AIBU to think puberty blocker trial is child abuse?

Even if there were ‘favourable outcomes’ I would still be against it; because the concept of ‘transgender’ is harmful to wider society, so there’s no point saying you can have puberty blockers as a child and begin the journey only to not be what you identify as as an adult.

Either we accept people can identify as the opposite sex, or we don’t. If we don’t then there’s no point in experimental treatments.

Thank you for sharing.

I hope for the research on children, using them as guinea pigs is never started. Pausing is good but not using children in this abusive way is even better.

Thank you for sharing this story.

Who will benefit from this? It certainly won't be the children.

Well, quite. There's an awful lot of wanting to make a caste of permanent boy-men ...

Could everyone who found puberty exhilaratingly wonderful please step forward? No one, no one ever enjoyed it.

They won't go through any puberty at all. They grow older, and they will reach the age of consent; but they don't actually grow up. They remain children in a mutilated body.

Who will benefit from this? It certainly won't be the children.

Ah. Just googled her.

"Susie Green (born 1957) is the former chief executive officer of Mermaids, a British advocacy organisation for gender variant and transgender youth. She was dismissed on 25 November 2022 after six years of service because the trustees had lost confidence in her ability to lead the organisation.

Green lives in Yorkshire. She has four adult children, including twins, with her husband Tim. In 2017, Green presented a Ted Talk discussing the journey to get gender-affirming surgery for her eldest child at age 16 in Thailand. Green met members of the British royal family at an event to acknowledge the contribution of those working in the mental health sector in the UK."

• Transition: With her mother's support, Jackie began receiving puberty blockers at 14 in Boston and underwent gender affirmation surgery in Thailand at 16, becoming one of the youngest people in the world to have the operation.

So rather than experiment on new children, why don't they assess the outcomes of all children that already took puberty blockers? Sorry if anyone feels that's a stupid question. It isn't stupid to me.

No, until recently I would have said she was more likely to end up in the House of Lords than in the dock. Fortunately she made a number of mis-steps at Mermaids when she was running it (data breach, Trustee appointed without checking his social media and he turned out to have some extremely dodgy views about children and sexuality, staff unrest about the way the place was run) and she left. She worked for Helen Webberley for a very short time but something went wrong there. Last heard of bewailing the puberty blocker ban and talking about ways it could be circumvented. Busted flush, I hope.

How sad for him. Has his mother been prosecuted?

Glad it's increasing. Harm to children needs calling out and prevention.

It will be interesting to see which MPs take part in the debate.

Well, this is by far the most active petition at the moment, with hundreds of signatures added every hour. 50,000 signatures so far, in only two days! If it keeps going like this, then at 100,000 signatures this petition will force a parliamentary debate.

I've just signed, and the Gov.uk website notes that there are now over 109,000 signatures. So there will be a Parliamentary debate. Let's hope it's not perfunctory.

Surely, if all this kids given puberty blockers by the Tavistock are happy, healthy and living their best lives because of them, they would have heard about this trial and come forward to offer up their experiences in order to help?

If I had found something that worked wonders for me and I thought could help others, I’d be wanting to spread the word. I wonder why these kids don’t?

That happened to the son of Susie Green of Mermaids charity and there’s an infamous video of her laughing about it.

I would urge everyone to read this article by David Bell on WPATH and puberty blockers, he was the former staff governor of the Tavistock. This trial must be stopped. There’s also a mounting body of evidence from detransitioners that they were victims of medical malpractice. There are court cases coming. We’ve also had brave Kiera Bell, people must listen to her before more children are harmed. Just because a child begs for puberty blockers doesn’t mean they should be given them.
Kids have been told by adults and groups like Stonewall and Mermaids that these drugs are lifesaving. Of course they will beg for them!
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-primrose-wpath/

What about the boys who get PBs and end up as men with micropenises as they never develop? They also can’t get a neovagina made as this requires an actual normal penis. It’s bloody horrific.

How can blocking a natural process that induces human youth to mature into adulthood be beneficial to children? I can think of some others that would benefit of young adults that have not matured bodies or brains, though.

Puberty isn’t a disease. It is a universal, time limited developmental process that most young people find uncomfortable, confusing, and distressing at different points. It doesn’t automatically mean it is a medical disorder requiring pharmaceutical suppression, it’s not in any way the same as giving puberty blockers for a very short and carefully monitored time to children who are experiencing a precocious puberty where the risks of starting periods early for example outweigh the risks of taking the blockers.

Calling ordinary pubertal distress “Dysphoria” poses a lot of ethical questions. It’s outrageous that it’s now suddenly seen as something that is dangerous to normal healthy kids.

Medicine is supposed to treat disease, not pre-emptively blocking healthy development because someone feels bad during it. Otherwise we’d be suppressing puberty in a very large proportion of teenagers.

Children as young as eight years old cannot consent to treatments that may permanently affect sexual function, fertility, bone density, and neurodevelopment. Even WPATH in America whose shonky ideas all this has been influenced by have said that kids cannot give consent.

If Streeting and the Gov were pushing ahead with doing a trial of starvation pills for anorexic children they would be facing court proceedings and professional consequences now.

People who find children's physical bodies sexually attractive, but who would prefer them to be over the legal age of consent to avoid any unpleasantness. There's a word for these people...its on the tip of my tongue...

In whose interests would it be to keep children stunted in their development I wonder …🥧perhaps ?

So you are an adult human female then who considering getting pregnant, which only women can do …

Close to 86000 now.
It’s unthinkable that people ever thought putting healthy children on puberty blockers was a way to treat “gender distress” caused by social stereotypes. This trial will affect children as young as 8.

What has happened to people’s common sense?