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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 08:46

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Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 08:45

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:09

I’m guessing there’s more to it.

There isn’t more to it except that accusations of anti-semitism are an effective way of deflecting criticism. There isn’t more anti-semitism in Ireland than in other countries (and any is far too much I know!)…the reason we are singled out is our early and strong criticism of the bombings of civilians by Israel.

The Irish government came out very strongly against the Herzog park renaming proposal as did the majority of Irish people btw. If you can find evidence of government anti-semitism that’s fair enough, but please don’t guess!!

The previous ambassador to Ireland, Dana Erlich, was transferred to Spain in August and in October she accused the Spanish government of actively contributing to the rise of antisemitism. So Ireland is not the only country affected by these sorts of accusations.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:39

HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 08:36

There is. Senior members of the Irish Dail including the Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) opposed the change, calling it "divisive and wrong" and unrelated to Irish government policy on Gaza.

Good for them.

In these times it’s so important to have leaders with strong morals and a backbone.

(Looking at you, Keir Starmer)

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HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 08:36

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:09

I’m guessing there’s more to it.

There is. Senior members of the Irish Dail including the Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) opposed the change, calling it "divisive and wrong" and unrelated to Irish government policy on Gaza.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:15

Twiglets1 · 18/12/2025 08:13

There must be. It’s not as if Dublin is unusual in recognising a Palestinian state.

Exactly.

And the proposal to rename Herzog Park…there obviously is a very strong antisemitic undercurrent here.

It’s just silly to pretend otherwise.

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Twiglets1 · 18/12/2025 08:13

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:09

I’m guessing there’s more to it.

There must be. It’s not as if Dublin is unusual in recognising a Palestinian state.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:09

Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 08:03

Dublin’s recognition of a Palestinian state and support for South Africa’s genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for its actions in Gaza prompted the closure.

Criticism of Israeli government policies is not anti-semitism.

I’m guessing there’s more to it.

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Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 08:03

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 05:39

Ok, please enlighten me.

Dublin’s recognition of a Palestinian state and support for South Africa’s genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for its actions in Gaza prompted the closure.

Criticism of Israeli government policies is not anti-semitism.

Twiglets1 · 18/12/2025 08:00

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Luckily you do have a choice.

Whistonia · 18/12/2025 07:58

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Twiglets1 · 18/12/2025 07:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 22:52

Seriously, MNHQ. Why?

If you email them they will explain why.

Oops just seen the update - ignore.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 05:39

Therewillbeaway · 17/12/2025 23:47

That’s not why it closed.

Ok, please enlighten me.

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LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 05:38

MeouwKing · 17/12/2025 23:36

How the fuck are 20 per cent against tackling anti-Semitism?

It’s mind blowing isn’t it?

Utterly vile individuals.

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Therewillbeaway · 17/12/2025 23:47

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 21:20

I’m reading an article and it mentions that Israel closed its Embassy in Dublin last hear due to the Irish government’s antisemitic rhetoric.

I didn’t know that.

Shocked by it all.

That’s not why it closed.

MeouwKing · 17/12/2025 23:36

How the fuck are 20 per cent against tackling anti-Semitism?

HappyFace2025 · 17/12/2025 23:15

Whistonia · 17/12/2025 23:09

‘. A hole of my making’. I think rather you are making a mountain out of a molehill! Move on.

I don't need to 'move on'. I thought you had decided to stop posting on this thread 🤔
bye bye

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 23:15

Oh, ok. Sorry MNHQ. You deleted their reply. Thank you!

Whistonia · 17/12/2025 23:09

HappyFace2025 · 17/12/2025 18:10

It was more than one post, more or less staying the same thing. You are just digging yourself deeper into the hole of your own making. 'Get a life, indeed' Mumsnetters get posts deleted for such rudeness to other posters.

‘. A hole of my making’. I think rather you are making a mountain out of a molehill! Move on.

moderate · 17/12/2025 22:54

singmoon · 17/12/2025 20:37

Well, I feel I have nothing new to add so I think I'll stop posting. I abhor anti semitism. I abhor october 7th. I abhor the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I abhor having human rights protests against genocide cynically rebranded as anti semitism to defend Israeli war crimes, which is defintely happening. I have protested against many other human rights infringements by many states and actors over the decades. This is only one of many for me, not a sudden interest in this conflict only.

Describing Oct 7 using just the date, but describing the response to it as "genocide", is not a neutral act.

The standard to which Israel is held in responding to a heinous attack on its own soil by a group sworn to ethnically cleanse all Jews "from the river to the sea" (which would entail actual genocide, as opposed to the situation in Gaza; see below) is a standard to which no other nation is ever held.

Once you see the antisemitism in that double standard, you cannot unsee it.

To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?
MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 22:52

Seriously, MNHQ. Why?

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 22:51

Deleted? WTF MNHQ? Why?

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LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 21:36

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 21:34

Ireland being one of the petulant boycotts of the Eurovision is no surprise. Also talk of their 1994 winner handing the trophy back. How utterly cringe.

Pathetic.

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Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 21:34

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 21:20

I’m reading an article and it mentions that Israel closed its Embassy in Dublin last hear due to the Irish government’s antisemitic rhetoric.

I didn’t know that.

Shocked by it all.

Ireland being one of the petulant boycotts of the Eurovision is no surprise. Also talk of their 1994 winner handing the trophy back. How utterly cringe.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 21:20

HappyFace2025 · 17/12/2025 21:10

It was absolutely shocking to listen to.

I’m reading an article and it mentions that Israel closed its Embassy in Dublin last hear due to the Irish government’s antisemitic rhetoric.

I didn’t know that.

Shocked by it all.

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