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To find it hard to adjust to this kind of home?

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Firefumes · 08/12/2025 00:20

I recently viewed some houses, where the front door/windows are right at pavement level. So people walking past the house can easily see in, if you were unlocking the front door, others would be directly behind you if they walk past. Aibu to feel this is a bit unsafe?

I’m sure many people manage okay. It’s just that I have had my own apartment for a few years. It’s a nice apartment complex with restricted access, gated entry, concierge so feels safe. I’m also on the 2nd floor. So I feel risk of theft or break ins are low.

Previously I lived with my friends at university, and before that I lived with my parents. My parent’s house has a long, steep driveway and a porch. Their front door isn’t accessible at street/pavement level to passers by, you’d have to take the stairs. As a result, they’ve never had any bother from strangers and their house feels safe. Was no bother leaving parcels in the porch as they were covered from street view.

But something about the houses I viewed recently, just felt unsafe. Like they were too accessible to members of the public, people just naturally end up in close proximity and able to see inside. Aibu to write these off for that reason?

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OldBeyondMyYears · 08/12/2025 07:54

Firefumes · 08/12/2025 01:00

To be clearer it’s a house without a driveway nor front garden, as in the doorstep is the pavement.

You’ve led a very sheltered life if this kind of house is a surprise to you OP! Many, many homes are like this 🤦‍♀️

Sunshineo · 08/12/2025 07:54

I suppose it depends on the area. Look up the crime rate. As others have said, being less secluded may be safer?

We don’t have houses like that near me and it would probably feel quite exposed for a while. If I was desperate to get on the housing ladder I would consider it.

BringBackCatsEyes · 08/12/2025 07:52

Oh and my house was built in the 80s, quite easy to insulate!

BringBackCatsEyes · 08/12/2025 07:50

Friendlygingercat · 08/12/2025 06:47

Im thinking that there used to be many houses like that in villages and also in parts of London. They used to be called "workmens" cottages because thats what they were. On big country estates they were for the agricultural workers and the servants of the big house. In London they are called mews cottages and are very expensive and desirable. You step straight into the main living room from the street, Our house had a kind of corridor (lobby) with the rooms leading off it. We used to play there as kids.

As some PP have pointed out most of the houses in the working class parts of large cities were like that. This is a very normal way for older houses to be built. Its only in the later 20th century that new builds were made with spaces for cars and set back from the street. Most will have some private space at the back.

Another thing thing about such older houses is that they are difficult to insulate to a C standard. So there may be many of them going cheaply if the new regulations come in as they will be difficult to sell. But if Labour gets kicked out that may change.

I live in a village. Loads of such houses here. We are in the south.
I’m just not understanding how people need to explain what they are.

iSage · 08/12/2025 07:49

I lived in one and didn't want net curtains as it was quite dark anyway. Occasionally people would look through the window. I used to wave at them and they quickly went away.

slowbam · 08/12/2025 07:46

I walked past one of these once and saw my colleague ironing in his pants. You have to either use nets, voiles or shutters. Shutters make your home dark. You have to choose your house according to your budget but I would not choose a house that you step out onto the pavement through choice.

FenceBooksCycle · 08/12/2025 07:46

It's totally fine to have one of your red-line requirements to be that the front door doesn't open straight onto the public pavement. No one can force you to buy a property you don't want.

Whether it's actually unsafe depends on the area. The same layout in a sleepy town or little village, or in a posh expensive part of London, might be perfectly safe.

TheAlcott · 08/12/2025 07:43

I currently live in a detached house with a large driveway and front garden, set right back off the road (and at an angle, so the front door doesn't even face the road).

However, I would really prefer to live in the nearby small, medieval cathedral city, where to live within the city walls (and therefore have the easy access to the restaurants, shops, bars, theatre etc I'd like) would mean buying one of the houses you're so worried about, OP. They cost a small fortune and are highly desirable!

Gliblet · 08/12/2025 07:43

LemonDrizzleKay · 08/12/2025 06:36

You didn’t call the police?

DH came home early from work once and disturbed a burglar in the act of rummaging through our house. It still took the police 3 hours to turn up. I'm not sure 'someone looked through my window then tried the door handle but it was locked' would have got much of a response.

OP ee used to live in one of these no front garden/path/drive places, in an area of Bedford that was all built as factory workers houses, so cookie-cutter/identical terraces, front doors opening onto the street. People just used Yale locks and net curtains or blinds. I suspect the main issue here is just that it's not what you're used to. If anything we've had more break ins and attempted break ins in our current neighbourhood, not because the crime rate here is higher but because people use front hedges and garden walls to shield them while they're trying to force doors open. You can't do that on a flat-fronted terrace (especially if the neighbours are nosy).

Worralorra · 08/12/2025 07:41

I’ve never lived in a house without a front garden, but I do hate net curtains - and people walking past do tend to glance in, especially if the light is on and the main curtains aren’t closed, so I got some window cling to partially obscure the lower half of the windows. It’s on Amazon, really easy to apply (it’s not sticky-backed - you just apply with water and a wee drop of fairy liquid) and does the job really well.

Dollymylove · 08/12/2025 07:40

I lived in a terraced street house for a few years. Northern town, full of them. It was never a problem. I had net curtains and nobody really looked in.
This was back in the late 80s/early 90s when their wasnt the same crime rates as nowadays .

ChampagneLassie · 08/12/2025 07:30

Your description makes it seem like an oddity when in fact these are many people’s homes throughout UK. Having said all that, I understand your point. I think you need to get a bit more facts about perceived safety and actual safety. If someone was fallowing you, I’m not sure a front garden would necessarily save you, or that larger houses hidden from street view are less likely to get burgeled! I lived in a house direct on street and I knew my neighbours, there was always lots of lights on and a bit of bustle so it felt very safe to me. If you want a house in London I’d imagine any other options will be limited within a presumable budget. So perhaps better to acquiesce to the idea or ask agents if anything else available. (Gated new builds?)

