People like this should be deborted

What proportion of asylum seekers have successfully been deported to Afghanistan after a crime?

We absolutely should not be returning people before they serve their sentences. There’s no guarantee they would serve any time

Ok. You might be right.

Some times that doesn’t matter.

This is a tangential point, but years ago I went to a talk by the author of a book that had really resonated with me. It was so disappointing. She couldn’t answer basic questions. I left thinking that the book had written itself as all the interesting conversation it generated in others completely passed her by.

We're talking about the UK. Ireland will have its own rules

💯 agree..I live in a very diverse community, prior to 2022, most people mixed and lived well. My nieces boyfriend born here aged 22, told to go back to Africa.
I had a rant on SM asking locals to be mindful as the communities are being damaged, thw long-term citizens are equally concerned about the level of immigration and being bullied in the mess.

If you think OP has posted in order to have a nuanced conversation I have a bridge to sell you

What they should do is pay the scottish goverment for use of one of the islands that have no population & build a detention centre & put all of them there away from the british public, for our own safety. Only way to leave is through being deported back to your own country. Win win.
They should not be having free rein to roam around in between the public, they have proven time & time again they are nothing but dangerous criminals.
I said what I said, I am no means racist but they should not be anyone unchecked just walking around free to do as they please. The country is fucked, the police can’t deal with it as they are to busy arresting people for what they post on social media or dealing with woke agendas to actually keep the streets safe.

Yes - I know that one has deportation papers. I still thinks it’s not an invalid conversation topic. We have a lot of foreign nationals in our prisons. I think the default should be that the international community agrees prisoners should be returned home to serve sentences in their own countries closer to their family.

And when it comes to immigration policy we do need to remember that we create the society we live in through the choices we make. When we allow inverted men from misogynistic countries to roam our streets these crimes are highly predictable. Our government is culpable. This particular pair had, I think, already been processed, but many of the recent assaults on women and girls were by men who had been here for a very short time and were still in a hotel. They should not be free to commit crimes until the authorities are confident they don’t pose a risk.

No necessarily true.
In Ireland, two refugees had a fight with knifes, one died, both had previously charged in Italy for rape, deported to Nigeria before popping over to Ireland.
There is no international checks as both were registered for payment and accommodation.

Yep this. Plus it’s very hard to deport to some countries even after a serious crime.

Exactly. Im non white and already I can sense that brown and black people who have been in this country for 2 generations plus are going to bear the brunt of the inevitable backlash. Already a MP whose mistake was to be born in Kashmir is being told she is not British and has no right to sit in Parliament. All because we can't have a sensible immigration policy like most other countries.

Thanks liberal lefties!

One has been handed deportation papers and the other has been recommended for deportation, but as he’s 17 the government must make the final decision.

Of course, but they won't deport them, they will continue allowing young men with a similar mindset to sexually assault women.

Afghanistan can be harder to deport to

One has been handed deportation papers. The other has been recommended for deportation but as he is 17, the judge cannot make that decision and it has been handed to the government who will no doubt deport him. This is a total non story that OP has posted in order to get people frothing about immigration.

PS The fleeing vulnerable includes other zones equivalent to war. Drought causing famine etc. These are hopefully all temporary and the international community should step in to help make it possible to go home.

The age of criminal responsibility in Britain is 10. They committed possibly the most adult of all crimes. So yes, I think they should be deported. We should have prison agreements so foreigners serve sentences at home.

Generally my view is that there should be two types of asylum: (a) the vulnerable fleeing a war zone, (b) brave high profile individuals like Salman Rushdie or Ken Saro Wiwa (who didn’t flee sadly). Fighting age men aren’t either. If they don’t like their country as it is, they should stay and fight to make it as they wish it to be. Maybe if more Afghan men had stayed and supported the previous government then the Taliban wouldn’t have returned to power. It takes commitment to create a civil society like ours.

It would help if you read the article you posted

Migrants jailed for sexual assault just walk out of prison

No they don't. After serving their time, they are transferred from prison to immigration detention/removal centres and returned to the country they came from.

Yawn? So rapists should get off with it because of their skin colour then?

Sentence served, deportation and a lifetime ban on returning. This should be for any crime. If you want to come to the UK, you should, at the very least, abide by UK laws.

I agree. I am fed up with the faux naivety around other countries attitudes to women. No country is perfect but if people come from a country where women have no rights why are we shocked when they treat women badly.

Also I think it's legitimate to have a conversation about cultural compatibility re immigration i.e. the issue of taking men from cultures where women are routinely treated like dirt

As an immigrant myself I want them deported and I have no idea why anyone is arguing otherwise. I'm so tired of the impact this kind of nonsense has on the many thousand of immigrants just living normal lives. The whole asylum system is a car crash and we're going to have a bloody Reform Gov in a few years if no one deals with it.

I hate these sentiments.

You SHOULD want justice, so the state should exact justice. Not lazy criminals who may or may not, depending on their whims.