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Feeling really awful about myself and my son.

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Hope54321 · 10/12/2025 13:30

Hello guys,

Hope you’re all having a wonderful day. I am currently struggling with my self esteem and confidence because I am a sufferer of chronic bad breath since about 8 years old. My eldest son was born with bad breath. Doctors are so confused and just throw the usual “it’s acid reflux”. Dentists say we have lovely teeth and a clean mouth. We still stink so bad. My bad breath is at a point where I can no longer mask it with chewing gum. I floss, brush and use mouthwash before I leave the house and I still get reactions from people.

I feel guilty that I passed this horrible disease onto my son. He is only 4 yeas old, he should be enjoying his life. He also has eczema, severe allergies, asthma and autism. Poor kid has a lot going on.

I just can’t take it anymore. The doctors have no idea and I don’t have tonsil stones. I’m really struggling with the bad breath, especially because now my son is suffering. He is repeating what the kids have said to him. After school he kept repeating “you’re stinky”. It breaks my heart to watch him go through what I went through as a kid. I really worry about his future.

People avoid talking to me at his school because of this disease. I’m not sure how much longer I can go on for like this. Thank you for reading. I can’t speak about this to anyone in real life so thanks for reading.

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Bushwoolie · 11/12/2025 21:30

Have you asked for a referral to an ENT specialist?
This doesn't sound like something within the GPs scope of knowledge.

Calendulaaria · 11/12/2025 21:26

I'll probably get told off on here, but I would see a naturopath or homeopath for this.

OneGreySeal · 11/12/2025 21:25

Op try fermented products for your gut. I reckon that’s the issue.

Jollyjoy · 11/12/2025 21:14

Op, has the doctor confirmed that they feel both you and your son have bad breath?

PatchworkOwl · 11/12/2025 21:14

Maybe SIBO, OP? Do you have any other symptoms?

Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 21:07

TheDevilFindsWorkForIdleMums · 11/12/2025 21:05

LPR is notorious for causing bad breath.....I have it too and it's horrific.

It sounds like you have that too.....or GERD. Don't be adding acidic anything to your diet, you need to have an extremely low acid diet. No spices, no garlic, no onion etc, low fat and little red meat. . It's miserable but if you stick to it you do get results. There are groups on Facebook for people who have Gerd and lpr which are really helpful.

If it is LPR, wouldn’t omeprazole help? Also, coild a baby be born with bad breath due to LPR.

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TheDevilFindsWorkForIdleMums · 11/12/2025 21:05

LPR is notorious for causing bad breath.....I have it too and it's horrific.

It sounds like you have that too.....or GERD. Don't be adding acidic anything to your diet, you need to have an extremely low acid diet. No spices, no garlic, no onion etc, low fat and little red meat. . It's miserable but if you stick to it you do get results. There are groups on Facebook for people who have Gerd and lpr which are really helpful.

Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 21:02

mumofoneAloneandwell · 11/12/2025 21:01

Can you try something sweet to disguise your breath? Like a sugary snack? I know that's like the opposite of sense but 🤷‍♀️🥺

Sorry girl, its not nice to see your baby suffering xx

The sugary stuff makes it worse, so I generally avoid sugar.

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 11/12/2025 21:01

Can you try something sweet to disguise your breath? Like a sugary snack? I know that's like the opposite of sense but 🤷‍♀️🥺

Sorry girl, its not nice to see your baby suffering xx

Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 21:01

Hankunamatata · 10/12/2025 20:37

Twice daily sinus rinse?

I used to flush out my sinuses with salt water using sinus rinse, made no difference to my breath.

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Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 20:59

BertieBotts · 10/12/2025 20:37

Are you sure it's acid reflux? Have you seen an ENT? I would want a better answer because it sounds unpleasant, I struggle with tonsil stones (and finally got a referral for a tonsillectomy but then mislaid it for a year and probably have to get it renewed Blush)

I am a bit sceptical of the whole "companies that will test your biome and suggest a list of supplements which they conveniently stock at £££££££ prices" business model TBH but even so - I have come across one which does it for the oral biome which I was considering. They did an AMA on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/sutduc/were_the_founders_of_an_oral_microbiome_testing/

How are your gums? Are they inflamed and prone to infection or are they firm and healthy? I tend to get chronic gum inflammation and my mouth seems to produce a massive amount of plaque at all times, even when I cut down on sugar. My assumption is that there is something out of whack with the biome and this is somehow causing a cyclical effect so the extra bacteria from the plague and the bits of food which get trapped by the inflamed gums feed the tonsil stones and then the tonsil stones hang around and sort of act as a source of further bacteria to irritate the rest of my mouth. I used to be terrible with dental hygiene and I assumed it was due to this for years but then I got into much better habits with it and even when I keep up the good habits I still have the same cycle going on. It's better managed the more I keep up with brushing/flossing but it never fully goes away and I think I get symptoms of Oral Lichen Planus, which I intend to discuss with my dentist on my next visit.

The dentist was interested in my tonsil-gum link theory because she'd never come across a link between the two in literature and technically they are totally different areas of medicine, which could be why apparently. It seems logical that they could affect each other, since they are physically so close together.

My gums really good and healthy, no complaints.

