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To not want SC to move in?

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Phylllis · 14/12/2025 19:48

This is uncomfortable to write but I’ll put everything down so I don’t drip feed.

I’ve been with DP for 12 years, meeting his SC when they were 2, 4 and 5; they’re now 14, 16 and 17. We have our own kids aged 7 and 5 (their mum also has a 10yo). We’ve always had them every other weekend and half the holidays. Their mum lives 1.5hrs away.

Relations with their mum have always been polite on the surface but difficult underneath. She’s never encouraged SC to apply themselves, to do homework, to stick to any hobbies or to work hard. They’d arrive with nits for months on end and not touch a book between fortnightly visits. I’d hear rumours of her badmouthing me through mutual friends. The children consistently did very badly at school. Nonetheless DP (and the schools, the SEN leads, CAFCASS and social services) never thought it bad enough to move them to us.

I’ve always said the children would always be welcome to move into ours. They’ve never wanted to.

In the past year, they’ve all repeatedly said they’re expecting to move in with us when they’re 18. They have bedrooms here and their mum is apparently planning to downsize and has told them that it’s fair that they live with their dad at that point as she’s had them until 18. The older two are in college, but barely attend, having failed all but 1/2 GCSEs, and the younger is on track for the same. The older two are exceptionally messy. They’re fundamentally nice kids but wilfully uninformed and screen-addicted, and can be entitled and demanding (as I’m sure all teenagers can be).

The thing is, I don’t want to be responsible for housing three lazy adults with zero work ethic indefinitely. Life is expensive and busy, and I don’t think it’s fair that their mum’s unilaterally decided this without discussing it. I’ve raised it to DP and he thinks it’s not ideal but that we have no other option. I don’t want it.

AIBU?

OP posts:
RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 17:54

Yes in my case all three us of did. It is possible but our mother had a strong work ethic which was instilled into us. We also accepted advice and help we received.

I dare say that the children in this case have been subject to lots of in school support which has not been supported within their home life.

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 17:48

RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 17:45

The children would also have lots of guidance from school as well. Attendance would have been chased. They were only with op and dad one weekend a fortnight so what was happening in the home on the other days.

There are plenty of children who have come up through rubbish home lives and made their way in life. I know because I am one - rubbish dad fucked off when I was child and paid bugger all in child maintenance for his three kids.

Yes there are many kids that do well despite their upbringing and I am pleased that you managed it too - but what are the odds on all 3 dc managing it? It’s possible sure, but not likely. I really hope the 14 year old, at least, has good teachers around them. That can make the difference.

RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 17:47

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 17:41

They weren’t discussing travelling they were suggesting moving abroad.

But why is moving abroad a problem?

RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 17:45

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 17:36

No, it’s the dad’s problem to solve. But after 17years he is still not willing to do any actual parenting. When he told his oldest about the conditions on her moving in did he say it with love? With warmth? Did he tell her he would like her to move in but there had to be boundaries in place? Or did he just follow what the op wants (not knocking you for that op)

Also, these are the ops dc siblings - they will grow up seeing how their older siblings were treated.

The children would also have lots of guidance from school as well. Attendance would have been chased. They were only with op and dad one weekend a fortnight so what was happening in the home on the other days.

There are plenty of children who have come up through rubbish home lives and made their way in life. I know because I am one - rubbish dad fucked off when I was child and paid bugger all in child maintenance for his three kids.

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 17:41

WhistPie · 16/12/2025 17:32

Why on earth would anyone plan their lives around the possibility of grandchildren? Oh, no, we can't go travelling because we might have grandchildren one day!

FFS

They weren’t discussing travelling they were suggesting moving abroad.

RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 17:38

Coalday · 16/12/2025 17:08

Those children have been hugely let down by both their parents.
They have zero education nor skills, nor likely to have.
What exactly is their future going to be?
Benefits?
He has really failed them.
Do not allow his failures taint your childrens lives.

But as you said their mother has equally let them down.

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 17:36

InterIgnis · 16/12/2025 17:24

Because they don’t, that’s the bottom line.

