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Anyone seen woman arrested for saying f****t in a private text message?

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Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:12

This is completely bizarre. The news is thin on the ground so to see it I would have to link the mail or other obscure sites; but they are talking about this on Sky News abroad so assume it’s legit.

Apparently woman was arrested by 10 officers and dragged naked from a bath tub because she called a person who hospitalised her from assault a faggot in a message ranting to a supposed friend who reported her for using that word.

What is going on in this country?!

Yes sure that’s unpleasant. But is that really illegal? And if she has been hospitalised by this person then do I really care if someone uses bad words - even if they are hateful.

YABU - that’s a perfectly appropriate use of the law
YANBU - WTF is going on in this country!

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MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 13:40

Are there safe insults which we can use when ranting in private correspondence? I am not being sarcastic, I am gobsmacked. Can we refer to someone as an idiot or could it be misconstrued as a neurodiversity slur (as cognitive function impairment is a known symptom of some conditions)? Can we call someone a cow or an asshole, or is it an attack on animal welfare? Again, I am being dead serious.

Acafan · 09/12/2025 13:38

briq · 09/12/2025 13:02

It's not a word I would ever use, but honestly, I think people in a supposedly free country should be able to say whatever they like in a text message (especially if it's a private conversation that doesn't involve the person being 'described') without fear of prosecution by the state. A system of continued bullying or abuse directed at someone would be different, but it doesn't sound like this was anything like that.

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It's particularly egregious that this goes punished when worse crimes receive a slap on the wrist. But we're supposed to be shocked and outraged by someone using a slur in a text?

And yes, the way they went about arresting her seems over the top for any but the most violent offender. Was she really such a threat that they needed to go into her bathroom while she was bathing? Could it not have waited a few minutes?

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So someone should be able to send me messages calling my friends or neighbours racial slurs and I should just be ok with that? Because it isn't directed at me?

We're not supposed to be "shocked and outraged " at what she did. It was a crime, she pled guilty, she received a punishment. Just like speeding, or shoplifting, or graffiti - all of which are crimes and probably should be so society can function, but which I don't need to be outraged by.

I'd like some corroboration on 11 officers dragging her from the bath because I'm surprised there were 11 officers on duty today day, looking at police numbers.

rwalker · 09/12/2025 13:36

Dollymylove · 09/12/2025 13:27

If this woman was deemed to be "dangerous" the officers would be armed (Im.assumeing they weren't)
There wasnt that many officers searching house for a potentially armed suspect on 24 hours in police custody last night !!
Clearly someone saying an offensive word is far more of a risk!!

Or clearly you don’t (like the rest of us) know the full story to why it was deemed necessary to send 11
staffing levels in the police are horrendous so to take 11 officers to one job there is clearly a reason for it but it’s not been divulged

Rippedadventwindow · 09/12/2025 13:36

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 09/12/2025 13:17

I’m more shocked that people seem to believe it actually happened like that.

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You don’t belong she was arrested because she said a slur in a private text message?

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:35

WonderfulSmith · 09/12/2025 13:33

No. That was when they were charged. As they are under 18 they can’t be named or other information given out about them. It’s not gaslighting it would be the same whoever they were.

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No, you are missing the point. The boys are referred to as boys. Fine. The girl, who is younger, is referred to as a woman.

That IS gaslighting. She is a child.

WalkDontWalk · 09/12/2025 13:35

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:29

Yeah I agree the coverage is poor. I am going to watch Piers Morgan and report back.

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That'll help.

WonderfulSmith · 09/12/2025 13:33

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:29

You should see how Leamington Nub has reported it. The 17 year olds - two teenage boys. The 15 year old girl - a distressed young woman.

Peak gaslighting.

leamington.nub.news/news/local-news/two-teenagers-charged-with-rape-after-leamington-incident-259936

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No. That was when they were charged. As they are under 18 they can’t be named or other information given out about them. It’s not gaslighting it would be the same whoever they were.

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:33

As for whether the number of officers being believable - wasn’t there 7 for the ‘Lesbian Nana’ incident to a 16-year old autistic girl?

DancingNotDrowning · 09/12/2025 13:32

Boomer55 · 09/12/2025 13:25

Perhaps it’s best that she doesn’t abuse people. Sorted.✔️

You’re not the same person who was chastising posters for calling rapists scum this week are you?

calling someone names behind their back (even if those names are appalling) is not “abuse” and it definitely should not be a criminal offence. It’s absurd that this is where we at at.

MoFadaCromulent · 09/12/2025 13:30

1457bloom · 09/12/2025 13:24

This is why people vote Reform.

Because they are easily lead, lack critical thinking and believe everything they read online? Agreed

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:29

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

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You should see how Leamington Nub has reported it. The 17 year olds - two teenage boys. The 15 year old girl - a distressed young woman.

Peak gaslighting.

leamington.nub.news/news/local-news/two-teenagers-charged-with-rape-after-leamington-incident-259936

Locutus2000 · 09/12/2025 13:27

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:29

Yeah I agree the coverage is poor. I am going to watch Piers Morgan and report back.

