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Council tax is a c**t

618 replies

Upholstery · 08/12/2025 21:13

What kind of a tax doesn't take account of how much money you have? It's all just a bloody con.

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GrooveArmada · 08/12/2025 22:24

SlipperyLizard · 08/12/2025 22:20

My mum built a granny annexe after we did our loft conversion, little did I know that would give the council the opportunity to revalue and boom!, band G and £100 more a month in council tax 😫

I had the same situation, my house was revalued and we went up a band after the sale. It's disgusting, I'd have thought twice about buying in its current band had I known, it has gone up by £120 pcm in 4 years in Council Tax, and we pay across 12 months.

PigeonsandSquirrels · 08/12/2025 22:23

How much money you do or don’t have doesn’t really apply to how much you spend in terms of council spending though… in fact often those with the least money are the ones using the most services.

So which is fairer? The net givers pay out yet more for the net takers or everyone on a relatively even keel with a small amount of variance based on property value?

You just don’t want to pay your council tax…

SlipperyLizard · 08/12/2025 22:20

Dabralor · 08/12/2025 22:00

we bought a house that the previous owners had done a loft conversion on. The moment the sale completed, boom! Straight into band fucking G. Other people have done loads of work on our street, but are still in E or F because they haven’t moved. I hate it.

My mum built a granny annexe after we did our loft conversion, little did I know that would give the council the opportunity to revalue and boom!, band G and £100 more a month in council tax 😫

GrooveArmada · 08/12/2025 22:17

Agree with the sentiment in your title, although the c bomb probably wasn't necessary.

Disagree with your reasoning. You're confusing things here, income tax, CGT, inheritance tax etc are taxes relevant to the person's wealth.

Council tax isn't.

If you have a household with 6 people in it, you use more services provided by the LAs. That's a fact of life. You should pay more council tax, regardless of your wealth or property value. Maybe then there would be less single mothers claiming lifestyle benefits whilst uninterested in their six kids and satellite 'partners'.

ScholesPanda · 08/12/2025 22:16

ThisLittlePony · 08/12/2025 22:09

Of course it’s a cunt, it’s meant to be because we get local services…
98.9% of our council tax money is spent on areas that would be band A, if anyone paid the tax. So that’s free gyms, kids clubs-bfast, after schools, holiday clubs, the only libraries, community centres, parks- both play park and floral…
anywhere else in our local authority has libraries closed, kids activities stopped, but all meant to be grateful and thankful council has kept areas going. Tried to take my child to a bookbug group locally, wasn’t allowed as wasn’t band A tax.. didn’t matter group shut down as no one attended.

Where in the country do you live? I have never heard of a service being delivered by council tax band, that's really odd. Or was it limited to people within a certain ward or postcode (or other geographic area), and you believe that all the properties in that area are in Band A?

Every council I've dealt with professionally, or have paid tax too personally, has spent 70-80% of it's money on adult social care, child social care, looked after children and topping up SEN budgets. Libraries, parks, community services etc usually comprise 5% or less of the budget and are increasingly being passed down to Parish/Town/Community councils.

murasaki · 08/12/2025 22:14

Also, if my Council hadn't gone bankrupt 3 times and provides shonky services at best, and was allowed to raise it by 15%, I might be less chippy about it.

murasaki · 08/12/2025 22:13

Sure, but that's irrelevant to the size of the house, more by person. I've come round to the poll tax view.

RaininSummer · 08/12/2025 22:12

Bring back the poll tax as every adult uses services. It was a good plan so long as there are discounts etc for disabled people.

suburburban · 08/12/2025 22:12

ThisLittlePony · 08/12/2025 22:09

Of course it’s a cunt, it’s meant to be because we get local services…
98.9% of our council tax money is spent on areas that would be band A, if anyone paid the tax. So that’s free gyms, kids clubs-bfast, after schools, holiday clubs, the only libraries, community centres, parks- both play park and floral…
anywhere else in our local authority has libraries closed, kids activities stopped, but all meant to be grateful and thankful council has kept areas going. Tried to take my child to a bookbug group locally, wasn’t allowed as wasn’t band A tax.. didn’t matter group shut down as no one attended.

I hate that

why shouldn’t your dc attend when you are paying council tax to that LA

MidnightPatrol · 08/12/2025 22:11

murasaki · 08/12/2025 22:10

I rent, so I don't own the asset, I'm with you, OP.

Still using local services though aren’t you

murasaki · 08/12/2025 22:10

I rent, so I don't own the asset, I'm with you, OP.

ThisLittlePony · 08/12/2025 22:09

Of course it’s a cunt, it’s meant to be because we get local services…
98.9% of our council tax money is spent on areas that would be band A, if anyone paid the tax. So that’s free gyms, kids clubs-bfast, after schools, holiday clubs, the only libraries, community centres, parks- both play park and floral…
anywhere else in our local authority has libraries closed, kids activities stopped, but all meant to be grateful and thankful council has kept areas going. Tried to take my child to a bookbug group locally, wasn’t allowed as wasn’t band A tax.. didn’t matter group shut down as no one attended.

TeenLifeMum · 08/12/2025 22:03

I remember the outrage of poll tax so I think it’s a case of not pleasing everyone. The reality is, if you have a bigger house you’re more likely to have more people so paying extra makes sense. What gets me is the inconsistency of what each band pays.

HellsAngel81 · 08/12/2025 22:02

YANBU op! And don't get me started on the paltry single person's discount 😤

Upholstery · 08/12/2025 22:01

But millionaires aren't paying their share now and haven't done for decades! Why am I paying more tax for a tiny two bed flat that I don't even own than a CEO with a house in Westminster?

And my flat is as band C, as all two bedroom flats built after 1998 are round here, automatically, because they of this "assigning value" nonsense. So I'm even paying more than someone else in the area who lives in a bloody house! That they own!

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Dabralor · 08/12/2025 22:00

we bought a house that the previous owners had done a loft conversion on. The moment the sale completed, boom! Straight into band fucking G. Other people have done loads of work on our street, but are still in E or F because they haven’t moved. I hate it.

gogomomo2 · 08/12/2025 21:54

They take into account your property value (ish) you use services whatever your income. If they rolled council tax into main taxation I’d pay less so i should be pro local income tax but it would mean people like us don’t pay our share

Goodadvice1980 · 08/12/2025 21:46

YANBU OP.

And they’ll chuck you in jail for non-payment! I despise how LA’s get away with their behaviour.