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AIBU in thinking that King Charles' passing will devastate Britain?

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monrymeadows73 · 07/12/2025 10:28

If you remember back when Queen Elizabeth II died, how upset most British people were and how it caused some social insecurity as many British people saw her as a sense of strength and a rock due to her continuity and longevity, but with her gone, they weren't sure how Britain would fare. Hence, the large crowds of mourners and a lot of upset.

King Charles III - though not as admired as Queen Elizabeth was - also has longevity and a sense of continuity in a different way: not as monarch since he's only been in the role for three years, but as a royal figure, i.e. he has been in the spotlight since the 1940s and conducting royal duties since the 1960s. When he dies, will Britain finally feel as though the older generation of royals - who for so long have provided reassurance and comfort to the British people - have gone?

Will this lead to a lot of soul-searching about where next Britain must go and perhaps cause social tensions due to the insecurity of identity? Who will the British look to to guide the nation from then on? Who will be their new rock?

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Skater78 · 07/12/2025 11:09

I think the concept of the royal family is a disgrace in modern times. It goes against the idea of working hard for reward and supports class privilege by birth. They waft around in their huge houses which are not earned. I know this happens with other very wealthy people but at least we don’t have our noses rubbed in it or have to subsidise their weddings and funerals.
I was sad for the queens passing on a level of her being someone I was very familiar of. I don’t have any ill will for them personally, they are human and fuck up according.
the whole concept of them morally leading the nation really gets my back up, they don’t, nor should they. They have been born to a life of insane privilege, what right should they have to project any morality over the rest of us, when they do not walk in our shoes.

weegielass · 07/12/2025 11:09

I'd be sad as I'm a royalist and probably watch the funeral as I like a bit of historical pomp (I studied royal history as part of my history degree)

But I don't think the public grief will be as much as for QE2 (nation's granny, longest running monarch) compared to KC3 (who may only be king for like 10-20 years). Diana's public mourning was OTT but that was because it was sudden and young.

CatPawsAreCute · 07/12/2025 11:08

LidlAmaretto · 07/12/2025 11:02

Agree. So do I actually. I quite like Charles but I think he was an absent father and both William and Harry are the same- spoilt, lazy and entitled. One just has better PR and all the cash.

My belief is that without the PR and good management William would have been quite a bit like Harry if let loose. I think William is actually far more entitled.

KilliMonjaro · 07/12/2025 11:07

No.

LidlAmaretto · 07/12/2025 11:07

Cheese55 · 07/12/2025 11:00

So does this mean he does less and can have the privacy they all seem to crave Apart from the unmentionable one!

He can't if hes King. They have plenty of privacy- they do about 2 months ' work' a year and are shut away in various castles and massive estates or on private holidays the rest of the time. They may say they want an ordinary life but as Harry has shown, they dont want ' ordinary' bills or an ordinary salary!

CathyorClaire · 07/12/2025 11:06

FenceBooksCycle · 07/12/2025 10:47

If you aren't a royalist, then it would be hope that the rumors that he plans to massively cut down on the civil list and reduce the parasitism from the wider royal family might be true?

I'd love to see a fixed price Civil List as an interim measure prior to dissolving the monarchy entirely but I think you may mean the Sovereign Grant?

I haven't seen any reports W intends to reduce his take from the public purse and while I'd hope he might reduce the numbers of hangers on the process has been agonisingly slow so far and it's hard to see him getting off his lazy arse to speed it up.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 07/12/2025 11:06

Slightyamusedandsilly · 07/12/2025 10:38

Nope. He's weak and irrelevant. The next one will be angry / stroppy and irrelevant.

QE was sensible and respected. Neither of the blokes following her are those things.

I don't agree that QE was respected for who she truly was.

She exploited the fact that she had been on the throne for so long - and thus of course came to the throne when she was young - and mass misogyny seems to make people look more kindly and patronisingly on a queen than they tend to for a king.

People saw her as a non-threatening little old 'nation's grandma' rather than as a powerful leader - which she took advantage of, even though she - like all British monarchs - actually had immense power (greatly downplayed for the public) and perpetrated and allowed many outrageous things in all of her decades.

pictoosh · 07/12/2025 11:05

Nah not really. There are those who don't care about the monarchy...and those who do will be delighted to have Wills and Kate at the helm.

ComedyGuns · 07/12/2025 11:05

My mum always said that they gave stability to this country and stopped it descending into a fascist state, which I thought was a really good point.

