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Should self employed husband be able to care for three kids for a weekend?

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Plasey · 10/12/2025 01:38

Husband is self employed and I am a SAHM. The division of labour is very clear cut in our marriage. Dh does help with the house/kids when he is not working. Whilst I do my best to make sure husband is supported in his business. I think I am a lot more flexible than many would be in my situation. DH’s business is hugely stressful for him. The industry DH works is in a weird place and he’s feeling it. Especially as he has 50+ staff who rely on him. Luckily I have siblings without children and my parents to help me out.

I want to go on a weekend away with some friends. Normally I would send my two youngest to my sister/BIL and the oldest to my parents. But I’ve thought, “no I want the kids to be with their dad for the two days I am away”. He’s their father after all and they are very well behaved.

its caused a bit of an issue. Dh is worried he will have to go into work and he will be left up shits creek if that were the case. Dh doesn’t often go away for recreation at the weekends but when he does I’m not shipping the kids out.

It has become a matter of principle. Am I being unreasonable?

Dh doesn’t see why we can’t do what we always do ie get help from my family.

OP posts:
MummyJ36 · 10/12/2025 13:32

I absolutely hate that there is this misconception that just because you are a SAHM you do not have the right to any free time. That your partner gets to do whatever they want and that you are responsible 24/7 for the kids, almost as a punishment for not working.

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:26

Bamfram · 10/12/2025 13:23

The misogyny on this site is off the scale.
Completely toxic.

It’s a massive shame. I’ve been on here 17 years and it’s only been in the last few years. This thread isn’t too bad, the op is savvy enough to ignore them, but on threads where the woman is being abused and is so downtrodden, it’s heartbreaking.

beAsensible1 · 10/12/2025 13:24

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 10/12/2025 13:19

I agree, it seems there has been an influx of men on MN who seem to delight in scolding women. They are pathetic.

most of the posters seem like women to me. they just have a differing point of view

Bamfram · 10/12/2025 13:23

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:00

I really wish this was a female only space. It’s such a shame that mn has been infiltrated by misogyny.

The misogyny on this site is off the scale.
Completely toxic.

beAsensible1 · 10/12/2025 13:23

Plasey · 10/12/2025 13:05

Because I believe if dh can carve out time for holidays, sporting events etc then he should also be able to do the same to care for our children. Yes, there will be a financial implication as he will have to pay a specialist overtime but that’s just the nature of the beast. The children have a parent who is, in theory, available. Dh should be the default not my siblings/parents (dh is Irish so his family are not an option).

We live in the same town as my parents. We specifically bought close to them as I knew I would need occasional help. I do the majority of care but my parents and siblings are also a massive support. My children are the only kids in the family - they are absolutely doted on. I’m extremely lucky. It won’t be forever as my siblings will soon be having kids I’m sure.

Edited

ah so its about him making childcare a priority in the same way he does other things or his leisure activities ?

then say that to him.

"DH i am going away and i'd like you to make it a priority to spend the whole weekend with DC just like you do with "activity". its important for you and them to get your full attention sometimes and to spend quality time without me around."

the way you've presented it here is not clear that that is your aim. it just seems like you want him to "just because" not because its clear that he doesn't make it his priority. Have you been clear with him on this?

Kubricklayer · 10/12/2025 13:21

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:14

It depends how you do it.

of course parenting can be super easy, you can put them in front of an iPad and feed them chicken nuggets.

or you can put effort in and help them develop in to wonderful people.

So where does the 'hardest job in the world' feed into it? Sitting down with your kids and doing activities that stimulates their learning and strengthens your bond with them isn't a hard, strenuous job now is it? You said it was case closed that OP had the more difficult jo so I'm wondering how you came to that conclusion, especially when OP said DC were all well behaved?

Livelaughlurgy · 10/12/2025 13:21

Op I think it's fairly straight forward. You need to work full time before you can ask your dh to mind his children for the weekend. If you work full time, though the magic of the moral high ground, your dh will be forced to mind the kids. Unfortunately people married to SAHP have fewer hours in the week for their kids than people where both parents work full time or working single parents.

