To refuse to be a witness against colleague??

@NotFBI

Thanks, it has been a very weird experience.

I see s/he is still at it.

I thought that there might have been drinks involved before but since it keeps going, I guess not.

There was no need for that level of confusing aggression because someone pointed out that while in UK rape is only defined as penentration by penis, in many other places it is defined wider. And yes, even in, what was it, ah "civilised countries".
It was quite simple. Combined with absolute BS about physiological responses to unwanted stimuli, misreading and misrepresenting what posters say, I too am thinking someone here is being obtuse and aggressive on purpose.

Of course. Coming from the person who attempts to portray men as being equal victims of rape as women are.

I strongly suggest you reread your posts and how they are peppered in irony as regards your last reply. And then you clutch at incel insults simply because somebody called you out on your rubbish.

Perhaps a misogynistic website is more your thing? The ones where they pluck out feeble defences and try to counter horrific crimes against women with bulshit whataboutery.

And your foolish responses very much did indicate that you were pulling up rubbish from Google.

Keep going my dear, as the last word is something you clearly crave.

We all just love somebody who twists it on its head.

You fill your boots, as regardless of what you claim, you are in fact attempting to downgrade rape against a woman by plucking out nonsense from papers and ridiculous stats.

Men do not suffer the same fate as women do. The penis is the weapon and considered as such. It is used as violence that can cause unwanted pregnancy via the act of rape.

I am not angry. I am simply amused at you trying to circumvent reality and facts. Let me know next time when a man runs to the police traumatised as a woman climbed on top of him and managed to hold him down, much less managed to sustain his erection and cause his ejaculation🙄

Completely, she is like a broken record🙄

Why on earth do you keep (fourth post about it) going on about your son in a completely different situation in a completely different setting on this thread?

Yes. My DS didn't take it, and reported the girl for what she did. Bouncers offered to hold her there if he wanted to call the police but he was fine with just kicking her out.

It wasn't rape, but definitely not okay.

Absolutely.
There are numetous papers on involuntary orgasm during rape and thinkimg it cannot possibly happen and if one oes, than she/he enjoyed it is really really harmful and actually reportedly can stop victim coming forward.
It's body reaction.

You keep writing angry responses that have nothing to do with what I have posted.

At no point have I argued that sexual assaults are equally serious regardless of the sexes of those involved.

In fact - quite the opposite - I have twice said that many/most men would likely brush off having their genitals non-consentually groped. That is largely because they're unlikely to feel threatened.

Rant and name call all you like, as incoherently as you like, but when you ignorantly spread harmful myths about rape and other sexual assaults, like "women don't become lubricated unless they consent", I will continue to challenge you.

And I hope we can all agree that, while many men might be able to shrug off sexual assault with barely a second thought, that is far from a universal truth. Sexual assault, by non-consensual touching of genitals, is absolutely a serious wrong - regardless of how the particular victim actually reacts, because of the range of reasonably foreseeable reactions.

I think we can all agree. What Op saw the woman do was a drunken mistake. She should apologise for what she did and not do it again. Touching up and groping someone when drunk is also not okay, from both sides.

Please stop spreading harmful myths about rape.

Erections in men and lubrication in women are involuntary physiological responses. They can occur in situations of fear, coercion, or trauma, and they do not require psychological arousal or desire.

Psychological factors can influence physical arousal in consensual situations, but they do not reliably override the body’s reflexive responses.

Women can (and many do) experience lubrication during non‑consensual sexual contact, as men similarly can with erections. Those responses are automatic bodily reactions, not indicators of willingness.

An involuntary physical response does not indicate consent.

What the women didn't isn't as bad as rape. But it's still bad. Flashing a bra isn't appropriate. A one off mistake she should apologise for.

Groping men. Not okay. My son reported a girl and got her kicked out for slapping his behind.

I don’t think it’s worth you trying to over analyse this OP. You don’t have to go out of your way to report her (which I absolutely would say to do if the genders were reversed- and maybe that’s unfair but fundamentally a woman lifting her top to show her bra does not carry with it the same implied threat as an man exposing his penis). And you don’t have to feed into any gossip about her. But if called in and asked direct questions, just answer them factually. What then happens is down to company policy- it’s not on you to try and manage that. Hopefully she’ll just get a warning and it will teach her she can’t just say get legless at a Christmas party- she’s an adult and does has responsibility not to drink so much if that’s what happens when she does!

This has to be a joke. Did you completely skip sex ed? An erection is a completely involuntary physical reaction, it has no bearing on whether he welcomes the physical contact or not.

Absolutely - well said.

I am disinterested in other countries' laws, whereby a lot of them already would have women's rights eroded.

I am commenting on the location of where the incident happened that the OP has posted about.

It is a grasping at straws attempt to draw in other countries' laws to try and measure male and female assault as being somehow on an equal footing. Most people are fully aware that men are stronger than women, especially the men who set out to rape.

Saudi Arabia has laws, in which they stone people to death, whereas the UK doesn't. The States implement the Death Penalty, whereby the UK/EU don't. And so what.

If somebody posted from Dubai that their country view male rape as a worst crime than female rape, I would likewise be disinterested in their take on things.

Civillised countries recognise that men violently rape women and the impact of that is nothing compared to a drunk woman exposing her breasts, which are not weapons.