However, Prince William has grown up with social media and cancel culture and seems very aware that they are now a public relations brand, which is the opposite of stable.

mbosnz · 07/12/2025 11:05

Why would the passing of one pale, male and stale devastate the country? Increasingly, they are irrelevant, and showing themselves to be the overprivileged waste of time, space and money that they are.

LBFseBrom · 07/12/2025 11:05

King Charles is a year older than me. I don't think about him popping his clogs at the moment. His cancer seems to be well under control, his age went in his favour for that. I can see him lasting another ten years if he takes care of himself. Why think about it in advance? Nobody much thought of the late queen's demise until she was past 90 and she did pretty well almost up to the last, as did her husband.

When it happens there will be much pageantry for a while, then William will be king and back to business as usual. The royals don't really affect us.

CatPawsAreCute · 07/12/2025 11:05

ilovesooty · 07/12/2025 10:58

I agree. I actually have more respect for Charles than I have for William.

Me too! Charles actually has something resembling a work ethic, his sister too.

Like someone has said we only see William (and Catherine) when they're doing stuff they enjoy. They won't do the dull things because 'family life'.

William's natural role is a regional manager for some corporation or other, with his wife doing the necessary home stuff and hosting dinner parties. Whereas I can imagine Charles or Anne as CEOs.

Laplands · 07/12/2025 11:03

ilovesooty · 07/12/2025 11:02

I won't. Idle parasite. He'll do less work than the generations before him. I respect Princess Anne's work ethic and that's it. William seems only interested in the privilege without doing anything in return.

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ilovesooty · 07/12/2025 11:03

AliTheMinx · 07/12/2025 10:59

Exactly this. I think William will be an outstanding monarch and Kate will be a wonderful support to him.

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LidlAmaretto · 07/12/2025 11:02

ilovesooty · 07/12/2025 10:58

I agree. I actually have more respect for Charles than I have for William.

Agree. So do I actually. I quite like Charles but I think he was an absent father and both William and Harry are the same- spoilt, lazy and entitled. One just has better PR and all the cash.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 07/12/2025 11:02

A royal family in an equal society makes no logical sense.

ilovesooty · 07/12/2025 11:02

Laplands · 07/12/2025 10:57

I like the Royal Family. I'll feel sad, I'll mourn with the nation. But will be excited to see William as King.

I won't. Idle parasite. He'll do less work than the generations before him. I respect Princess Anne's work ethic and that's it. William seems only interested in the privilege without doing anything in return.

ComedyGuns · 07/12/2025 11:01

Are you in your late 80s?

ByWisePanda · 07/12/2025 11:01

LiftAndLetLift · 07/12/2025 10:49

I think people will be excited to see William as King.

William has no personality or Kate they remind me of sea squirts. They will do and say anything to keep the pound notes coming.

Cheese55 · 07/12/2025 11:00

LidlAmaretto · 07/12/2025 10:55

Less work, fewer people, no reduction in houses or financial and other privileges is my guess, going by what he has done as PoW. Hes gone backwards on what his father did- which was declare his taxes- which can only mean he pays less. He does a minimal amout of 'royal duties- mostly sporting events and glamorous dinners and quite a lot of work to enrich himself via the Duchy of Cornwall. Im not sure why people expect him to be so amazing. Its all PR puff. The whole ' Oh William and Kate cant stand to be near Andrew' yet hes moving onto the Sandringham Estate where one of their other houses is!

So does this mean he does less and can have the privacy they all seem to crave Apart from the unmentionable one!

lazyarse123 · 07/12/2025 11:00

Witheringlights · 07/12/2025 10:53

All I know is that our joint nations simply cannot afford another:

£162 million spent on a funeral

plus

£72 million spent on another Coronation.

Not while our elderly parents are being treated in hospital corridors. We need to get our priorities straight.

This.
I don't care other than thinking that it's sad for his family.
The one thing I didn't mind when it was the Queens funeral was working in the shop, it was closed, getting loads of stuff done in 2 hours and then going home and getting paid for 7 hours.
I'm not a subscriber to performative grieving. Bad enough when it's someone that people actually know, cringeworthy when they don't.

AliTheMinx · 07/12/2025 10:59

Laplands · 07/12/2025 10:57

I like the Royal Family. I'll feel sad, I'll mourn with the nation. But will be excited to see William as King.

Exactly this. I think William will be an outstanding monarch and Kate will be a wonderful support to him.

LiteraryBambi · 07/12/2025 10:59

Same

LiteraryBambi · 07/12/2025 10:59

Kamek · 07/12/2025 10:32

I want them.all gone, permanently

Same

millypeggyandpandora · 07/12/2025 10:59

The OP hasn’t returned, so I think it’s a wind up, ( nobody is that naive)