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PostKieron · 10/12/2025 16:05

I’ve just been thinking about things recently in the run up to Xmas - family life, family life when I was a kid etc .. just aspects of day to day life really.

Anyway - I was just thinking how in the 80s my mum had a really good family friend … we used to go and visit her house often - only a mile or so from ours - she used to make lovely coffee etc etc. I can remember in particular one lovely evening in June 1986 we spent in her house. Also my parents & I were invited to her daughter’s wedding in the summer of 1989 - it was lovely.

Anyway - I found out around a week ago that this lady has been dead over 25 years!! - since 2000 - and I never knew about it! She was my mums friend and my mum died in 1998 and I never saw this lady after that.

It’s just strange how our lives can dramatically change - this lovely wedding in the summer of 1989 - but within 11 years of that date BOTH my mum and this lady were dead … how it can go from this kindly lady giving me Easter Eggs etc as a kid to her being dead 25 years and me not knowing about it !

Anyone else feel their lives have changed dramatically over the years with massive changes in social relationships, habits etc?

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XWKD · 18/12/2025 17:00

This reminds me of the time I discovered that my grandmother's old house had been demolished.

PostKieron · 18/12/2025 16:19

Another thing that took place this year - a small private sports club that I’ve been going to basically since I was born in the 70s permanently closed last January! I also worked there in my late teens - it was such a fabric of my early life although I hadn’t used the facilities admittedly since around 1999 - I’m so gutted! I feel my childhood’s being ripped apart !

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PostKieron · 13/12/2025 20:54

the other thing that’s I’ve found out within the past month - another even closer family friend died in the spring of 2024. Hadn’t seen her since the end of 2018 and she’d moved away - she was 90 - but still ..

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PostKieron · 13/12/2025 17:39

Thank you everyone for your contributions to this thread and your understanding of this phenomenon.

Going back to my OP, I think why I was particularly surprised to hear the lady had died was this -

Around the time when we were invited to her daughter’s wedding, it was clear that her husband was the one of the two who had the more serious illness. In early 1989, it was thought that the husband wouldn’t make it to the summer of that year for his daughter’s wedding. So he seemed to have a ‘life threatening’ illness as early as 1989.

You might be surprised to learn that I can’t really recall seeing or speaking to this lady’s husband - he never seemed to be in the house when we visited. So I had no connection with him. I knew this lady from visits, Easter eggs, Xmas presents etc.

So I looked on Rightmove and found their house had been sold in 2006 - I assumed that the husband possibly died, and the lady wanted to downsize. Or her husband had possibly outlived expectations and they’d both downsized. Seeing there was no history of illness with the lady, if she’d downsized in 2006 there was a fair chance she could still be alive. So me finding out she’d actually died in early 2000 - 25 and a half years ago - was a shock.

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JustMerelyHere · 11/12/2025 13:09

I know exactly what you mean OP

Catpiece · 11/12/2025 11:35

I go to visit my dad’s brother and his wife. They’re in the late 80s now. They always spent Christmas with us in the 70s. The excitement when they arrived! My aunt’s voice still reminds me of those magical times x

PostKieron · 11/12/2025 11:16

Norugratsatall · 11/12/2025 11:05

Yes sentiments expressed in this thread really resonate with me.

someone said earlier that they feel a disconnect with their childhood. Yes agree! Mine seems almost dreamlike…. And, did it really happen?!

agree also that this time of year makes us reminisce more and be far more introspective.

Omg I agree so much with everything said here

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Norugratsatall · 11/12/2025 11:05

Yes sentiments expressed in this thread really resonate with me.

someone said earlier that they feel a disconnect with their childhood. Yes agree! Mine seems almost dreamlike…. And, did it really happen?!

agree also that this time of year makes us reminisce more and be far more introspective.

Catpiece · 11/12/2025 11:03

I hear you OP. I often (more so now I’m in my 60s) think of all the people we knew as kids and how they’re no longer here including both of my parents. They were living, loving people and now they’re gone. It’s so hard to explain

XWKD · 11/12/2025 10:57

It scares me to think about who'll be next, and who'll be gone in another ten years. I would never have expected some of the deaths from the last decade.

IndolentCat · 11/12/2025 08:46

I still feel shocked sometimes that my parents are dead, their stories are ended. Their deaths aren’t recent but they feel like yesterday in many ways and quite unbelievable. In fact a few weeks ago I woke up from a dream in which I’d been feeling guilty that I hadn’t visited my mum for ages, and the feelings were so real that I had to ask my husband if she was alive or dead.

i also feel shocked whenever I think of how old their friends are that I still see, because my parents obviously haven’t aged so my memories are sort of stuck- a bit like when you don’t see your friends’ kids for a couple of years and they grow up and change so much, the aging process after 70 seems to do similar to people in terms of changing.

PostKieron · 11/12/2025 08:40

Franjipanl8r · 11/12/2025 04:48

I always feel nostalgic in winter and miss old relationships then. Maybe it’s the darker days that bring on melancholy.

Yes I definitely feel the descent into Xmas makes us muse like this

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PostKieron · 11/12/2025 08:38

Sorry ALL - my past LONG post when I start talking about my grandmother should read - they lived

60 MILES AWAY NOT 3!!!!!!

Thats quite an important typo and I can’t edit !!