Having empathy for the kids doesn’t mean that you consider this OP’s problem to solve .

No, it’s the dad’s problem to solve. But after 17years he is still not willing to do any actual parenting. When he told his oldest about the conditions on her moving in did he say it with love? With warmth? Did he tell her he would like her to move in but there had to be boundaries in place? Or did he just follow what the op wants (not knocking you for that op)

Also, these are the ops dc siblings - they will grow up seeing how their older siblings were treated.

WhistPie · 16/12/2025 17:32

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 16:49

You’re not anticipating grandchildren then ? Or are you planning to be one of those parents?
Considering he’s got a lot of making up to do the least you can do is support them when they have their own families to be honest.

Why on earth would anyone plan their lives around the possibility of grandchildren? Oh, no, we can't go travelling because we might have grandchildren one day!

FFS

InterIgnis · 16/12/2025 17:24

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 16:51

I just can’t believe how many posters on here are saying the parents don’t have to house them after 18. I mean really?

Even if the dc agreed to all conditions in order to move in with their dad after their mum has kicked them out doesn’t change the fact the op still doesn’t want them there.

I don’t know where the step dad is in all of this but 3 possibly 4 parents/step parents and not 1 wants to help put these kids on the right path instead they are all thinking just about money. It is so sad to hear, and all the posters saying they agree with op clearly have no empathy for kids who have been failed massively by all the adults in their lives. No wonder they act up.

Because they don’t, that’s the bottom line.

Having empathy for the kids doesn’t mean that you consider this OP’s problem to solve .

Coalday · 16/12/2025 17:08

Those children have been hugely let down by both their parents.
They have zero education nor skills, nor likely to have.
What exactly is their future going to be?
Benefits?
He has really failed them.
Do not allow his failures taint your childrens lives.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/12/2025 17:03

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 15:14

Yes, I think so, in the short term. I don’t think SD1 will want to move here now her bubble’s been burst, to be honest, so she’s going to need to weigh up her options with her mum.

In the longer term, DP and I need to have a proper discussion about it. Ultimately I’m not looking to live with or be financially responsible for SC indefinitely, and I don’t know what that means.

"Ultimately I’m not looking to live with or be financially responsible for SC indefinitely, and I don’t know what that means."

You need to know 'what that means' before you have any discussion with DP. You need to decide what you will be willing to do/not do, otherwise you're susceptible to being talked round to what he thinks you should do. Or simply agreeing with what he says since you don't have a 'better idea'. You'll also need to decide and state what you expect from him as far as being the 'primary caretaker' to his DC. Caretaker as in making them obey the rules, cleaning up after them, etc etc. And you need to decide if you'll 'go nuclear' (leave) if he disagrees or doesn't carry through. Hint: he won't.

As far as your work schedule, I'd be tempted to tell him that if you DO leave you'll expect him to have the DC 'per usual' if you have to travel or work a long day, just as he does now.

I think what he said to DD1 about what was expected if she moved in was really good, but he didn't discuss the consequences of not toeing the line. As in what would happen if she agrees to these stipulations, moves, and then says "Nah, not happening" as I suspect that her mother will 'encourage' her to do.

Holluschickie · 16/12/2025 16:54

Tip: the way to get them to leave is to not allow partners in your home.😉

RetirementTimes · 16/12/2025 16:52

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 15:14

Yes, I think so, in the short term. I don’t think SD1 will want to move here now her bubble’s been burst, to be honest, so she’s going to need to weigh up her options with her mum.

In the longer term, DP and I need to have a proper discussion about it. Ultimately I’m not looking to live with or be financially responsible for SC indefinitely, and I don’t know what that means.

But it is good that a line is drawn in the sand about expectations. So well done, just keep going on like a broken record about it.

One of the neighbours has a young adult at home who just seems to be drifting. The neighbours (parents) have no idea what they did wrong as they both have a strong work ethic but he is in and out of low skilled jobs even though he has a university History degree. As dad neighbour said the issue is that his life at home with mum and dad is just way to comfortable and everything is paid for. They are struggling to get their 28 year old to leave.

