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Anyone seen woman arrested for saying f****t in a private text message?

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Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:12

This is completely bizarre. The news is thin on the ground so to see it I would have to link the mail or other obscure sites; but they are talking about this on Sky News abroad so assume it’s legit.

Apparently woman was arrested by 10 officers and dragged naked from a bath tub because she called a person who hospitalised her from assault a faggot in a message ranting to a supposed friend who reported her for using that word.

What is going on in this country?!

Yes sure that’s unpleasant. But is that really illegal? And if she has been hospitalised by this person then do I really care if someone uses bad words - even if they are hateful.

YABU - that’s a perfectly appropriate use of the law
YANBU - WTF is going on in this country!

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randomchap · 09/12/2025 14:09

MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 14:06

She called him a f-t in a text message to another person. It happened and is not being disputed. Now, is it hate speech? Is it illegal? Is it punishable by law?

Because it seems like, if she was just ranting, then it is ok. But if "there was more to the story" then it isn't.

So whether it is ok to call someone a f-t depends totally on a context?

Yes, well done. Context is so important

But this case isn't about that word, it is to do with the malicious communication that hasn't been made public. Communication which contains it, but it was only mentioned as an aggravating factor. Therefore even without it, she still committed a crime, the homophobia made it worse

BackToLurk · 09/12/2025 14:08

Bromptotoo · 09/12/2025 14:07

Either pleaded guilty or was found guilty.

Pleaded guilty. It's in the reports

GaIadriel · 09/12/2025 14:08

GarlicRound · 09/12/2025 11:49

Faggot's old-fashioned slang, though, isn't it, as well as being a spiced meatball. It seems like an odd term for a 30-something to use in anger.

I can't really see the cops sending a whole crew to arrest a woman in her home for a bunch of text messages, one of which contained the word 'faggot'. Either it didn't happen or there was a lot more to the messages, like a credible threat of harm to her attacker.

Tbf, there's a video of a 14-15yo autistic girl being dragged out of her house by about 5-6 officers for making a comment online. It was something along the lines of "she's a lesbian like Auntie Jane" but not meant maliciously.

She was cowering in the cupboard under the stairs, clearly overwhelmed, and they drag her out kicking and screaming from what I remember. May have got a few minor details wrong but it was essentially that. An autistic teenager making a non malicious comment and being arrested.

So I can believe this would happen.

MaidOfSteel · 09/12/2025 14:08

The other person in this text exchange needs to grow a backbone.

If he/she, and people of similar weakness, go to the police for every unpleasant word they hear, then no wonder it’s taking days for police to respond to other, actually important calls.

Or are the police and CPS waiting for such cases, low hanging fruit, rubbing their hands together with glee, a statistical success in all the doom & gloom?

Bromptotoo · 09/12/2025 14:07

BackToLurk · 09/12/2025 14:01

This is another of those "person pleads guilty to crime and is sentenced" stories isn't it?

Either pleaded guilty or was found guilty.

ScholesPanda · 09/12/2025 14:07

Ghrun · 09/12/2025 13:59

You don't have to be ok with it, but it doesn't follow that it should be a crime. Do you think all racism should be a criminal offence?

Racism/ Homophobia aren't illegal. Your free to have your racist/homophobic thoughts and share them with your nearest and dearest who won't feel harassed by them.

Harassment and malicious communication (sending a 'former friend' a 'barrage' of unsolicited text messages - quotes from the Daily Mail article) are illegal whether it involves racism or homophobia or doesn't. They can be aggravating factors though.

Out of interest what racism do you feel should be legal and what racism do you think crosses a line?

MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 14:06

randomchap · 09/12/2025 14:02

It's all about what actually happened. Not what is being reported, or speculated on

She called him a f-t in a text message to another person. It happened and is not being disputed. Now, is it hate speech? Is it illegal? Is it punishable by law?

Because it seems like, if she was just ranting, then it is ok. But if "there was more to the story" then it isn't.

So whether it is ok to call someone a f-t depends totally on a context?

randomchap · 09/12/2025 14:02

MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 14:00

In other words, this all about the backstory? And if she had just used the word f-t in a text, without the aggravating factors, then it would have been ok in the eyes of the law?

So nope, I am as serious as they come. Trying to get to the bottom of "hate speech".

It's all about what actually happened. Not what is being reported, or speculated on

BackToLurk · 09/12/2025 14:01

This is another of those "person pleads guilty to crime and is sentenced" stories isn't it?

MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 14:00

randomchap · 09/12/2025 13:49

No your not. This is not a serious post.

But just in case you're serious. She wasn't arrested for the insult, that homophobic word was mentioned as an aggravating factor in the malicious communication. It wasn't the reason she was arrested, charged, or plead guilty.

Distorting facts, speculation, and outright bullshit do not help

In other words, this all about the backstory? And if she had just used the word f-t in a text, without the aggravating factors, then it would have been ok in the eyes of the law?

So nope, I am as serious as they come. Trying to get to the bottom of "hate speech".

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/12/2025 14:00

Cherricherri · 09/12/2025 13:59

I haven’t bothered to read the whole thread or to find out if there’s more to the situation but taking everything at face value what a victim blamy comment. Let’s just let people go around assaulting people and anyone who does or says anything back is an idiot 🙄

“She was asking for it”

alive and well in 2025

Newbutoldfather · 09/12/2025 14:00

This is quite old news and only really reported in the tabloids.

It sounds like she was quite abusive to her friend over text.

But, I do agree that these ‘crimes’ are overly focused on relative to rape, burglary etc. I am guessing because they are easy to prove.