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 08/12/2025 07:30

OP - it is very common and in many places will be the lower end of the market. I'd reframe things a bit - you live in London, have a good salary and want to buy. You're buying as a single woman - safety is a key consideration, that's perfectly sensible.

I'd see what your budget buys in various permutations - what does a house set further back cost, v this type? What about if you move out to the next zone/tube stop? What about a flat (not with a concierge, just a low rise block with manageable service charges)? How is street lighting, proximity to the tube and high street in each of the above? Safety isn't a one-size-fits-all.

I have to say, my personal fear w/housing is actually housing with a dark/dense front garden or something set back from the road - I think it would be easier for someone to hide there in wait (sorry). When we bought our house I installed a floodlight with a sensor, and a Ring.

BerryTwister · 08/12/2025 07:27

Wingingit73 · 08/12/2025 05:04

Omg i cannot believe the privilege in this post. She's talking about a normal terraced house where lots and lots of people live.
Just imagine not having a concierge or long driveway! How on earth would you cope 🫣

Exactly! Reading this thread makes me feel like I’m in some sort of parallel universe, with people who have no idea how millions of others live.

Ginmonkeyagain · 08/12/2025 07:27

@MiniPantherOwner ha ha. Try living in a flat like I do! The sheer horror of gasp "only being able to afford a flat" that often gets expressed on these threads.

notacooldad · 08/12/2025 07:23

To be clearer it’s a house without a driveway nor front garden, as in the doorstep is the pavement.
You mean like the old terraced houses, like the ones in Coronation Street. If so there's millions of them!

Im from a northern town and they are quite normal there! The first house I bought by myself was one of these. The front door went straight into the living room. I got a vestibule built to give a bit of distance from pavement to room, mainly to conserve heat if I had to open the door in winter.

I had diamond leded windows and a frilly met curtain so that gave privacy. These days there are more window dressing options that are more modern. I never felt unsafe
My house was like the one in the picture.

To find it hard to adjust to this kind of home?
Ginmonkeyagain · 08/12/2025 07:22

I hate to break ot to you OP bit if you are looking for a house in London, that is a very very common type of house. Even many expensive houses in desirable inner boroughs look like that (although yoi.may get steps up to the front door).

If you go out to the suburbs you will see more houses with small front gardens (and I mean often just enough space to stash your bins.)

If you wamt a big front garden and porch you need to go further our or have a lot of money.

snoopythebeagle · 08/12/2025 07:20

B1anche · 08/12/2025 04:34

Not where I live. It sounds horrendous. Even when I lived in 2 bed terrace, there was a front garden to separate the house from the street.

It’s a bit rude to describe how millions of people live as “horrendous”.

Mylittlepea · 08/12/2025 07:18

I bought my first home in the late nineties (a 3 bedroom house,Victorian terrace), front door opening right onto the street, with my lounge window right on the street. It cost me £41,000 and the deposit was approx £2000.

it was nothing like my childhood home or house shares & a bedsit I’d rented previously.

it was the best financial decision of my life. Admittedly not London, but a suburb of the city I live in, not necessity the best area, with a pub at the bottom of the road. I put heavy voile curtains up and yes I heard people talking/walking past but wasn’t a problem with safety - if anything very safe as it was in a well lit street.

all that said, OP, you need to feel safe in your home so don’t buy a house like that if it doesn’t feel comfortable but there are literally hundreds of thousands of houses like this in the UK

Burnnoticed · 08/12/2025 07:12

I’m not privileged but I have a decent enough income from work to live alone in London. Hence starting out by renting an apartment with concierge.

GiantTeddyIsTired · 08/12/2025 07:11

It's a very normal house - but I don't like it either - although not for your reasons, but was worried about a child bolting straight out into traffic.

Mind you, even set back, I don't like living in houses where the front door opens straight into the living room - I don't like the drafts, or anyone at the door seeing straight in. I much prefer a little hall or even just a little jag (this is what I have at my old house) so people have to come in to see into the room.

Azandme · 08/12/2025 07:11

Firefumes · 08/12/2025 05:41

I mean, most people understood where I was coming from.

Ultimately yeah, I don’t have a frame of reference as I haven’t lived in a house like that. I’m not privileged but I have a decent enough income from work to live alone in London. Hence starting out by renting an apartment with concierge. I mentioned I’m in my 20s and would be buying alone - I naturally gravitate to what feels the most familiar/safe. I just wanted to see if others felt this was worth compromising on particularly if they were living alone and not with family/partner at that age.

To me, it’s one thing being responsible for an apartment where security is shared. It’s another thing to have sole responsibility of all/any security of a house. If I had a house like my parents, I would feel more comfortable as there were times I had the house to myself for a couple of months and felt fine.

However the houses I viewed, I just didn’t feel safe in. I’d avoid a ground floor apartment for similar reasons too.

If you'd avoid a ground floor apartment, then surely any house would also need to be avoided as they are all ground floor...

dahliadream · 08/12/2025 07:05

Our last house was like this and actually I didn't think anything of it. It was our front door and kitchen next to the pavement and we just had blinds in the kitchen that I'd shut in the evenings. It was quite rural though so there was more car traffic than foot traffic. I never felt unsafe but it was quite a nice area.

Maryberrysbouffant · 08/12/2025 07:05

There are millions of terraced houses exactly like that all over the country. If you’re on a restricted budget it might be the only type of house you can afford. It’s never occurred to me that they’re particularly unsafe.