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 16:51

Balletpoint · 16/12/2025 16:39

I agree if they were 16 but they will be 18. Legally an adult with a adult privileges. Make it clear to them at 16 what the siituation is. Offer guidance and support and be someone who they can talk to.

I just can’t believe how many posters on here are saying the parents don’t have to house them after 18. I mean really?

Even if the dc agreed to all conditions in order to move in with their dad after their mum has kicked them out doesn’t change the fact the op still doesn’t want them there.

I don’t know where the step dad is in all of this but 3 possibly 4 parents/step parents and not 1 wants to help put these kids on the right path instead they are all thinking just about money. It is so sad to hear, and all the posters saying they agree with op clearly have no empathy for kids who have been failed massively by all the adults in their lives. No wonder they act up.

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 16:50

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kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 16:49

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 16:43

He’d be a despicable person to move countries when his older DC were 30, 32 and 34…?

You’re not anticipating grandchildren then ? Or are you planning to be one of those parents?
Considering he’s got a lot of making up to do the least you can do is support them when they have their own families to be honest.

Holluschickie · 16/12/2025 16:46

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 16:43

He’d be a despicable person to move countries when his older DC were 30, 32 and 34…?

He absolutely would not, but something tells me this is unlikely to happen.

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 16:43

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 16:06

precisely, living in La La Land.
He would be an absolutely despicable person if he buggered off and left his older three. Surely you wouldn’t want that? If he can do it to them, he can do it to yours ?

He’d be a despicable person to move countries when his older DC were 30, 32 and 34…?

OP posts:
Balletpoint · 16/12/2025 16:39

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 16:34

So if their mum kicks them out, their dad and step mum don’t want them to move in what are these 18yr olds supposed to do? And think how it will affect them and their future? The parents have already failed them massively in childhood and now they are going to fail them in young adulthood too. I find it so so sad.

I agree if they were 16 but they will be 18. Legally an adult with a adult privileges. Make it clear to them at 16 what the siituation is. Offer guidance and support and be someone who they can talk to.

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 16:34

Balletpoint · 16/12/2025 16:26

In the past year, they’ve all repeatedly said they’re expecting to move in with us when they’re 18.

If this is not happening until they are 18 you have no moral or legal obligation to house them. They will be adults and responsible for their own housing.

Keep the relationship friendly and amicable. Let them know you are available for guidance and happy for them to visit for Sunday lunch etc.

So if their mum kicks them out, their dad and step mum don’t want them to move in what are these 18yr olds supposed to do? And think how it will affect them and their future? The parents have already failed them massively in childhood and now they are going to fail them in young adulthood too. I find it so so sad.

IAmKerplunk · 16/12/2025 16:33

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 16:04

Awww, poor little thing 🙁
can’t have much of a life, but then I suppose that is what happens when you have multiple children

😂

InMyOodie · 16/12/2025 16:32

It almost seems like you didn't think through the consequences of having children with a man who already had 3. It sounds like you thought they wouldn't impact your home at all.

Balletpoint · 16/12/2025 16:26

In the past year, they’ve all repeatedly said they’re expecting to move in with us when they’re 18.

If this is not happening until they are 18 you have no moral or legal obligation to house them. They will be adults and responsible for their own housing.

Keep the relationship friendly and amicable. Let them know you are available for guidance and happy for them to visit for Sunday lunch etc.

RedToothBrush · 16/12/2025 16:18

I do not have Netflix.

RedToothBrush · 16/12/2025 16:16

Phylllis · 16/12/2025 13:32

The £150 each pays for all their clothes and toiletries at both houses, phone bills, subscriptions and things like Netflix at their mum’s, local travel at their mum’s, any trips out at their mum’s.

Like I said before, I do think because he pays so much, their mum gets away with paying basically nothing for them, and spins a narrative that dad will pay for everything. But the flip side is, if he doesn’t pay, they were going without. I used to get sick of checking their bags to see if they’ve hidden away toiletries and clothes; at least now they’re teens he just gives them the money and they manage what they need in both homes.

Why do they NEED Netflix?

Netflix is a reason for them to bunk off rather than being in school...