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 10/12/2025 13:19

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:00

I really wish this was a female only space. It’s such a shame that mn has been infiltrated by misogyny.

I agree, it seems there has been an influx of men on MN who seem to delight in scolding women. They are pathetic.

Naunet · 10/12/2025 13:16

Lidre · 10/12/2025 13:08

No but he could more often pay for the specialist cover OP has said is necessary when he goes away.

That seems like a very straightforward solution to me.

And you think he would in order to spend time with his kids, when he doesnt do that now?

I cannot get past someone making excuses for a father who makes sure he gets time away from work, for his own trips and hobbies, but not to spend time with his own CHILDREN. I heard once that the family hierarchy is:
Man
Kids
Woman

Going from this thread, that's absolutely true in a lot of people's minds.

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:14

Kubricklayer · 10/12/2025 13:02

Do you actually believe this BS? That parenting 3 young kids is the hardest job in the world? How can it be when kids needs and behaviours differ so greatly. You know someone invented that line so that SAHP could feel like rocket scientists and brain surgeons.

I'm sure a SAHP with 3 young children who have additional needs is a more difficult job than say a GP. But looking after 3 "well-behaved" children, two of whom will be in full time nursery/school, is not a more difficult job than working FT as a GP, lets be honest.

Edited

It depends how you do it.

of course parenting can be super easy, you can put them in front of an iPad and feed them chicken nuggets.

or you can put effort in and help them develop in to wonderful people.

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:11

Plasey · 10/12/2025 13:01

But I get the impression some of the posters deriding MY choice for doing what I think is best for my children are women

I really hope not 🙏🏿

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:10

Plasey · 10/12/2025 12:59

I suppose the principle is that dh can organise himself to not be relied upon when we go on holiday or when he goes to a sporting event at the other end of the country. He should therefore treat my weekend away similarly. He can absolutely block out that time. I understand financially this will have an implication but the kids need to be prioritised.

this info makes a huge difference to this thread.
it’s a shame it wasn’t in from the beginning.

so many people have made assumptions in favour of the wohp that he HAS to work.

clearly he doesn’t.

if he can go away for a weekend, enjoying peace of mind that his children are being well looked after by their other parent, then you should have that same experience. Equity. Equal downtime.

this is the bottom line in the who has it harder debate. It isn’t about hour by hour who is having a worse time. It’s about the fact that if one needs down time the wohp can go. The sahp can not.

Kubricklayer · 10/12/2025 13:10

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:00

I really wish this was a female only space. It’s such a shame that mn has been infiltrated by misogyny.

Sorry why should it be a female only space? I've been a SAHP of two young children (1 & 3) in the past after splitting maternity leave with DW. Imo experience that time was sigificantly easier than working FT. Granted not everyone has it that easy, but some do, hence you can't say it's the most difficult job in the world. My opinion is just as valid.

Also it's funny how you cry misogyny when so many are jumping on the default position of slagging off the OP's DH. A guy who probably works harder than most ppl on here slagging him. He also contributes to the housework as OP admitted.

But let's not have a range of opinions folks, let's just berate men and their failings, and pat OP on the back for being a super awesome mum. She's only an awesome mum through her own efforts, and none of the financial or domestic support she receives from DH facilitates in her being that mum.

dontmalbeconme · 10/12/2025 13:09

Plasey · 10/12/2025 13:01

But I get the impression some of the posters deriding MY choice for doing what I think is best for my children are women

You made your choice, which was 100% of the home and children while your DH does 100% of the providing. It wouldn't be my choice for various reasons, but it's yours and DH’s and that fine.

The problem is that you are now trying to shift the goal posts. He already has the (far) larger load, and now you're trying to make him do your agreed job in addition to all of his own. And you have other options available to you

Lidre · 10/12/2025 13:08

Naunet · 10/12/2025 13:07

So you're suggesting that if OP worked he would suddenly have a competent work force and wouldn't need to work at weekends and would instead parent his children? What are you basing this on?

No but he could more often pay for the specialist cover OP has said is necessary when he goes away.

That seems like a very straightforward solution to me.

