AIBU in thinking that King Charles' passing will devastate Britain?

A new era of doing less.

No. There was a significant generational bond with Queen Elizabeth - none of that with Prince Charles as far as I can see. The monarchy became far less relevant when she passed. Not a fan of the royals in general but I really don’t see what’s to like about him and Camilla in particular. Finding ‘resilience and comfort’ in that pair is laughable 🤣 Charles hasn’t worked a day in his life.

I don't know how anyone can not find it demeaning. How can anyone think it is OK to see the spectacle of distinguished, often older, women debasing themselves by assuming an ungainly posture before some lightweight Royal which makes them look as though they are relieving themselves. What does it say about the RF's attitude towards genuine achievements and distinction that they continue to accept this?

The honours system keeps the politicians (and judges and police and anyone who might normally raise an alarm) sweet so don't count on any of them changing anything. A future knighthood or place in the House of Lords means gravy train will keep on chugging as it elevates them above the rest of the plebs. everyone wants to be special.

I was chuffed for David Beckham to get his knighthood as his family were proud, but sad he thought he needed it and chased it so hard when he has accomplished so much more just as a footballer than anyone in the current royal family ever will.

Er, no.

William will be a v different beast and usher in a whole new era (Charles has neither the time nor health for that) so I suppose that will be a period of adjustment on the occasions when anyone thinks about it.

I don't know how anyone can not find it demeaning. How can anyone think it is OK to see the spectacle of distinguished, often older, women debasing themselves by assuming an ungainly posture before some lightweight Royal which makes them look as though they are relieving themselves. What does it say about the RF's attitude towards genuine achievements and distinction that they continue to accept this?

I agree. Whats the point of it if not to demean someone? To make them lower than the person being curtseyed to and to reinforce their lower importance and rank of the curtseyer. The whole point of it is to show how deferential you are.

I don't see curtseying as demeaning to women,

My god, I do.

Why the hell would I curtsy to anyone? Just look at the pic, pathetic. Looks like she needs the toilet

I don't get that. You only see arse cheeks, ie 'builder's bum', when men are reaching up for something or bending down, not kneeling on one knee.

I don't see curtseying as demeaning to women, nor bowing as demeaning to men. It's out of date, certainly, but not demeaning as such.

To be fair to them, I'd love the opportunity to do two months work a year, live in a castle, have wads of cash and no money worries, have staff on hand to cater to my every whim and a fleet of nannies to bring up my kids too.

Joking aside, I really hope when Charles dies, there's some public consultation on the monarchy and we can work towards getting rid of them.

That’s interesting Mothership4two

Was it the OSCR 2021 investigation and findings that he had exposed the then Prince’s Trust to substantial risk in relation to uninsured paintings some of which were later found to be fake?
Or was it the alleged bullying or worse in 1998?
Or the alleged cash for citizenship and honours in 2021?
Or the alleged laundering of gifts in 2003?

that did it for you in the end? 😬

… there is so much choice, it’s hard to narrow it down I must admit… .

It’s a shame but I can’t even remember if Fawcett was involved in the £3 million in cash allegedly handed over to Charles’s royal aides in 2015 in Fortnum and Mason carrier bags by a senior Quatari politician!

Oh hang on, how silly of me, weren’t most of these alleged scandals investigated internally by Sir Michael Peat and others, and by the Met in a couple of instances, and nothing untoward was found?!
So it’s strange Fawcett ended up resigning so often. Really perplexing isn’t it?

Life in the Palace must be so colourful and fun! What larks eh?

😀

I’m not sure I am seeing a lot of drip feeding in the media now for when William takes over. They are clearly preparing the British public. I’m not sure sadly Charles has that long.

i think people also dint fully understand what William does, and think he sits around on his arse, which isn’t correct, there is a staff to run, charity work, duchy of Cornwall, correspondence etc, which all takes a lot of time when you add it all together, it really isn’t just public appearances. And he was very clear he wanted to raise his kids, before stepping into the role, which I feel is fair enough, the man will be working till he drops, the royals don’t retire at 67.

How many arse cheeks were shown when that cousin of curtesying, taking the knee, was in fashion, not so long ago. How demeaning to women that was. Thank goodness we're all equal again now.

Curtesying is inherently ridiculous, far more so than bowing. It goes back to a time when bows & curtsies were a part of everyday life and a means of showing respect to people - not particularly associated with Royalty (as can be seen in many Jane Austen adaptations). Oh and when women wore long skirts so didn't risk flashing. It has had its day.

I am surprised that more people don't pick up on how demeaning to women it is and why the RF don't put a stop to the grovelling.

@Futurehappiness

What an article! 🫨😱😮

Curtesying is inherently ridiculous, far more so than bowing. It goes back to a time when bows & curtsies were a part of everyday life and a means of showing respect to people - not particularly associated with Royalty (as can be seen in many Jane Austen adaptations). Oh and when women wore long skirts so didn't risk flashing. It has had its day.

I am surprised that more people don't pick up on how demeaning to women it is and why the RF don't put a stop to the grovelling.