Fed up of hearing about the flu

That cannot be inferred frim that data point!

Your suggestion doesnt work the very young, old, pregnant or immunosuppressed. It doesnt csre about economic productiviy or keeping frontline healthcare running, and no good for anyone who is run down anyway and perhaps hosting over Christmas!

Sick of it! If I didn’t read the news I would happily go about my life without worrying about the flu. I did take the vaccine when I was pregnant but not otherwise and I’ve never had the flu. I think you can definitely avoid it by being hygienic and considerate; don’t go out amongst people if you’ve got a stinking cold/ flu for example! So many people do, I hate it.
I’m also sick of people not coughing and sneezing in their elbow as well as not washing and sanitising their hands frequently. It is disgusting and such an easy way of stopping spreading illness!

So much money was spent on temporary hospitals, converting conference centres. It was crazy that we didn't build permanent hospitals.
They have been going on about the next flu pandemic,,knowing it is overdue and knowing it will happen sooner or later

How can you believe that's true when you look at the history of vaccination and what it has achieved? Does nature knows best apply to treating illnesses too, and if not, what's the difference?

Nine days in, vaccinated so getting the 'mild' effects, adequately warm and dry house, food and meds available, healthy apart from mild asthma, and still feeling grim.

Interesting that they're comparing this strain to the 1968 Hong Kong flu, that I remember my dad talking about as being remarkably nasty.

You ve never had flu if you believe that tosh.

Unpleasant is a cold, flu, even for healthy people can be debilitating, with affects lasting several weeks.

Flu didn't disappear during CV, we just weren't mixing and the strains were weaker, people who had it stayed at home, so spread was far less, now business expect you to come into work whatever.

NHS is putting on loads of extra vaccine clinics.

https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/flu-vaccine/

If any non-tinfoil hat wearers have been put off getting a vaccine because of the “we’ve run out everywhere wah!” messaging, just to say I found a choice of 10 local pharmacies with a range of appointments tomorrow. Worth checking.

Allowing the natural immune system to work as designed is more powerful? You have to eat well and take vitamin C (oranges) and maybe a vitamin D tablet but nature knows best I think.

This year's flu is much, much worse than previous years. My healthy SIL and niece were seriously ill with it, and are still feeling the effects almost 2 months later.
It killed my father in 3 days.

I read inserts on my medication all the time
It says risk of anaphylactic reaction, cancer and parasitic infection
I choose to inject it every 4 weeks because it changes my life

@Needspaceforlego the irony that actually building more hospitals was somerhng Boris wanted to do until COVID came along

Tin foil hat? Don't understand.

It isn't a live vaccine so can't give you flu. Obviously you had a dangerous reaction but that's very rare. For most people, better to be vaccinated.

Its almost like they need to take the politicians out of the NHS and have long term management, with agreements on how many beds per head of population we actually need. As opposed to how many can we get away with.

I completely agree with this. The issue is the lack of capacity and long-term thinking about the NHS. I think there's a difference in messaging between "avoid this illness because you'll be really unwell/will make others really unwell" and "avoid this illness because the health service can't cope", and people are fed up of the second one. It seems like the NHS is never not overwhelmed or "on its knees", and I'm not keen on being emotionally blackmailed by this blame-filled messaging that it's our fault if we get sick and put further strain on it.

If you were any thicker you'd set.

I think the biggest issue is the NHS has zero slack.
Every year politicians shit themselves because they know they will get the blame if people start dying in waiting rooms etc.

But they also know fixing it can't be done over night. Building more hospitals and getting more trained staff, is a long term programme, that needs doing and funding, and will take 5-10 years to actually get an extra bed and the staff to go with it.

Meanwhile they know they gave a good chance of not being re-elected in 5 years so by the time its fixed they'll no longer be in the hot seat. Someone else's problem.

Its almost like they need to take the politicians out of the NHS and have long term management, with agreements on how many beds per head of population we actually need. As opposed to how many can we get away with.

Maybe because it's 24 quid and not that easy to access.

Poison? If the flu vaccine is poison, it isn't a very effective one given billions of people have had it over the years and come to no harm. Unlike flu.

It does seem to have gone quiet in the news now, probably because there is nothing they can do more regarding the strike. They probably wanted the doctors to call off the strike last week which didn't happen

i had the flu jab on 1st november
i nearly always get the jab
i have never had the flu
it is my understanding that they use base the vaccine on the previous year's virus and cannot be 100%

i think they are hyping it up rather due to the threat of the doctors strike but also that it has come earlier than usual and dont know how long it will last

Yanbu. They are scare mongering, like the media did with covid, when flu seemed to disappear....

For most healthy people flu is quite unpleasant but ok, I had it once and would prefer not to again. I dont have the jab and nor do my children, I'd rather have the illness once every twenty years tbh.

What part of the vaccine do you object to on the insert, out of interest?

How is the tin foil hat? Nice and snug?

12 to 14 days to work? The last flu jab I had 'worked' within hours. I had the worst case of the flu I have ever had in my long life, I was hospitalised for it. I still, suffer from the side effects that flu jab caused. That was the last jab I ever had,1983 was the year. I suggest you ask for the insert to the poison you all so willingly want to jab into yourselves. If people read an insert no one would EVER jab themselves again.