Ghrun · 09/12/2025 13:59

Acafan · 09/12/2025 13:38

So someone should be able to send me messages calling my friends or neighbours racial slurs and I should just be ok with that? Because it isn't directed at me?

We're not supposed to be "shocked and outraged " at what she did. It was a crime, she pled guilty, she received a punishment. Just like speeding, or shoplifting, or graffiti - all of which are crimes and probably should be so society can function, but which I don't need to be outraged by.

I'd like some corroboration on 11 officers dragging her from the bath because I'm surprised there were 11 officers on duty today day, looking at police numbers.

You don't have to be ok with it, but it doesn't follow that it should be a crime. Do you think all racism should be a criminal offence?

Cherricherri · 09/12/2025 13:59

Muffsies · 09/12/2025 11:23

If someone assaulted me I would not be looking to inflame the situation with them. If they are derranged or unhinged how did she think that was going to turn out? Getting in trouble with the police is probably the least bad outcome. She sounds like an idiot that needs to be told to stand the hell down.

I haven’t bothered to read the whole thread or to find out if there’s more to the situation but taking everything at face value what a victim blamy comment. Let’s just let people go around assaulting people and anyone who does or says anything back is an idiot 🙄

nomas · 09/12/2025 13:56

I'm confused by the IBT article. It says:

The case began when Kinney sent private text messages and photos of her injuries to a woman she blamed for an earlier attack by a male mutual acquaintance.

Is it saying she was blaming the woman?

WhodunitAgatha · 09/12/2025 13:52

MorrisZapp · 09/12/2025 11:19

I can only see this story on a Piers Morgan chat show. Have any news outlets covered it at all? Seems like large parts missing.

You think MSM will cover this type of story?

Anyahyacinth · 09/12/2025 13:51

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 11:18

I am just going on the reports here and taking them at face value. If anyone wants to present any evidence to the contrary then would love to see it because otherwise yes I am left thinking what the hell is going on!

But why should you be involved in the details of a police investigation - especially if this just happened? Using that word to describe someone is unacceptable..it’s literally hateful

Bromptotoo · 09/12/2025 13:51

A quick google produces a result that says she was charged with an aggravated malicious communication offence and found guilty.

westgatesentinel.com/international/11-uk-cops-storm-home-drag-naked-woman-from-bath-her-crime-one-text-calling-her-attacker-a-slur

Number of officers seems manifestly excessive but we don't know the whole story.

SapphOhNo · 09/12/2025 13:51

SapphireSeptember · 09/12/2025 13:41

Who's going to arrest Sainsbury's then? When did that word become offensive in the UK?

If you don't understand that when someone calls a man a 'f--t' they are not referring to spiced meatballs.

If you can't understand that, then I hope you have a carer at home.

randomchap · 09/12/2025 13:50

SapphireSeptember · 09/12/2025 13:41

Who's going to arrest Sainsbury's then? When did that word become offensive in the UK?

Context is everything. As you well know.

randomchap · 09/12/2025 13:49

MrsBelindaMay · 09/12/2025 13:40

Are there safe insults which we can use when ranting in private correspondence? I am not being sarcastic, I am gobsmacked. Can we refer to someone as an idiot or could it be misconstrued as a neurodiversity slur (as cognitive function impairment is a known symptom of some conditions)? Can we call someone a cow or an asshole, or is it an attack on animal welfare? Again, I am being dead serious.

No your not. This is not a serious post.

But just in case you're serious. She wasn't arrested for the insult, that homophobic word was mentioned as an aggravating factor in the malicious communication. It wasn't the reason she was arrested, charged, or plead guilty.

Distorting facts, speculation, and outright bullshit do not help

Spookyspaghetti · 09/12/2025 13:47

Shedmistress · 09/12/2025 11:40

A woman in posession of a mouth and using words in the dictionary IS the dangerous weapon...is it not why the Taliban have stopped girls from attending school? Don't want them females getting ideas above their station and using words they don't like.

I don’t think women should be proud of using discriminatory language and it’s ironic you mention women’s rights but believe we should live in a world where men/women should be free to be as sexist and derogatory as they like in the name of tin foil hat free speech.

Acafan · 09/12/2025 13:45

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:35

No, you are missing the point. The boys are referred to as boys. Fine. The girl, who is younger, is referred to as a woman.

That IS gaslighting. She is a child.

"distressed young woman" is a quotation from the police, who were asking to speak to people who may have seen a "distressed young woman". The police clearly haven't used child because that makes people think of an eight year old and not a fifteen year old - though I agree, teenager might have been more appropriate. But the police may be trying to mitigate against the adultification of victims and address the widest contingent - if you say you're looking for a teenager and a witness thinks the person they saw was an adult, you may lose that witness. "Young woman" is helpfully vague.

WonderfulSmith · 09/12/2025 13:44

StormyPotatoes · 09/12/2025 13:35

No, you are missing the point. The boys are referred to as boys. Fine. The girl, who is younger, is referred to as a woman.

That IS gaslighting. She is a child.

No. The ‘distressed young woman’ line was from the police. The force asked for anyone who spoke to a "distressed young woman" on Saturday, 10 May, to come forward..
That is a quote from the police, not what the paper used. I suspect they used the term ‘young woman’ because if they said girl people will assume they are talking about a young child rather than a teen. Still not ‘gaslighting’.

SapphireSeptember · 09/12/2025 13:41

Who's going to arrest Sainsbury's then? When did that word become offensive in the UK?

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