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I am going to watch Piers Morgan and report back.

You need better sources than that before starting a ragebait thread.

Dollymylove · 09/12/2025 13:27

If this woman was deemed to be "dangerous" the officers would be armed (Im.assumeing they weren't)
There wasnt that many officers searching house for a potentially armed suspect on 24 hours in police custody last night !!
Clearly someone saying an offensive word is far more of a risk!!

Boomer55 · 09/12/2025 13:25

Perhaps it’s best that she doesn’t abuse people. Sorted.✔️

DancingNotDrowning · 09/12/2025 13:24

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

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It’s not hush hush because the daily mail fought an injunction on the press reporting these details.

1457bloom · 09/12/2025 13:24

This is why people vote Reform.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 09/12/2025 13:17

Rippedadventwindow · 09/12/2025 12:46

It’s extremely worrying and I am shocked that people think it’s ok. The police prefer to prosecute people like this as it’s easier than investigating someone who is guilty of assault.

I’m more shocked that people seem to believe it actually happened like that.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/12/2025 13:10

Muffsies · 09/12/2025 11:23

If someone assaulted me I would not be looking to inflame the situation with them. If they are derranged or unhinged how did she think that was going to turn out? Getting in trouble with the police is probably the least bad outcome. She sounds like an idiot that needs to be told to stand the hell down.

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ShesTheAlbatross · 09/12/2025 13:06

askmenow · 09/12/2025 12:48

The public is being constantly gaslit!
Just yesterday in Leamington Spa, two 17yr olds were convicted/sentenced for the rape of a a rape 15yr old white British child.

One dragged her into the bushes and phoned his mate to come and help before both raping her.

No MSM actually reported the FACTS that these boys were Afghan illegal migrants living in taxpayer funded accommodation.

So another girl has her life ruined because our Government are allowing men from mediaeval cultures to enter our country illegally and roam the streets.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ON THE ALTER OF “DIVERSITY”

To preserve our Free Speech, we should all join the Free Speech Union and stuff this Government and their censorship.

They want the public cowed into submission. After all it worked during Covid.

We have to accept this Government is not acting in the interests of the British people and make preparations for future unrest. Because it will come. There’s only so much Brits will take.

And whatever happened to resilience?

“sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”

No MSM reported the facts?

The bbc headline about this case is “Asylum seekers, 17, sentenced for girl's rape” and the first sentence of the article is “Two teenage Afghan nationals seeking asylum in the UK have each been given custodial sentences for the rape of a 15-year-old girl in Leamington Spa.”

randomchap · 09/12/2025 13:04

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/12/2025 13:01

What crime merits a woman being dragged from the bath by 11 officers?

Forget whether this crime does, what crime would?

Maybe she's already known to the police as a violent offender? Or her partner has form for violence. Or maybe the police were just being cunts in this case

Without knowing the facts speculation is useless

briq · 09/12/2025 13:02

It's not a word I would ever use, but honestly, I think people in a supposedly free country should be able to say whatever they like in a text message (especially if it's a private conversation that doesn't involve the person being 'described') without fear of prosecution by the state. A system of continued bullying or abuse directed at someone would be different, but it doesn't sound like this was anything like that.

Edit to add:

It's particularly egregious that this goes punished when worse crimes receive a slap on the wrist. But we're supposed to be shocked and outraged by someone using a slur in a text?

And yes, the way they went about arresting her seems over the top for any but the most violent offender. Was she really such a threat that they needed to go into her bathroom while she was bathing? Could it not have waited a few minutes?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 09/12/2025 13:01

What crime merits a woman being dragged from the bath by 11 officers?

Forget whether this crime does, what crime would?

PlayCertainGamesWinCertainPrizes · 09/12/2025 12:55

askmenow · 09/12/2025 12:48

The public is being constantly gaslit!
Just yesterday in Leamington Spa, two 17yr olds were convicted/sentenced for the rape of a a rape 15yr old white British child.

One dragged her into the bushes and phoned his mate to come and help before both raping her.

No MSM actually reported the FACTS that these boys were Afghan illegal migrants living in taxpayer funded accommodation.

So another girl has her life ruined because our Government are allowing men from mediaeval cultures to enter our country illegally and roam the streets.

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO SACRIFICE OUR WOMEN AND GIRLS ON THE ALTER OF “DIVERSITY”

To preserve our Free Speech, we should all join the Free Speech Union and stuff this Government and their censorship.

They want the public cowed into submission. After all it worked during Covid.

We have to accept this Government is not acting in the interests of the British people and make preparations for future unrest. Because it will come. There’s only so much Brits will take.

And whatever happened to resilience?

“sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me”

Gaslit how? We listen to BBC at work and it was on the radio yesterday, it’s hardly hush hush.

Dollymylove · 09/12/2025 12:55

Poor woman dragged from her bath naked by 11 officers. Dragged through the courts for calling her assailant, who fractured her skull, a hurty word.
The thug who assaulted her was never prosecuted
I think that rounds it up neatly