To ask do you think people always look their best when a healthy weight

Oh, I've not seen a pic of her in a few years. I meant in her prime. She was voluptuous but not fat.

I can usually tell if someone is underweight, a healthy weight, a bit overweight, or properly overweight or obese. I don’t sit and guess bmi, who would, but sure I can tell if someone is a bit chubby or not.

Massive difference.

No one guesses peoples BMI surely (pretty much impossible), I couldn't give a shit what someones BMI is but I very much doubt 2 stone on someone short doesnt notice. IMO someone who is a healthy weight generally looks better. Mostly those people will be within a healthy BMI but there are of course outliers.

Doesn't mean it looks awful or they look like a Michelin man if heavier, it just means its different than they looked before, like if my friend who was brunette dyed her hair blonde, it may not look bad but I'd notice it was a change.

But they could be overweight in the first place. People don’t go around identifying BMI 26s, they’re none the wiser. I know you’ll say it’s not possible to be 4ft11 and 9.5stone without looking like a Michelin man but trust me, they don’t and normal people with healthy attitudes to weight don’t go around guesstimating their mates BMIs

Only if you are on either extreme if the healthy BMI range so not easy at all. 2stone on someone who is 4ft 11 is loads whatever way you look at.

The other reason people dont notice is because it generally is a gradual loss, if you saw a before and after photo it would be very noticeable.

By the way I just checked and the difference between an underweight BMI (18) (6.5 stone) and overweight (25) (9stone) on a 4ft 11 white woman is 2.5 stone.

so perfectly easy to lose 2 stone and be healthy either side.

I didn’t notice.

dont forget, even the closest people to you aren’t necessarily parading around in swimming costumes or gym wear. My BF wears baggy dresses every day, that’s her style. Walking around shops, sitting at tables etc… it’s not like they’re standing demanding you body check them.

It depends on age. At some point you reach the ‘face or body’ dilemma, where losing weight makes you look haggard in the face.

2 stone on someone who is 4f11 is a massive difference. I genuinely dont believe many people wouldn't notice that unless that person was very overweight to begin, for someone who is very obese then it can take more than that for people to notice. 2 stone on a normal weight 4ft 11 person would put them well into overweight category or into very underweight. I'm 5ft 4 and it would for me even. The only reason people may not notice as much is that when I was 20lb heavier I wore baggy clothes all the time so hid it a lot. If I had worn my normal stuff I woild have looked awful. I know people noticed on me, most polite enough not to say of course.

I think its actually an extremely healthy outlook when people dont notice, those who don't notice, IMO, tend to be the kindest, least judgmental people and also the happiest with how they look themselves. Most people do notice though even if they wouldnt say.

My BMI is always between 17 - 18 but that's just the size I am. I did live off chips, beer and hummus one summer and managed to put on 5 kg and it looked fab actually but then it just went back to normal again.

That is definitely not a healthy weight!

I have heard people say this before though, so I know what you mean.

Yeah.

Being a bit overweight looks fine though.

And some people carry extra weight better than others.

With a foul mouth.

It depends on other things. I lost 7 stones after losing my DH two years ago. My ideal weight.

So, yes, I’m back to the weight I was at 18, but older skin just don’t shrink back. 😳

I’ve got other problems with sag, droop and drop 😳

I had many years anorexic, and found that the compliments on my figure came in thickest and fastest when I was just about the weight when my periods would stop.

My healthy weight is not the fashionable weight.

I think you’re taking a simple comment and making me nail it to various situations, which wasn’t how it was intended.

i was actually thinking about the many people I’ve known like my best friend- who I see frequently- who lost 2 stone following her divorce and I didn’t even notice. She’s only 4ft11 and whilst she was bit rounder at 2 stone heavier it made no real difference to the way she looked.

i don’t want to get forced to nail examples to every possible type of person and outcome. I said most people 2/3 stone lighter or heavier doesn’t make them look significantly better or worse. I also said most people are completely unnoticeable anyway, in terms of how they “look” to others

But if you were towards top of BMI 24/25 then 3 stone over that would be obese.

My post isn’t talking about 3 stone under or over weight.

3 stone overweight is quite a lot, there is no way this wouldn't notice. 3 stone under a normal weight would be dangerous for most people. A BMI of around 21/22 for me is 9 stone, 2-3 stone under would be very underweight. 3 stone higher than a BMI of 25 for me would make me over BMI 32 which is obese, not a chance I would look better, in fact even BMI 25 looks chubby on my frame!

I think potentially elderly people maybe look slightly younger if their face is fuller but generally most people up to the age of 60 IMO look old when they are overweight. I sometimes find myself feeling shocked at someone's age when they are say 30ish but quite overweight, I think its like the bloated face and middle aged spread look that ages people.

I havent yet seen someone who was overweight that doesnt look better at a healthy weight (obv I am not talking about how toned they are/loose skin under clothes as obviously I cant see that). I think the same for very thin people, I know a couple of friends in their 40s and 50s and they are very think and look really lined. They are definitely underweight and it isnt a good look.

Well, some people manage to look cool and attractive and healthy while a bit underweight (young people, usually). But for most of us, yes, we look best at a healthy, 20-25 BMI sort of weight.

Yes, though size and shape vary. Similarly a lot of larger ladles look fabulous too.
I think it is harder for overweight men to look well as it sits around the waist.

Nobody (yes, nobody) looks as good fat as they do slim. This has always and will always been the case. All that’s changed recently is that it’s more acceptable to say it.

You come across slightly resentful and bitter. There is plenty of musicians I am not a fan of, but I can appreciate their ability. I think we all know Adele is not average in any way, and you bitterly writing it doesn’t make it so.