Naunet · 10/12/2025 13:08

Monty34 · 10/12/2025 13:06

Given he has already said he suspects he will have to go in, that you accept this does happen at weekends, I would just do what you regularly do.
He is not 'getting out of looking after his kids'. He suspects he will be at work. He probably wishes he wasn't and could have a whole weekend without checking his emails etc. But he cannot. He is permanently 'on call'.
He may well be more than capable of looking after his children. The OP says he does when he is not working. All he has communicated to her is he thinks he might have to go in.
I wouldn't get het up about it.

He is permanently 'on call'

Except when he has his weekends away...

Naunet · 10/12/2025 13:07

dontmalbeconme · 10/12/2025 12:49

I agree the dad is losing out because he's having to do both parent's share of providing meaning he's not availble to do the fun side of being with his family. That's what happens when one parent opts out of financially providing for their family, the other one is forced to step up and shoulder the full burden at the detriment to their fun family time.

So you're suggesting that if OP worked he would suddenly have a competent work force and wouldn't need to work at weekends and would instead parent his children? What are you basing this on?

Monty34 · 10/12/2025 13:06

Given he has already said he suspects he will have to go in, that you accept this does happen at weekends, I would just do what you regularly do.
He is not 'getting out of looking after his kids'. He suspects he will be at work. He probably wishes he wasn't and could have a whole weekend without checking his emails etc. But he cannot. He is permanently 'on call'.
He may well be more than capable of looking after his children. The OP says he does when he is not working. All he has communicated to her is he thinks he might have to go in.
I wouldn't get het up about it.

Laptopinthelivingroom · 10/12/2025 13:06

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:00

I really wish this was a female only space. It’s such a shame that mn has been infiltrated by misogyny.

I don't understand the logic at all. On one hand they are claiming that it is impossible for those working to take on any form of parental role, whilst at the same time stating OP should get out to work. Surely by that logic her DC would then be totally abandoned?

Squishedpassenger · 10/12/2025 13:06

Comtesse · 10/12/2025 11:45

@Squishedpassengeras the first port of call for a weekend? No sorry I don’t believe it at all.

The woman I know who runs a big business (with like 2000 staff) is perfectly capable of taking her kids to ballet classes and frying fish fingers - and does regularly.

Yeah I literally care for pregnant women so I'm privy to their plans etc. Most women in very demanding jobs of that status have a nanny or rely on family for childcare. They aren't doing it all themselves by any means.

VikaOlson · 10/12/2025 13:05

He's capable of looking after his own children alone.

If he has 50 employees, he can get someone to cover him.

If he manages to go away on his own holidays, then it is possible.

Plasey · 10/12/2025 13:05

Lidre · 10/12/2025 13:00

You've never answered why you don't want them to go to your family. It seems like it's just to be difficult.

Because I believe if dh can carve out time for holidays, sporting events etc then he should also be able to do the same to care for our children. Yes, there will be a financial implication as he will have to pay a specialist overtime but that’s just the nature of the beast. The children have a parent who is, in theory, available. Dh should be the default not my siblings/parents (dh is Irish so his family are not an option).

We live in the same town as my parents. We specifically bought close to them as I knew I would need occasional help. I do the majority of care but my parents and siblings are also a massive support. My children are the only kids in the family - they are absolutely doted on. I’m extremely lucky. It won’t be forever as my siblings will soon be having kids I’m sure.

OP posts:
dontmalbeconme · 10/12/2025 13:04

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2025 13:02

That’s what happens when one parent opts out of parenting. The other one has to shoulder the whole burden.

Hardly. He's having to work all hours because she's chosen not to. She's free to work and use the raft of childcare options available to them.

Lidre · 10/12/2025 13:04

Plasey · 10/12/2025 13:01

But I get the impression some of the posters deriding MY choice for doing what I think is best for my children are women

You are absolutely entitled to make your choice, with the compromises it will require, but it's unclear why you're being so difficult about this weekend.

Squishedpassenger · 10/12/2025 13:04

usedtobeaylis · 10/12/2025 11:43

She would be expected to parent her own children and would be criticised if she didn't. The varying bar for mother's and fathers all over this thread is nauseating.

No she would just get her mum or employ a nanny. That's what women with demanding jobs tend to do. I don't know who you know...