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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 09:30

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:30

It is.

I’m sure I remember the username from previous threads.

Yes, you're right x

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:30

Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 09:27

Who gets to keep her MN account. Shocking.

It is.

I’m sure I remember the username from previous threads.

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Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 09:29

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@MNHQ Why are you allowing these posters to further disrespect and mock Jewish people?

Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 09:29

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:04

And I’m just trying to put myself in that ambassador’s shoes…moving from Ireland, where antisemitism is rife, to Spain. Where things aren’t much better.

What must that feel like, constantly being faced with the fact that your community and its people are hated?

So much for ‘Never Again’.

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The vast majority of Irish people are not anti-semitic and do not hate the Jewish community!! Why would they?
You are spreading misinformation.

Critical of Israel’s bombing of Gazan civilians, yes, but that is a separate issue. Well, it should be, but it seems that people strategically deflect this criticism with accusations of anti-semitism.

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Who gets to keep her MN account. Shocking.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:24

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Nah, I’m done being polite to people who don’t deserve it.

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HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 09:18

SumatraTa · 18/12/2025 09:07

This forum is heavily pro Israel already, so this post is so redundant

This thread IS NOT ABOUT ISRAEL. it is about antisemitism here and now. HTH

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LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:15

SumatraTa · 18/12/2025 09:07

This forum is heavily pro Israel already, so this post is so redundant

Why are you even posting?

You have nothing to add to the debate.

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Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 09:14

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:57

Nobody is saying Ireland is the only country.

That doesn’t make it any better though, does it?

PP did imply that Ireland alone was facing criticism from the Israeli government.
I was responding to that.

Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 09:11

SumatraTa · 18/12/2025 09:07

This forum is heavily pro Israel already, so this post is so redundant

Shame antisemitism isn't redundant, isn't it?

Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 09:08

HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 08:56

'The Irish government came out very strongly against the Herzog park renaming proposal' Exactly what I just posted in answer to @LucyWestenra

I can't speak for the rest of Ireland but I can state that DDs best friend* (an Irish writer of international success) messaged her using the word genocide in relation to Gaza two days after 7 October. This is a young woman who is intelligent and knowledgable. If she had drunk the Hamas Koolaid so early on I can well imagine a lot of the Irish population (many of whom may have never met a Jewish person IRL) would be the same, with no empathy at all for what Israelis put up (rockets, bombs on buses, etc) with on a daily basis.

*no longer friends obv.

I don’t know about your daughter’s ex friend and I’m very sorry your daughter had to put up with that, but just to clarify that Ireland as a country absolutely does not support Hamas in any way and were absolutely horrified by the actions of Oct 7th. And by the attack at Bondi beach recently too.

SumatraTa · 18/12/2025 09:07

This forum is heavily pro Israel already, so this post is so redundant

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:04

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:57

Nobody is saying Ireland is the only country.

That doesn’t make it any better though, does it?

And I’m just trying to put myself in that ambassador’s shoes…moving from Ireland, where antisemitism is rife, to Spain. Where things aren’t much better.

What must that feel like, constantly being faced with the fact that your community and its people are hated?

So much for ‘Never Again’.

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LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 09:00

HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 08:56

'The Irish government came out very strongly against the Herzog park renaming proposal' Exactly what I just posted in answer to @LucyWestenra

I can't speak for the rest of Ireland but I can state that DDs best friend* (an Irish writer of international success) messaged her using the word genocide in relation to Gaza two days after 7 October. This is a young woman who is intelligent and knowledgable. If she had drunk the Hamas Koolaid so early on I can well imagine a lot of the Irish population (many of whom may have never met a Jewish person IRL) would be the same, with no empathy at all for what Israelis put up (rockets, bombs on buses, etc) with on a daily basis.

*no longer friends obv.

Awful.

What is it with all these people? It’s almost cult like.

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LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:59

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💐

Imagine being so full of hate. While feeling self-righteous at the same time.

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LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:57

Therewillbeaway · 18/12/2025 08:45

There isn’t more to it except that accusations of anti-semitism are an effective way of deflecting criticism. There isn’t more anti-semitism in Ireland than in other countries (and any is far too much I know!)…the reason we are singled out is our early and strong criticism of the bombings of civilians by Israel.

The Irish government came out very strongly against the Herzog park renaming proposal as did the majority of Irish people btw. If you can find evidence of government anti-semitism that’s fair enough, but please don’t guess!!

The previous ambassador to Ireland, Dana Erlich, was transferred to Spain in August and in October she accused the Spanish government of actively contributing to the rise of antisemitism. So Ireland is not the only country affected by these sorts of accusations.

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Nobody is saying Ireland is the only country.

That doesn’t make it any better though, does it?

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HappyFace2025 · 18/12/2025 08:56

'The Irish government came out very strongly against the Herzog park renaming proposal' Exactly what I just posted in answer to @LucyWestenra

I can't speak for the rest of Ireland but I can state that DDs best friend* (an Irish writer of international success) messaged her using the word genocide in relation to Gaza two days after 7 October. This is a young woman who is intelligent and knowledgable. If she had drunk the Hamas Koolaid so early on I can well imagine a lot of the Irish population (many of whom may have never met a Jewish person IRL) would be the same, with no empathy at all for what Israelis put up (rockets, bombs on buses, etc) with on a daily basis.

*no longer friends obv.

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:51

Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 08:48

Notice the familiar fascist pattern. Everything is about boycotting and cancelling things. Who are the real fascists?

Indeed.

It’s chilling.

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Kingscallops · 18/12/2025 08:48

LucyWestenra · 18/12/2025 08:15

Exactly.

And the proposal to rename Herzog Park…there obviously is a very strong antisemitic undercurrent here.

It’s just silly to pretend otherwise.

Notice the familiar fascist pattern. Everything is about boycotting and cancelling things. Who are the real fascists?

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