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Another2356 · 13/12/2025 18:19

I lived in the USA for 8 yrs and all my neighbours had guns, as a Brit I totally disagreed with this…. However since returning to the UK over the last 10 years, I’ve started to think they have a point. If UK law changes and I can purchase guns to protect myself and my family, I will absolutely do this. I feel I have the right to protect myself as the police are not available.

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Elbowpatch · 14/12/2025 09:20

XenoBitch · 13/12/2025 23:58

I would not feel safe knowing people were carrying handguns. I am certain I am not alone in feeling that.
There is no reason for your everyday person to need to carry a handgun. Sorry, but "for defence" does not wash with me. You are carrying a weapon that can kill, and likely injure you too if you don't have proper training.

Even with proper training, accidents happen.

More soldiers were injured or killed by their own pistols in WW2 than enemy soldiers.

OhDear111 · 14/12/2025 09:19

Now Bondai beach! The Australians have a nutter too - attack on Jewish festival. On top of Brown university - an Ivy League university in Rhode Island. It’s very rare in Aus as they have gun laws. Much less rare in USA. They believe carrying guns saves lives. This is how the gun lobby sees carrying guns which is madness.

TheGrimSmile · 14/12/2025 09:16

Also, is this one of Farage's stooges trying to test the waters? Doesn't toad face want to legalise hand guns?

Ginmonkeyagain · 14/12/2025 09:15

I remember years ago I worked at a major tourist attraction. We had a spot of bother with a drunk who took exception to having to pay and threw a bin at security and got a bit fighty. The police were called and they dealt with him.

A baffled Amercia tourist asked why the police didn't draw their guns but instead physically subdued him. I explained police here aren't routinely armed, because generally criminals (or indeed anyone) ren't armed and vice versa. I then explained the concept of armed police and they found the fact we have special unit of armed police that only get called out when needed the funniest concept they had ever heard of.

TheGrimSmile · 14/12/2025 09:13

Yes and every other nutter in the UK will also want guns to protect themselves. So then everyone has guns, including all the nutters. Great. We'd all feel really safe. 🙄

Comtesse · 14/12/2025 09:13

UK law is never going to change. Quite right too.

AnteatersAreCute · 14/12/2025 09:13

Get off our message board @Another2356

We aren’t interested in hosting Trump’s minions here.

ACynicalDad · 14/12/2025 09:08

In the USA it was the right to bear a musket not a semi automatic assault rifle or whatever they can have todayrifle. I’d live to see the supreme court limit it to whatever was available when the law was passed. If they did and could actually enforce gun crime would disappear so quickly.

x2boys · 14/12/2025 09:05

StandFirm · 14/12/2025 08:57

There's just been another shooting (not sure how many victims right now) at a US campus. I think guns must be regulated, not necessarily completely banned because that's not realistic, but properly regulated. How many mass shootings is that going to take?

I dint think it will ever change in America sadly, they seem to just accept it
I was watching a Netflix documentary last week called empty rooms ( I think) about all the empty bedrooms of the children killed in school shootings ,it was heartbreaking.

Letsbe · 14/12/2025 09:02

Agree 100 % . Then we can start having those drills in schools where the kids have to hide as someone stalks the classrooms.

StandFirm · 14/12/2025 08:57

There's just been another shooting (not sure how many victims right now) at a US campus. I think guns must be regulated, not necessarily completely banned because that's not realistic, but properly regulated. How many mass shootings is that going to take?

OneLilacHare · 14/12/2025 08:40

Deaths by murder per 100,000 people in the UK is 1.4. Death by car accident per 100,000 is 2.4.

The UK is pretty safe it is just the media focus makes people scared.

Before people start screaming about our road safety record it is one of the safer countries to drive in.

HerVagestyTheQueef · 14/12/2025 08:34

Yes, OP, I'd also feel much safer with a 4x higher murder rate, 3 x per week school shootings, gun violence becoming the leading cause of death of children, and the knowledge that my crazy angry neighbour who doesn't like how I park (on my own drive) could carry a gun.
Idiot.

