 07:53

People know being antisemitic is socially unacceptable but they also are antisemitic in their bones so they come up with justification about why it’s ok to treat Jewish people differently to all other people. Israel could literally turn the other cheek to any and all attacks on its citizens, give every Palestinian in Gaza a million pounds and a massive patch of land and people would still happily argue that the country shouldn’t exist because they don’t think there should be a Jewish state full stop. I’m honestly appalled by posters whose usernames I recognise and their antisemitism that they dress up as ‘criticism of Israel’ because I believe it is perfectly possible to comment negatively on the actions of a country without descending into racism but they seem incapable of it. It always comes out eventually that they believe Jews are collectively responsible for what other Jews do or what Israelis do what with it having the audacity to be a country that actively welcomes Jewish people. The prejudice and ignorance drips from every post.

It makes me ashamed to be on mumsnet to be honest as usually people spouting crap have their arse handed to them, but when they’re spouting crap about Jews loads of people come out of the woodwork to agree with them.

Yes, there’s so many of them.

This is why I’m not sure how this can be dealt with going forward. Nothing seems to make a difference.

When 15 people are killed in a violent attack (including a little girl) and people still can’t keep their trap shut about Gaza, ‘war crimes’ and ‘genocide’ then it does feel like it’s all futile.

Just offer your sympathy and condolences or keep away from the thread ffs.

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Coachbella · 17/12/2025 07:58

OmNomShiva · 17/12/2025 07:34

Well, it was being referred to as Palestine long before the modern state of Israel was created.

And why was that ? Colonised lands to erase Jewish history , I mean it’s not difficult

SomethingFun · 17/12/2025 07:53

People know being antisemitic is socially unacceptable but they also are antisemitic in their bones so they come up with justification about why it’s ok to treat Jewish people differently to all other people. Israel could literally turn the other cheek to any and all attacks on its citizens, give every Palestinian in Gaza a million pounds and a massive patch of land and people would still happily argue that the country shouldn’t exist because they don’t think there should be a Jewish state full stop. I’m honestly appalled by posters whose usernames I recognise and their antisemitism that they dress up as ‘criticism of Israel’ because I believe it is perfectly possible to comment negatively on the actions of a country without descending into racism but they seem incapable of it. It always comes out eventually that they believe Jews are collectively responsible for what other Jews do or what Israelis do what with it having the audacity to be a country that actively welcomes Jewish people. The prejudice and ignorance drips from every post.

It makes me ashamed to be on mumsnet to be honest as usually people spouting crap have their arse handed to them, but when they’re spouting crap about Jews loads of people come out of the woodwork to agree with them.

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