To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny?

The ones of the “Panto Director” are great

.. he plays a variety of characters, that are really funny, hence why he makes money

Unrelated, but Richard Frank’s teacher skits, recounting the plot of Shakespeare plays with “straight up Gen Z vibes” are brilliant.

I found it extremely irritating how the BBC and others reported that 'The Vivienne' had died, when she too was just a character. It also seemed phenomenally disrespectful to James Williams and his family, who were all obviously referring to him as James and using male pronouns.

It would have been perfectly fair for them say "James Williams, best known for the character The Vivienne, has died"... but the way they did it was awful.

When Barry Humphries died, I don't recall seeing any headlines saying "Dame Edna has died".

Richard Franks does a stressed out mum character which is scarily accurate (although obviously massively hammed up) which i think is brilliant. I've lost count of the number of times I've collected my kids from school and spun around and half-shouted at them "Tell me about the gecko!" And his back to school skit is very funny too. I'd never thought of it as misogynistic though, just one of his characters (another one being a male pantomime director) and sympathetic to the struggles of mums.

Kathy Burke and Jennifer Saunders have both played male characters, as has Catherine Tate.

Haha! Good question! I suppose so because every women goes through the menopause if they live long enough (bar some medical conditions and surgeries e.g. I have a friend who will never go through it due to surgery she's had).

Ah yes I like Tatty Macleod too! Will check out Kate Waterfall Hill as well. Sounds like we have similar tastes (minus the random anti-Dutch content!)

Brendan O Carroll wrote the books & is now portraying the lead character himself. It's his intellectual property. The film with Angelica Houston was just based on his books but not involving him. I hate the show but him playing his own creation isn't the reason.

Yes it's offensive.

And 21 years old.

Was looking for films to watch with the kids and saw 'White Girls' and, never watched it, but how can that be ok? ... it's so offensive.

I think drag is as offensive as 'black face' used to be considered ... but I am just a woman so I should shut up really...

Loads of women do exactly this online. You're colossally overthinking this.

I was just thinking of lots of female comedians I see on Insta Reels/Tiktok that play men, hilariously - glad to see you got to Laura Ramoso before I did. Tatty Macleod does brilliant send-ups of French & British men, and there's a woman named Kate Waterfall Hill who plays a bad boss character that in theory could be either sex, but has very male-coded dickhead behaviours.

I do think that the algorithm feeds you what you watch more of. I have almost entirely female comedians in my feed playing characters of both sexes, because I mostly save and like videos of female comedians so I get fed more and more of them.

My feed is also full of home cooking, how to play electric bass, funny videos of stressed mums at christmas, millenials managing gen Z, and a whole category of videos making fun of the Dutch (I am not Dutch).

How is your thread title correct?

You said "To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny? "

But you can't name any successful ones?

And you didn't initially say 'oh I won't name them' you said 'oh there's loads I'll go and look on Tiktok' then came back with nothing.

So..there are no successful comedians online because of their misogyny.

Otherwise you'd be able to point them out as they were presumably the ones you started a thread about.

Or, like I said, in the sea of shit if 34 million uploads on Tiktok a day, you saw shit you don't like and made a thread about it claiming success through misogyny which you can't back up.

I do get what you're saying OP and know the type of sketches you mean- where they put clothes pegs on their fingers, tea towel on their head and rip the piss. That feels immature and just a bit hateful- ooh aren't women stupid, vapid and vain or, God forbid, old 🤮.

But also agree with a pp that it's not a set rule and done with skill, humour, even affection, it isn't at all offensive. Paloma Diamond is an international treasure!!

So the answer is no then.

You started a thread complaining about mem becoming successful through misogyny but couldn't actually identify any

What you meant was "I see men doing this online and I don't like it" which is fine.

But not at all the same as the premise of your thread.

Saying "I see stuff online I don't like" is pretty much the experience of everyone on line since it's saturated with complete shit.

I see lots of racist shit online. It doesn't mean those people are successful or getting sponsorship deals or any of the other things you claimed in your posts and then backtracked from.

You should change your thread title to 'I'm annoyed by things online'.

Tiktok uploads 34 million videos per day. Most of it is shit.

Because she had just become a teen.

Btw do you realise that what is "all over tik tok" is completely dependant on what you choose to click on and watch?
My tiktok is all aston villa highlights, good comedy because that's what i watch. Oh and heatless curl tutorials lol

I like Jay Nedaj: his female characters are rude, irrepressible and completely in control of their world, even the illiterate ones. But if you don’t enjoy what you’re watching, don’t watch it. Read a book, watch a film, try something else.

The examples I gave include 3 different women playing an annoying and oafish Italian dad, an idiotic bloke whose only characteristic is that he's bad at sex and a chavvy road man who can barely speak. Yeah not punching down at all.

I'm going to assume you've never actually seen these cos despite claiming to know about and "love" these female comedians you also claimed above never to have seen women playing men on tik tok or on tv since French and Saunders 😂

Too true to life maybe 😂😂