To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

The UN is demonstrably antisemitic so their classification is expected

We arm the Saudis. And China. It’s never mentioned though. This idea that all the focus on Israel is completely reasonable and justified just does not tally with the intensity and tribalism associated with it.

But regardless, the point is that the discussion of antisemitism always seems to come back to Israel even when people are saying that they completely accept that British/Australian Jews are not responsible for Israel. Which is strange. We all accept it isn’t relevant but people keep making it relevant.

I just think there is so much moral confusion. People are seduced by this Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela, IRA ‘freedom fighter’ bullshit. Just because in some cases they got what they wanted, it doesn’t mean what they were morally right. The principle is clear. Targeting civilians is always wrong. Always.

Great so you can be equally outraged at both. Hmmm

I might take a dash of bigotry over the murder of a 10 year old or a middle aged couple. Your priorities are clear.

Do we in the west arm and support Iran? Or Afghanistan? And call them democratic and legitimate states? The two states are not in fact comparable to Israel. Though, just fur clarity, I would not under any circumstances condone seeing Jewish people worldwide as responsible for the crimes of Israel. Or Muslims worldwide for the actions of rogue Islamic states either.

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's never ok to kill children/starve a whole civilian population. The UN commission classified what has happened in Gaza as genocide.

It is. So is anti-Muslim hatred. Not mutually exclusive.

Throw in a dash of bigotry.

Yet antisemitism is boldly sang from the rooftops.

Reform is popular due to excessive immigration from a lot of different countries that have incompatible cultures to our own mainly vis a vis women and gay people (and Jews) and some of them seem to be unable to stop themselves attacking other people.

And that successive government don't seem to have the will to stop the illegal immigration of people coming in with those views or ability to chuck out any immigrant that commit crimes.

But Reform whatever other policies they have do have that will. And its the number one priority of the country. So thats why Reform are so popular.

Its not rocket science.

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's never ok to kill children/starve a whole civilian population. The UN commission classified what has happened in Gaza as genocide.

Can you share what you think would be a proportionate response to having your country constantly bombed and subject to terrorist attacks from people whose avowed intent is to eradicate said country from the face of the earth? And having thousands of evil men pour across your borders to perpetrate acts of such unspeakable and unimaginable depravity against your citizens that it defies the understanding of any normal human being?

Unfortunately yes, lots of people do. Why else is reform so popular?

Unfortunately yes, lots of people do. Why else is reform so popular?

What about the millions of Jews who are indeed Zionists and might even support the actions of Israel? (Not saying I'm one, just asking)... are they not entitled to the protection of their own countries? Do we have to prove we are worthy?

there are clearly millions of people of all sorts of religious and ethnic backgrounds who hold problematic views and yet they also deserve our protection. That's literally what makes us a democracy.

as an aside I would also love to know the correct response to October 7th. When Pearl Harbor was bombed the USA nuked Japan... twice.

What about the Iranian Mullahs and the leadership of Afghanistan who believe that no women should have civil or human rights?
Do we blame our Muslim neighbours for that? Say they've got a target on their back?

I’d like to hear the answer to this too.

How would people feel if this had happened at Glastonbury for instance?

It is rife in politics, academia and in the unions. I don't know how we'd even begin to tackle it in the wider population when it is tolerated and encouraged within our institutions.

I’m just going to assume you didn’t understand the post.

Wtf has that got to do with innocent Jewish people being shot to death on a beach in Australia? Look forward to your answer 🙄

There is a real issue with people conflating the actions of Israel (a state with a majority Jewish people) with all Jewish people worldwide. This is clearly absurd. Millions of Jewish people are not Israeli, have no family or connection to Israel, have never been there. Millions of Jewish people are outraged by the genocide in Gaza, and yet are subjected to anti semitism due to misplaced blame for Israel's actions.

Western governments should be shouldering blame for failing to intervene earlier when it was clear the response from Israel was disproportionate

Do you care about the Palestinians being murdered by Hamas or is it just Israel you have a problem with?

Treating it as a hate crime.

You know, the same way abuse against black people or Muslims would be treated.

Why aren’t Jewish people worthy of the same protection?

Because right now they absolutely don’t have it and anyone who disagrees is being deliberately obtuse.