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Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 20:58

IndolentCat · 11/12/2025 08:33

I used to post on Natural Mamas forum and someone on there had a baby who started to smell awful- turned out the baby had shoved a pea into its nose and it just stayed there in the sinus cavity, or something. Could there be something in your sinuses or ear canals (as ears, nose, and throat are all linked)? Suggesting as it seems you have tried everything, so maybe it’s time to consider the very very unlikely?

This doesn’t explain my son being born with bad breath. I can see why someone would smell from food being stuck in their nose though.

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BrentfordForever · 11/12/2025 20:57

Endo like PP mentioned will sort this but obviously not the easiest of tasks

Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 20:56

OvernightBloats · 11/12/2025 08:35

Another possibility is systemic candida. This can cause bad breath.

I did test for candida, nothing abnormal was detected.

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Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 20:56

Theseventhmagpie · 11/12/2025 09:05

Sorry OP, this sounds awful.
I would cast the net wider and post on more international forums like Reddit/ Askdocs and WebMD. These do get medical experts replying and many like trying to find a mystery diagnosis. You will of course have to weed out the unqualified rubbish but maybe worth a try.

I have tried this, still can’t seem to find anything. Never come across another person being born with bad breath even on the internet.

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Hope54321 · 11/12/2025 20:54

Xmasdemon · 10/12/2025 18:30

Try yakult

I have tried yakult, it gave me bad stomach cramps.

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Theseventhmagpie · 11/12/2025 09:05

Sorry OP, this sounds awful.
I would cast the net wider and post on more international forums like Reddit/ Askdocs and WebMD. These do get medical experts replying and many like trying to find a mystery diagnosis. You will of course have to weed out the unqualified rubbish but maybe worth a try.

Sbmpp · 11/12/2025 08:43

It’s interesting that you said your breath smells like poo. Have you had any scopes (with a camera) to see if there was a connection (or misconnection) from your intestines to your stomach? The GI system can give off all kinds of nasty smells.

OvernightBloats · 11/12/2025 08:35

Another possibility is systemic candida. This can cause bad breath.

Wordsmithery · 11/12/2025 08:34

How difficult for you, OP.
No advice other than keep pushing with your doctor. Say how badly it affects your life AND your son's life.
There will be a medical explanation for this so do persist.

IndolentCat · 11/12/2025 08:33

I used to post on Natural Mamas forum and someone on there had a baby who started to smell awful- turned out the baby had shoved a pea into its nose and it just stayed there in the sinus cavity, or something. Could there be something in your sinuses or ear canals (as ears, nose, and throat are all linked)? Suggesting as it seems you have tried everything, so maybe it’s time to consider the very very unlikely?

Hoardasurass · 11/12/2025 08:27

Could you have tonsillitis stones, they can be hard to see on yourself and often cause horrific bad breath, my mum had this until she had her tonsils removed and now has nice fresh breath instead of the death breath (it literally smelled like decomp) she had.

arcticpandas · 11/12/2025 08:19

So you have a good hygiene routine and you mind what you eat so it's obviously something medical. I would keep seeing specialists ; gut, orl etc

FizzPlease · 10/12/2025 21:16

BrentfordForever · 10/12/2025 15:01

This kills acid and likely to cause more bacteria

try Apple Cider Vinegar (could sort out GERD but also very likely to kill whatever bacteria are around)

even if it’s caused by dry mouth disease, this still leads to bacteria

finally try getting digestive enzymes (Enzymedica Gold is the best); likely you don’t digest certain food cause of how you or your son’s gut is

This is great advice.

Research food-grade diatomaceous earth - drink with lots of water and swirl it around your mouth too

Use a good probiotic (you will need to do this for several months to see proper results) but it will definitely help. Bad breath usually comes from the gut. Treating acid reflux is not getting to the root cause

and a good digestive enzyme as PP says

Age appropriate probiotics and digestive enzymes will help your son's skin issues too

Best of luck

BertieBotts · 10/12/2025 20:37

Are you sure it's acid reflux? Have you seen an ENT? I would want a better answer because it sounds unpleasant, I struggle with tonsil stones (and finally got a referral for a tonsillectomy but then mislaid it for a year and probably have to get it renewed Blush)

I am a bit sceptical of the whole "companies that will test your biome and suggest a list of supplements which they conveniently stock at £££££££ prices" business model TBH but even so - I have come across one which does it for the oral biome which I was considering. They did an AMA on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/sutduc/were_the_founders_of_an_oral_microbiome_testing/

How are your gums? Are they inflamed and prone to infection or are they firm and healthy? I tend to get chronic gum inflammation and my mouth seems to produce a massive amount of plaque at all times, even when I cut down on sugar. My assumption is that there is something out of whack with the biome and this is somehow causing a cyclical effect so the extra bacteria from the plague and the bits of food which get trapped by the inflamed gums feed the tonsil stones and then the tonsil stones hang around and sort of act as a source of further bacteria to irritate the rest of my mouth. I used to be terrible with dental hygiene and I assumed it was due to this for years but then I got into much better habits with it and even when I keep up the good habits I still have the same cycle going on. It's better managed the more I keep up with brushing/flossing but it never fully goes away and I think I get symptoms of Oral Lichen Planus, which I intend to discuss with my dentist on my next visit.

The dentist was interested in my tonsil-gum link theory because she'd never come across a link between the two in literature and technically they are totally different areas of medicine, which could be why apparently. It seems logical that they could affect each other, since they are physically so close together.

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