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For not driving through red light with ambulance behind me

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User34445566677 · 07/12/2025 21:13

Stuck at red lights in 3 lanes of traffic. I was in right hand lane to turn right, at the front of white line and railings to my right so couldn't pull to the side. Middle lane for straight on. Left hand lane (towards hospital) is always allowed to filter through first via green light to the left, then after a while, the forward and right turn green lights come on. Ambulance comes up my lane whilst red traffic lights on. Blue lights and sirens on, all while the ambulance is indicating left (I am the only car in this lane, other lanes have several cars in). Ambulance leaves sirens on, and even beeps while lights are on red ( though i am not 100% sure this was the ambulance, but don't know who else it would have been?). From what I have read, you should not cross during a red light even for an emergency vehicle, I would have been entering a box junction? Was I BU to not cross the red light? And I think the Ambulance would have been quicker going in the left lane which filtered through first? Very confused. TIA

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bodyofproof · 07/12/2025 22:49

User28425 · 07/12/2025 22:48

I've only been driving 18 months, and this wasn't something that came up in lessons/driving test so I've been meaning to check up on this. I always panic when I hear one as everyone pulls over etc but I haven't had to so far. I have seen cars pull past a red light to let ambulances through, I saw it just this week infact. I expect the ambulance chose your lane because you were the only one with one car in so could have moved for them, so it must be the expected thing to do .

Don’t go through a red light ever unless the police instruct you to do so
ambulance crews will wait for it to change then move over as soon as you can

Emonade · 07/12/2025 22:49

travailtotravel · 07/12/2025 21:16

Omg you pull forward enough to let them through .... everyone can see the ambulance and gets pit of its/your way in letting it pass. When the blue lights are on get out of the way.

This!!!!

User28425 · 07/12/2025 22:48

I've only been driving 18 months, and this wasn't something that came up in lessons/driving test so I've been meaning to check up on this. I always panic when I hear one as everyone pulls over etc but I haven't had to so far. I have seen cars pull past a red light to let ambulances through, I saw it just this week infact. I expect the ambulance chose your lane because you were the only one with one car in so could have moved for them, so it must be the expected thing to do .

User34445566677 · 07/12/2025 22:48

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:42

It doesn't just say that! Have you even read what you posted?

It says you should pull right if possible! This is completely inappropriate / highly dangerous advice in the UK where we drive on the left!

So everyone on MN are basically robots with no common sense and are going to read that small piece of information and are going to be consumed by it.
Get a fucking grip

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MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:46

Climbingrosexx · 07/12/2025 22:38

Temp lights are different, if they are stuck for an unusually long time you would then proceed with caution, there is also no solid white line that you would be crossing. We are not talking about temp lights though. We are talking about going through a red light for an emergency vehicle

There is no difference in law between temporary lights or permanent lights, so you are making my point for me: different circumstances need different approaches.

YourRedLurker · 07/12/2025 22:46

I work for ambulance service - you're essentially right; you can only legally proceed through a red stop light if you are directed to do so by a police officer.

If you proceed through red light because of an ambulance behind you and trigger a traffic cam you'll very likely get the points/fine. If it was that you were observed to do so by a police officer I'm fairly certain they'll use their discretion and wouldn't consider pulling you up on doing so.

Guidance for us is if the path through a red light is blocked (which we have the exemption to treat as a giver way) is to turn the siren off and sit back and wait for the opportunity to progress. The only time we don't do this, and I agree it's not technically correct, is when we are responding to something like a child not breathing and seconds will make a difference - we're only human and desperately trying to get through so will be a bit pushier in those circumstances.

mrschocolatte · 07/12/2025 22:44

@PyongyangKipperbang Yes, but it wasn’t upheld. I was genuinely surprised by that.

XenoBitch · 07/12/2025 22:43

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:29

Genuinely, can you not envisage any circumstances where you would cross a red light?

There were temporary traffic lights put at the end of my street a few months ago. Faulty. Stuck on red all day. I would still have been sitting there eight hours later had I not gone through them.

What would you have done? Phoned the council?

When I had a motorcycle, I was out on it at about 2am and stopped at the lights on an A road that was crossing a motorway junction. At such a late time, I think the traffic light was activated by lights from approaching vehicles... and my motorcycle did not set it off. I was sat there for about 15 minutes until a car came up behind me and the light changed to green.
I could have carefully inched out and ran that red light, but it was too dangerous and could have ended very badly.

Temp light are a bit different, and you tend to see the other end anyway so you can judge things a bit better.

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:42

User34445566677 · 07/12/2025 22:31

I'm so confused 😂 it just says you shouldn't jump a red light?? Which was my question from the start. I've read the same rules from an ambulance worker. I think people will know not to drive to the right in normal traffic lanes, but in a lot of city centres, streets with multiple lanes are one way. Good grief 🫠🫠🫠

It doesn't just say that! Have you even read what you posted?

It says you should pull right if possible! This is completely inappropriate / highly dangerous advice in the UK where we drive on the left!

Fishpieandchips · 07/12/2025 22:41

My friend had his blue light driver training a couple of months back. Im pretty sure he said they cant approach other vehicles at traffic lights and intimidate with lights and sirens. I think they need to turn sirens off.
The ambulance driver was in the wrong

User34445566677 · 07/12/2025 22:40

pinkksugarmouse · 07/12/2025 22:33

You were confused as to what to do so not running the red light was probably best. The last thing you should do is risk another emergency.

