To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny?

Why do some people try to see misogyny in everything, or have to find something to be offended about? It's people trying to be funny, don't watch it if you don't like it. I don't watch tiktok but have seen some on YouTube. Men and women acting as both males and females. Most of it's shit but the odd one is genius. I love living with siblings and a couple of others. As already said, it's not a new thing.

Kathy Burke as Perry
Dawn french and jenifer Saunders
Hilary swank as Brandon Teena

Katy Wix (another v good young female comedian) dressed up as a man in the pilot of Fried, v funny ep.

She was fabulous Fergie in The Windsors.

That's a false equivalence that makes no sense.

You're saying mocking men is okay because they're men?

Must be your algorithm, do you think you're "rage watching" these clips and being recommended more and more? I can't think of any comedians I've seen playing their mums. I follow a young Italian/German comedian who portrays both her parents (dad with a bald cap) - Laura Ramoso. She's very good.

Katy Wix (another v good young female comedian) dressed up as a man in the pilot of Fried, v funny ep.

Ellie White and Natasia Demetriou in their sketch show (Ellie and Tash) play male chefs - brothers who only make tomato sauce iirc

The female cast members of the Goes Wrong Show (probably the most popular live non-stands up comedy around atm) play men all the time.

You need to actually say who you're talking about.

What online comedians with sponsorship deals?

You started out saying the online success of comedians but didn't actually name any apart from Mrs Brown's boys which is a TV show that is mostly panned.

Then vague things about men online getting sponsorship deals.

Who?

When women dress up to mimic women - Aherne doing Mrs Merton, for instance. a young woman playing a menopausal woman as a comic stereotype - is that punching sideways?

There were a number of 'issues' (shall we say) with Dick Emery - and his stuff has not aged at all well - but at least, when he played female characters, they were multi-dimensional (not just a minor 'sexy foil' to the main male characters, like with Benny Hill) and distinctive from each other - rather than just all the exact same 'generic woman'.

True of Stanley Baxter too. Their female characters were exquisitely observed and acted. SB’s portrayal of the Queen (though he called her the Duchess of something) was brilliant.

I cant comprehend at all the cognitive dissonance in our culture that is shocked by the black & white minstrels but condones drag.

it nauseates me.

the disrespect toward women is so ingrained, I despair.

The boy with the towel on his head is funny.

Kathy Burke and Harry Enfield played Kevin & Perry (2 teenage boys) as well as the Lovely Wobbly Randy Old Ladies - so a bit of a mixture.

I don't know if Barry Humphries' character Les Patterson was much less popular than Dame Edna because of the actual character or because a man playing a male character inherently wasn't considered as funny?

There were a number of 'issues' (shall we say) with Dick Emery - and his stuff has not aged at all well - but at least, when he played female characters, they were multi-dimensional (not just a minor 'sexy foil' to the main male characters, like with Benny Hill) and distinctive from each other - rather than just all the exact same 'generic woman'.

I don't watch MBB, as I like comedy; but isn't the very title of the show misogynistic in plain sight when Mrs Brown also has a daughter - or am I missing something?

I think it depends, some of them are very affectionate portrayals and you can tell that the men doing it actually like women. Others not so much

And it's not when women do it to mock men?

Cissie and Ada just remind me of my formidable Northern grandmothers - absolutely love them. So well observed. It’s a privilege to be old enough to remember when women like that were commonplace.

Totally agree - it is not subversive; we live in a patriarchy and so it is punching down for men to be dressing up and mimicking women

And Alec Guinness in Kind Hearts and Coronets.

Melissa McCarthy playing Sean Spicer (Trump’s press secretary during his first presidency).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI&pp=ygUcbWVsaXNzYSBtY2NhcnRoeSBzZWFuIHNwaWNlcg%3D%3D

I think you are right. Just getting a laugh out of misogyny. I know that everyone will have favourite examples that they enjoy and can point at examples of female comedians playing men for laughs but taken collectively it is the dominant group dressing up and imitating a stereotype of the less dominant group and it is offensive.

Mrs Brown's Boys is beyond awful.

I like Sooshimango on Instagram. They do dress up as their dads too tbf.

Oh come on, the amount of tiktokers & instagram influencers who do little sketches pretend to be their husbands is unreal.

Half my instagram feed is women pretending to be the father of their kids and acting out the whole leaving socks/towels on the floor thing.