To be worried there will be a war in Europe

Hopefully so. Although it’s horrendous for young people in Ukraine facing the poor people sent from Russia in their mullions.

I was chatting to someone high up in intelligence services recently and he’s more concerned about the cybersecurity aspect than actual physical fighting. Obviously he didn’t disclose anything that’s highly sensitive.
We already know that Russia is targeting undersea Communications cables, they’re highly likely to be already interfering with IT infrastructure etc
God forbid Putin hits the Red button but, quite frankly, I wouldn’t put anything past him and there’s sweet fa that any of us can do to stop him,
Trump, China, Russia, India, all cronies one way or another and don’t forget North Korea.

We’re already at war. Chinese and Russian bots sow division and affect elections in European society. Qatar funds the minds of our youth at universities. Russia has invaded Ukraine again. When they invaded Crimea, Western Europe did nothing. And europe - just like it did prior to WWII continues to appease another dictator with a vision of strength for his own country.

Our army is great but small. Our youth are woefully inept and lack the values and moral fortitude to fight effectively for our way of life.

our enemies plan for decades and centuries at a time to build their nations’ power. Our leaders think in election cycles and their own power. We are in terminal decline with very little chance of reversing the trend.

I sound bleak about it because I am.

Quote the OP : "But the media seem to be hell bent on winding us up about it."

The media are just reporting what is said though. And I think if they were not reporting what the leaders were saying, they would be accused of downplaying what the leaders are saying.

It's a pedantic point I know. but I think an important one.

Not sure if there will be but for months now, we seem to have not so coded messages about the likelihood of war. Trump is trying to destabilise Europe to do Putin’s bidding. Doesn’t help that we have Putin’s stooge, Farage also doing his bidding here.

Logically how can Russia take on Europe when it can’t defeat one country, Ukraine. They have been at war 4 yrs so manpower and funds are depleted . Putin is all chest beating and rhetoric.

Wasn’t it Britain who did the US’s bidding in Europe to prevent any form of EU armed forces and coordinated response? Certainly our media were incredibly hostile.

One thing about Trump's lunacy is that European countries know they need sort out coordinating their defences. Outside of NATO they're a fragmented mess.

Is that why Putin invaded then? To stop the child traffickers? Like a Russian Q-Anon?
Child protector Vlad did initially say it was for de-Nazification. Maybe this is history writing attempt 2

Oh stop. Just stop.

What do you mean?

I think it is likely unfortunately. Doesn't help having an unhinged US president.

I doubt it will happen.
But i could not give a hoot if it did.
UK is fucked up and its going to take drcades for it, to get unfucked.
A with the generation we have now, and how soft, and unresilient most are, and have been raised and everyone getting offended over everything, we would be royally fucked.
Our army is crap.

I have had concerns for some time, but the newly published US National Security Strategy 2025 does lay bare that Europe, as a continent, appears to be entering into a era of extremely heightened security risks. Obama's warnings, along with Trump's during his first term, really should have been heeded. A massive investment in national security is - regrettably - vitally important.

Blimey OP, Trump is very much “our problem”. In fact, he is a colossal problem for all of us in Europe. As for the Ukraine situation, we should be worried about escalation. We are years in now, with an emboldened Putin who has the backing of the US president. We have decided to ignore this for several months but it’s fast reaching the point where that’s not an option anymore. These are unprecedented times, and not in a good way.

Wish I hadn’t opened this thread 😔

I know, it's a pain how it's going on and on. I'm not unduly worried truth be told. But I do check in with the news every so often and I am being more cautious with money too

Of course and responsible world leaders and nations should always prepare and risk plan for worst case scenarios. I’m glad we are prepared to go to war but it won’t happen. These are two very distinct things and OP don’t conflate the two as you seem to indicate that the media is doing.

I don't know. I live in scandinavia and these countries consider it to be a very real possiblity.

However, Putin has only made extremely slow progress with Ukraine. I am not sure how he would be able to fund, both finiancially and in terms of troops, wars im multiple countries. The USA is no longer an ally for europe, but would they actually fight for Russia?

I reckon it will be cyber, or god forbid nuclear, attacks rather than invading troops. But even cyber attacks could be horrific. No energy, money, water or food in the worst case.

He does change with the wind. But he always comes back to favouring Russia. It's hard to believe they haven't got something on him.

Also some politicians of the USA have apparently started to discuss leaving NATO. They only wanted to use it to make money anyway.

Don’t forget to blame France, Germany for talking the possibility of war up, and Poland, Finland and Sweden for being scared of the probable invasion forces they’re facing.

No good putting your head in the sand op. It’s coming. More barbarian invasions from the East, because men like to show off their big dicks. Britain is hopelessly unprepared because the rich wanted to concentrate all their power and turn the poorer of people back into slaves of empire. More big dicks.

i wish to all hell that I’d never had children for this disgusting species.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yq5zdv907o

Who knows. I know that senior figures (not Trump, I mean head of NATO etc) are warning of it so we should listen to them.

Sad fact is we can’t spend money on anything that isn’t benefits or the NHS without being screamed at that we ‘love war’ and ‘there’s always money for bombs’ so an appropriate rise in defence spending won’t happen

The silly fuckers seem to think nobody would ever target the UK, they’re so naive it’s quite shocking for grown adults