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To wonder if the Doctors strike will still go ahead next week?

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Netcurtainnelly · 12/12/2025 14:24

Does anyone know when it will be decided if the strike will be called off because of the flu next week?

What do you think about it?

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uhtredofbattenberg · 22/12/2025 20:27

SurferRona · 22/12/2025 19:58

I’m sick of this, it’s the height of selfish cynicism holding to ransom vulnerable scared patients and their families at the absolute worst time of year. And now rejecting an extremely reasonable package? Nah, I’ve had enough.

Streeting is weak. Government needs to legislate NOW to disallow these doctors from striking, as is the case for police.

I worry about being treated by such money grabbing and money concerned clinicians. How is that vocational? How do these yawning money maws square off what they are doing with the Hippocratic oath?

There are at least ten applicants for every undergrad post, so, so many bright young people desperate to be doctors who can’t get a place who would be better than this snarling hand-out awful lot, holding me and my family to ransom. And we pay over £200k to train these people?!!!! Get out - if £££ matters that much, go work for big 4, or magic circle, or other lucrative professions. Don’t go for something where people’s lives have to rely on you. It’s a vocation for a reason.

Absolutely, agree 100%

SurferRona · 22/12/2025 19:58

I’m sick of this, it’s the height of selfish cynicism holding to ransom vulnerable scared patients and their families at the absolute worst time of year. And now rejecting an extremely reasonable package? Nah, I’ve had enough.

Streeting is weak. Government needs to legislate NOW to disallow these doctors from striking, as is the case for police.

I worry about being treated by such money grabbing and money concerned clinicians. How is that vocational? How do these yawning money maws square off what they are doing with the Hippocratic oath?

There are at least ten applicants for every undergrad post, so, so many bright young people desperate to be doctors who can’t get a place who would be better than this snarling hand-out awful lot, holding me and my family to ransom. And we pay over £200k to train these people?!!!! Get out - if £££ matters that much, go work for big 4, or magic circle, or other lucrative professions. Don’t go for something where people’s lives have to rely on you. It’s a vocation for a reason.

Milmington · 22/12/2025 19:33

Surely MN traffic increases through the evening?

Milmington · 22/12/2025 19:32

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 19:20

Evening shift has arrived @PurpleFairyLights 😂

Some posters are presumably fairly busy through the day.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 19:24

Glad you both agree that many doctors who have CCT are unemployed (I did mention it earlier). Whilst waiting lists are 7 million and waits in A&E are 20+ hours. What a stupid waste.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 19:20

Evening shift has arrived @PurpleFairyLights 😂

Milmington · 22/12/2025 18:44

Exactly.

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 18:40

And I should add that getting a consultant post is likely to become even more competitive given Wes Streeting's stated aim of moving resources from hospitals into the community. With the promise of no increase in consultant numbers services like Obstetrics will almost certainly be run by up skilled midwives.

Milmington · 22/12/2025 18:33

And it isn't a matter of semantics mumsneedwine, it's a matter of substance. Which is why it's linguistically correct.

Milmington · 22/12/2025 18:25

Apologies, crossed. Peeling swedes.

Milmington · 22/12/2025 18:24

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:42

@Milmington semantics. Completing CCT should, and always has, led to being a consultant. No more training. After 10 years. Solicitors can and do go on roll without a job - know one currently in Aus who had her graduation thing before she left. Only takes 2 years and a few exams (which are not easy and deserve respect).

mumsneedwine have you any notion of just how few consultant posts are available at the moment in certain specialties?

Completing training in no way means you are a consultant. And if you never get an offer of a job you never will be a consultant.

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 18:18

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:42

@Milmington semantics. Completing CCT should, and always has, led to being a consultant. No more training. After 10 years. Solicitors can and do go on roll without a job - know one currently in Aus who had her graduation thing before she left. Only takes 2 years and a few exams (which are not easy and deserve respect).

Sorry, but all CCT has always led to is the ability to apply for a consultant job.Some will get one, some will not. You are fairly unique in not realising that senior doctors jobs are, and always have been, extremely competitive. Just because there is no more training DOES NOT mean that they automatically get the top jobs.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:49

@Milmington rules to be on solicitors role

To wonder if the Doctors strike will still go ahead next week?
mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:43

@Scotiasdarling the fact you call them junior doctors says a lot more about you than them. So out of touch.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:42

@Milmington semantics. Completing CCT should, and always has, led to being a consultant. No more training. After 10 years. Solicitors can and do go on roll without a job - know one currently in Aus who had her graduation thing before she left. Only takes 2 years and a few exams (which are not easy and deserve respect).

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 17:40

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:36

@Scotiasdarling wow you really don't like them do you ? So after 10 years post qualifying and loads of v hard professional exams you patronisingly call them junior. Really hope you are not a consultant (but if you are I bet you train PAs).

Nothing to do with liking. Until someone will give them a job as a consultant then that is what they are. A junior doctor. Not a consu!tant.

Milmington · 22/12/2025 17:38

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 16:44

CCT is a thing. What do you call someone who has done it ? Unemployed is quite common at the moment.

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But this is the same in an number of careers. It's exactly the same with law. You can't apply to go on the roll of solicitors unless you have an offer of employment as a solicitor. It's completely correct linguistically. Those who've done the training for a particular position are merely eligible to apply.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 17:36

@Scotiasdarling wow you really don't like them do you ? So after 10 years post qualifying and loads of v hard professional exams you patronisingly call them junior. Really hope you are not a consultant (but if you are I bet you train PAs).

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 17:15

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 16:44

CCT is a thing. What do you call someone who has done it ? Unemployed is quite common at the moment.

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A junior doctor.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 16:44

CCT is a thing. What do you call someone who has done it ? Unemployed is quite common at the moment.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 16:43

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 15:37

How interesting. And odd that you didn't know which kind of doctors are called Dr. or Mr. He must have been one or the other Or that people weren't consultants until that actually got a consultant job.

This makes no sense ?? He trained as a doctor, still is a doctor but goes by Mr (although he sometimes uses doctor as he's not a pretentious prat). He's semi retired now as we are old.

Scotiasdarling · 22/12/2025 15:37

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 14:16

Oh and when I was at school you could get into medicine with standard offer of BBC. Imperial that was (my ex from a long time ago who is now a v eminent cardiologist).

How interesting. And odd that you didn't know which kind of doctors are called Dr. or Mr. He must have been one or the other Or that people weren't consultants until that actually got a consultant job.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 14:19

A level grades are not the fault of the students. And majority of students I know have A/A stars even if contextual. What else do they need to achieve to be worthy ? UCAT is a cognitive test and if bright you'll do well, regardless of available cash. I hate it but Unis don't. I think they know best what will make a good doctor, it being their job.

mumsneedwine · 22/12/2025 14:16

Oh and when I was at school you could get into medicine with standard offer of BBC. Imperial that was (my ex from a long time ago who is now a v eminent cardiologist).