Not confused, rather I was confused at the reaction of the ambulance crew. I was at the front of the white line, railing all down my right side, in the right hand lane, so no where to go other than the middle of a busy box junction. And the ambulance were turning left down the road to the hospital. The lane which lights goes green first.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 07/12/2025 22:39

mrschocolatte · 07/12/2025 22:34

My brother did this recently and was fined and received points. It was money he couldn’t really afford to lose. It’s all very well being righteous and taking the moral high ground but there can be serious consequences if you’re caught. It’s a risk I wouldn’t take.

Did he defend it?

BrickBiscuit · 07/12/2025 22:38

winesolveseverything · 07/12/2025 22:24

Yes if on blue lights.

A car can pull into a bus lane to let an emergency vehicle through , providing they then exit it as soon as it has passed. You will not be prosecuted.

That is false, sorry.

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/12/2025 22:38

Sesma · 07/12/2025 21:22

You still get points and a fine

No you dont, or at least my father didnt. He contested it, the lights camera footage showed what happenend and the fine and points were cancelled.

So.....go steady with the ascertations.

GoodQueenWenceslaus · 07/12/2025 22:38

And just for reference you can hear and see an ambulance with light and sirens on from a way off so maybe you shoukd have prepared to move over before they were on you?

Often when you can hear an emergency vehicle it's difficult to work out whether it's coming in the same direction as you or not.

Climbingrosexx · 07/12/2025 22:38

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:29

Genuinely, can you not envisage any circumstances where you would cross a red light?

There were temporary traffic lights put at the end of my street a few months ago. Faulty. Stuck on red all day. I would still have been sitting there eight hours later had I not gone through them.

What would you have done? Phoned the council?

Temp lights are different, if they are stuck for an unusually long time you would then proceed with caution, there is also no solid white line that you would be crossing. We are not talking about temp lights though. We are talking about going through a red light for an emergency vehicle

XenoBitch · 07/12/2025 22:37

You did the right thing. You are not to drive through a red light, even if an ambulance is trying to push you through.

Cheezit · 07/12/2025 22:37

mrschocolatte · 07/12/2025 22:34

My brother did this recently and was fined and received points. It was money he couldn’t really afford to lose. It’s all very well being righteous and taking the moral high ground but there can be serious consequences if you’re caught. It’s a risk I wouldn’t take.

Yes. Even if there’s an ambulance caught in the camera with you they won’t reverse it. I think it’s also because the ambulance drivers won’t necessarily have the view to make the decision for a driver in front of them.

pinkksugarmouse · 07/12/2025 22:37

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:29

Genuinely, can you not envisage any circumstances where you would cross a red light?

There were temporary traffic lights put at the end of my street a few months ago. Faulty. Stuck on red all day. I would still have been sitting there eight hours later had I not gone through them.

What would you have done? Phoned the council?

I certainly hope you did contact someone. I take your point that you couldn't just wait there forever but if everyone just drives accross and doesn't report it then it won't get fixed and subsequently an accident could happen.

Periperi2025 · 07/12/2025 22:36

Paramedic here.
They should of switch sirens off and sat back until either the lights changed or the cars in front sorted themselves out a bit to create space. They should never be pressuring you to drive through a red light.

mrschocolatte · 07/12/2025 22:34

My brother did this recently and was fined and received points. It was money he couldn’t really afford to lose. It’s all very well being righteous and taking the moral high ground but there can be serious consequences if you’re caught. It’s a risk I wouldn’t take.

Cheezit · 07/12/2025 22:33

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:02

Any driver who is not able to see that, in certain circumstances, it is safe to move forward through a red light shouldn't be driving

That’s not really the point though. We are supposed to follow the law while driving. I admit that I use my own judgement and don’t always, however. I have driven onto a pavement to let an ambulance past, for example. It was safe and the traffic was not going to clear quickly. But I don’t judge people who don’t. And some people are better not doing so.

pinkksugarmouse · 07/12/2025 22:33

You were confused as to what to do so not running the red light was probably best. The last thing you should do is risk another emergency.

calkel · 07/12/2025 22:31

TootsMaHoots · 07/12/2025 22:26

What if you live near a hospital? On my school run we go through a roundabout with lights on it and there are two hospitals nearby and there are often emergency vehicles of one kind or another on it. And red light cameras. Pekoe would be paying £100, and the insurance increase on a regular basis. And losing their licences.

I don’t. So my actions are dictated by my environment, not yours.

User34445566677 · 07/12/2025 22:31

MasterBeth · 07/12/2025 22:24

Good grief! Please take this post down!

This shows exactly what happens when a) you blindly "follow the rules" rather than thinking for yourself, or b) believe Chat GPT is an alternative to Google for search queries!

You most certainly shouldn't "pull right if possible" if you're in the UK!

I'm so confused 😂 it just says you shouldn't jump a red light?? Which was my question from the start. I've read the same rules from an ambulance worker. I think people will know not to drive to the right in normal traffic lanes, but in a lot of city centres, streets with multiple lanes are one way. Good grief 🫠🫠🫠

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