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To think that some people conflate being “intellectual” with rejecting anything spiritual?

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BothAndNotEitherOr · 07/12/2025 13:38

I’ve noticed a pattern, especially in online spaces like this one, where people seem to tie their sense of intellect or rationality to a total disbelief in anything spiritual. It’s like the idea of fate, intuition, synchronicity or even a loose belief in “something more” gets lumped in with being irrational or uneducated. I’m not talking about organised religion necessarily, more the subtle stuff people feel or notice but can’t always explain.

And to be honest, a lot of the responses I’ve seen on here reinforce that vibe. If you say anything even slightly beyond logic or science, there’s an instant eye-roll or a wall of statistics.

AIBU to think that some people over-identify with being hyper-logical and that rejecting anything spiritual has become a kind of intellectual performance?

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EyeLevelStick · 07/12/2025 13:50

Do you mean “intellectual”, or do you mean “intelligent”?

WrylyAmused · 07/12/2025 13:48

Well sure. Some people do.

But a lot of what people label "spiritual" is in fact pseudo- or non- science which is provably untrue or nonsense, rather than part of the huge pool of the unknown, unexplained, awe-inspiring and possibly numinous. So sometimes the dismissal is justified if someone has more in depth scientific knowledge.

And on the other side of the divide from the hyper-rationals who dismiss anything, there are equally a lot of people who claim to be "spiritual", or "sensitive" in that kind of way, who are very happy to co-opt very fringe "scientific" opinions to provide alleged evidential support for their viewpoints, while simultaneously dismissing the 95%+ of scientific opinion which disagrees with them.

I think both sides are just expressions of a very common human approach/failing in terms of confirmation biases!

Hairylegs202S · 07/12/2025 13:47

It's more about not being credulous than being intellectual.

CurlewKate · 07/12/2025 13:45

I don’t really understand. Surely not accepting things with can’t/can’t yet be proved as fact is an automatic part of being a thinking human being? I

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 07/12/2025 13:41

No I don't agree.

Conversely, I don't know any very intelligent people who believe in woo.

SardinesOnGingerbread · 07/12/2025 13:41

I meant to tap YABU, sorry, can't change it. I think you're right, and truthfully can see that bias in myself sometimes.

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