To wonder if the Doctors strike will still go ahead next week?

How irresponsible is the government that allowed 63% of applicants to UK Specialty Training to be International Medical Graduates leading to UK Medical Graduate unemployment. These doctors have 100k of debt and cost the taxpayers 250k to train. Meanwhile the NHS is on its knees.

Purple can you please stop giving fals information or twisting stats to feed your cause. 59% of training posts went to UK graduates so you saying that 63% of applicants were IMGS implies they took most of the jobs - when they did not.

There is zero evidence that there are 1000s of doctors unemployed in the country. They may not be in the training post that you consider or they consider is the only job of worth but they are employed learning training and providing service,

“You are not a doctor and have no idea of what they have to put up with without Streeting's disgusting behaviour. They don't trust him and the general public do not appreciate them.”

What vast generalisations? Who is “they’? Most doctors I know and I know a lot have a reasonable amount of suspicion for both the NHS and the BMA. And most people value their own doctor.
This political fight costing actual lives is what most people are against!

I doubt they care. They are so fed up.

This isn't going to make the general public appreciate them any more.

You are not a doctor and have no idea of what they have to put up with without Streeting's disgusting behaviour. They don't trust him and the general public do not appreciate them.

You could literally say this about anyone

Did those doctors take part in the vote?

The fabulous allied healthcare professionals who almost universally get paid significantly less than their resident doctor colleagues and whose shifts are at least equally arduous and who have the same issues in terms of jobs and career progression?

This is a terrible look for the resident doctors, however valid some of their concerns/ grievances are.

If this turns out badly, all that will happen is that doctors won’t be allowed to strike in the future, it will be like the police. Personally, I would not be willing to push that hard.

It is the truth

“It was not a pay rise it was pay restoration over a few years. This will bring them to 2008 levels of pay.”

You see that kind of semantics is what annoys people!
What next?
Will train drivers be back for more too?

I don't disagree with any of these issues, they all need to be addressed, but honestly, all this strike does is put people's backs up and make them less sympathetic to the BMA's cause, not more. They just look entitled and selfish.

I suggest that Wes streeting gets together with the unions or whoever to sort out the recruitment problem and soon! If it’s not just about money, this might help at least. It sounds as if he has kicked the can along and left it too late now.

It was not a pay rise it was pay restoration over a few years. This will bring them to 2008 levels of pay.

The BMA are blackmailing the Government and general public, however anyone tries to defend it. They already got a good pay rise. The recruitment issue needs sorting, but it is not worth killing people over.

195 other countries prioritise their own medical graduates. Are they racist? The UK did until January 2020. If our doctors want to work in Australia or Canada they are offered the leftover jobs that their medical graduates do not want. Are those countries racist or protecting their investment?

Is it too much to ask to have the chance to work in the country you were trained in? While accruing 100k in debt?

@PurpleFairyLights - it is a massive gamble and so close to the Covid enquiry. You know this will backfire massively if there is a death toll and heads will roll. So let’s hope for everyone’s sake it is not a massive bloodbath.

All the general public hears is flu pandemic and they already got a pay rise.
The technicality of recruitment is beyond the more average person.
And if doctors want to turn into flu deniers and potential racists, it just doesn’t work on a common sense level.

Patients are being looked after by consultant colleagues and fabulous allied healthcare professionals.

It is the BMA that is going to get the blame for countless flu deaths potentially, not the Government.

How irresponsible is the government for not monitoring the impact of dropping The Resident Labour Market Test in 2020?

How irresponsible is the government to allow a minister to promise UK Medical Graduate Prioritisation is April, June and July and do nothing?

How irresponsible is the government that allowed 63% of applicants to UK Specialty Training to be International Medical Graduates leading to UK Medical Graduate unemployment. These doctors have 100k of debt and cost the taxpayers 250k to train. Meanwhile the NHS is on its knees.

How irresponsible is the government to not increase the numbers of doctors per capita and increase number of beds?

I cannot believe how irresponsible this is!
I wonder how much public support they have for this action?

Where did Streeting get a ratio of 4:1? From ST4 stats?

Not surprised. His behaviour has annoyed the doctors even more.

Weaponising UK Medical Graduate Prioritisation while thousands of UK medical graduates are unemployed is outrageous. Meanwhile A&E is a war zone.

I intensely disliked Jeremy Hunt but Streeting takes the biscuit.