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PostKieron · 11/12/2025 08:32

CrustyBread1977 · 11/12/2025 07:31

I often think, when I see people buzzing around, busily getting on with their lives, that in fifty years none of this will matter. We all go about like we’re important and have important things to do, causing ourselves stress and anguish in the process.

In fifty years, we and our busy, “important” lives won’t matter. We will die, and people who used to be important to us (and vice versa) won’t even know.

I totally understand how you’re feeling, OP, and I often wonder whether a good message for the younger generation would be: “Enjoy yourself, slow down, and don’t put massive importance onto people/places/careers, etc., as all too soon, none of that will matter.”

ah yes very interesting musings - the very first line of your post is something I’ve often thought about

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LittleGreenDragons · 11/12/2025 08:32

Milliemoons · 11/12/2025 05:51

I recently found out that my closest school friend’s mum died during COVID. I know it’s nowhere near as long but she was such a huge personality, it feels weird to think that the world kept spinning without her on it.

Now that I have kids I often think back to the days when we’d all sit around my grandparents’ kitchen table - us kids, my parents and grandparents, gibber-gabbering, drinking coffee and juice, the place so loud you couldn’t hear yourself talk. Now both grandparents are dead and the house is long sold. The same spark can never be recaptured and I never knew in the moment that I’d look back on those moments and long for them.

@Milliemoons
I know it’s nowhere near as long but she was such a huge personality, it feels weird to think that the world kept spinning without her on it.

Perfectly put. Just how does the world keep spinning, especially without a wobble to let us know something major (to us) has happened Sad

Edit - apologies, I meant to clear the quote before posting but I can't in edit.

susiedaisy1912 · 11/12/2025 08:18

I also often ponder on the fact that we only really own a home for a passage of time. We are just passing through and then it becomes someone else’s home. My house was built 200 years ago and I thinking the previous ‘owners’ that lived here and I look around and there’s no evidence of them ever being here but at one time they thought of this house as theirs.

Owly11 · 11/12/2025 07:39

JudgeBreads · 10/12/2025 16:10

She died quite shortly after your mum who was her primary friend. It’s not very surprising that you didn’t know about her death. Not sure why you’ve made a thread in aibu about it. People grow up and change, it’s not an unusual occurrence.

Is life all about being rational and pragmatic for you? How sad. Just because you are not interested in or don't understand the issues and feelings that op is raising doesn't mean that the thread isn't important and interesting for others.

CrustyBread1977 · 11/12/2025 07:31

I often think, when I see people buzzing around, busily getting on with their lives, that in fifty years none of this will matter. We all go about like we’re important and have important things to do, causing ourselves stress and anguish in the process.

In fifty years, we and our busy, “important” lives won’t matter. We will die, and people who used to be important to us (and vice versa) won’t even know.

I totally understand how you’re feeling, OP, and I often wonder whether a good message for the younger generation would be: “Enjoy yourself, slow down, and don’t put massive importance onto people/places/careers, etc., as all too soon, none of that will matter.”

JudgeBreads · 11/12/2025 07:00

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springintoaction2 · 11/12/2025 06:21

I hear you OP - know exactly what you mean.

EINSEINSNULL · 11/12/2025 06:16

Renamedyetagain · 11/12/2025 06:11

I don't like going back to my hometown for this reason. Mid 40s.

Old schools demolished, shops for rent, pubs closed down, high street empty. Friends moved away.

Like a ghost town, full of memories with people who no longer exist. Only my parents getting older and less independent in the house we moved into when I was in primary.

I really have to psyche myself every time.

I don't really go back these days, because I can totally relate. My mum also had another fall recently and is suddenly her age, when she always seemed younger. It's hard.

susiedaisy1912 · 11/12/2025 06:15

It’s a strange feeling isn’t it. When you remember someone from the last time you saw them and imagine them to still be living their everyday life only to find out they’ve died. My childrens head teacher was brilliant and I really liked her. She and her husband both retired just as my youngest left primary school and she talked about all their plans they had. Fast forward 8 years and both were dead from cancer. He died three years after retirement and she 7 years. All the while I thought they had been having a wonderful time together doing all the things she had mentioned but in fact they had both been plagued with illness and passed away. I still think about them now. I can remember being so shocked when I found out.

EINSEINSNULL · 11/12/2025 06:15

Evety generation sees their lives change and their friends die. It can be a horrible feeling to realise it, but it is also something pretty much all of us experience in some way or another.

Renamedyetagain · 11/12/2025 06:11

I don't like going back to my hometown for this reason. Mid 40s.

Old schools demolished, shops for rent, pubs closed down, high street empty. Friends moved away.

Like a ghost town, full of memories with people who no longer exist. Only my parents getting older and less independent in the house we moved into when I was in primary.

I really have to psyche myself every time.

Milliemoons · 11/12/2025 05:51

I recently found out that my closest school friend’s mum died during COVID. I know it’s nowhere near as long but she was such a huge personality, it feels weird to think that the world kept spinning without her on it.

Now that I have kids I often think back to the days when we’d all sit around my grandparents’ kitchen table - us kids, my parents and grandparents, gibber-gabbering, drinking coffee and juice, the place so loud you couldn’t hear yourself talk. Now both grandparents are dead and the house is long sold. The same spark can never be recaptured and I never knew in the moment that I’d look back on those moments and long for them.