HoskinsChoice · 14/12/2025 08:32

🎣 10/10 but, seriously OP, get a life. You wrote this on a Saturday night, do you really have nothing better to do than trolling social media?

TidyCrow · 14/12/2025 01:21

Tracey5775 · 13/12/2025 23:54

Yes I was replying to the poster that said that criminals would have access to firearms. It doesn’t work like that to be honest.

Edited

Felons aren't allowed to buy them in the US but, with so many in circulation, they can easily acquire them.

If you think introducing a law that says "criminals can't have guns" means they wont get guns then, presumably, you think murders and other violence don't happen because we have laws against those.

pforpig · 14/12/2025 01:05

Wow did you not see the college shooting?

BMW6 · 14/12/2025 01:00

Tracey5775 · 14/12/2025 00:12

Well why do they not just do that now? What has this post got to do with what you’re saying? Firearms laws are what they are, criminals are too so it’s irrelevant what the laws are to be honest.

Because there are very few guns being passed around in the criminal fraternity currently.

If the general public were able to get hand guns legally then there would be vast numbers of guns knocking around - just as in USA.

The more guns there are the more crimes involving guns. More deaths. Obviously.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 14/12/2025 00:51

If you’re a normal person, not a criminal or gang member, the person your gun is most likely to kill is a member of your family. I read that with statistics many years ago.

BlackCatDiscoClub · 14/12/2025 00:40

Making guns available doesn't protect you, it means lots more people who shouldn't have guns will have guns. That puts your family at greater risk.

Tracey5775 · 14/12/2025 00:12

BMW6 · 13/12/2025 23:58

Yes of course criminals will recognise that they aren't allowed to have them and will obey that restriction............they won't steal them from gun stores or homes, they won't get people without a criminal record to get a gun for them......

I repeat 🙄

Well why do they not just do that now? What has this post got to do with what you’re saying? Firearms laws are what they are, criminals are too so it’s irrelevant what the laws are to be honest.

PerkingFaintly · 14/12/2025 00:01

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 13/12/2025 21:05

Lol, then there was nothing to say in the first place, was there? You saw an opinion that got up your nose and you felt compelled to dunk on it.

An armed society, where everyone is carrying a firearm, is a polite society because everyone knows they'll get shot up if they try anything stupid.

You agree that a car is unassuming, a tool and a great way to get around independently, yet it can also be turned into a deadly weapon when misused/abused, yes?

Right-o. Settled. Have a nice evening.

Which country do you live in, please, @YorkshireGoldDrinker ?

So we can know whether you have personal experience of this "polite society" or whether it's just in your imagination?
(edited for SPAG)

XenoBitch · 13/12/2025 23:58

BMW6 · 13/12/2025 23:54

Laughable. If hundreds of thousands of people apply to have, and get, handguns to carry about their person for protection you don't think bad people will get hold of them??? 🙄

I would not feel safe knowing people were carrying handguns. I am certain I am not alone in feeling that.
There is no reason for your everyday person to need to carry a handgun. Sorry, but "for defence" does not wash with me. You are carrying a weapon that can kill, and likely injure you too if you don't have proper training.

NotTerfNorCis · 13/12/2025 23:58

Minutes after this thread was created, another mass shooting situation unfolded, this one at Brown University. Thank God British schools and universities are safe from this kind of thing... with the very rare exception.

BMW6 · 13/12/2025 23:58

Tracey5775 · 13/12/2025 23:54

Yes I was replying to the poster that said that criminals would have access to firearms. It doesn’t work like that to be honest.

Edited

Yes of course criminals will recognise that they aren't allowed to have them and will obey that restriction............they won't steal them from gun stores or homes, they won't get people without a criminal record to get a gun for them......

I repeat 🙄

Lookingforthejoy · 13/12/2025 23:56

Poms · 13/12/2025 18:20

Protect you from what exactly?

The people who are now also allowed guns in OP’s new world order.