Page 11 | AIBU in thinking that King Charles' passing will devastate Britain?

monrymeadows73 · 2025-12-07T10:28:23+00:00

If you remember back when Queen Elizabeth II died, how upset most British people were and how it caused some social insecurity as many British people saw her as a sense of strength and a rock due to her continuity and longevity, but with her gone, they weren't sure how Britain would fare. Hence, the large crowds of mourners and a lot of upset. King Charles III - though not as admired as Queen Elizabeth was - also has longevity and a sense of continuity in a different way: not as monarch since he's only been in the role for three years, but as a royal figure, i.e. he has been in the spotlight since the 1940s and conducting royal duties since the 1960s. When he dies, will Britain finally feel as though the older generation of royals - who for so long have provided reassurance and comfort to the British people - have gone? Will this lead to a lot of soul-searching about where next Britain must go and perhaps cause social tensions due to the insecurity of identity? Who will the British look to to guide the nation from then on? Who will be their new rock?

jumpingthehighjump · 08/12/2025 15:39

The big difference between Liz and Charlie's coronation was numbers,
apart from that it was the same

For QE2 they built wooden tiered seating for the 8,000 guests. Of course they couldn't do that because of health and safety so there were only 2,000 at Charlie's

SerendipityJane · 08/12/2025 15:38

Gallowayan · 08/12/2025 15:36

No of course not.The royal family are a useless shower of piss takers who are a huge embarassment to this country.

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On the contrary. They are a perfect advert for this country. No other country in the world has achieved the wealth of the UK and retained a monarchy.

Why do you think our public schools are so attractive to foreign oligarchs ? It won't be the cooking or the weather.

Gallowayan · 08/12/2025 15:36

No of course not.The royal family are a useless shower of piss takers who are a huge embarassment to this country.

SerendipityJane · 08/12/2025 15:31

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 15:09

"Most people"?? I don't know anyone who had a coronation party let alone looked forward to one. Thankfully I move in the social circles that don't celebrate such nonsense.

I think it's a national embarrassment the amount of tax payers money we use to fund such occasions including that of royal weddings and funerals.

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Charles coronation is a stark comparison to Elizabeths from what I have seen.

My late DM remember 1953 and could remember bits for the grandkids right the way up to 2013 when she was lost to dementia.

I really can't remember what I was doing (has to go and check) 6th June 2023. (And rather symboically, I can remember where I was when I learned Diana was dead).

Pedallleur · 08/12/2025 15:28

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 15:21

To be fair to them, I'd love the opportunity to do two months work a year, live in a castle, have wads of cash and no money worries, have staff on hand to cater to my every whim and a fleet of nannies to bring up my kids too.

Joking aside, I really hope when Charles dies, there's some public consultation on the monarchy and we can work towards getting rid of them.

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The turkeys aren't going to vote for Christmas. Move along now, nothing to see here.

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 15:21

LidlAmaretto · 07/12/2025 11:07

He can't if hes King. They have plenty of privacy- they do about 2 months ' work' a year and are shut away in various castles and massive estates or on private holidays the rest of the time. They may say they want an ordinary life but as Harry has shown, they dont want ' ordinary' bills or an ordinary salary!

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To be fair to them, I'd love the opportunity to do two months work a year, live in a castle, have wads of cash and no money worries, have staff on hand to cater to my every whim and a fleet of nannies to bring up my kids too.

Joking aside, I really hope when Charles dies, there's some public consultation on the monarchy and we can work towards getting rid of them.

randomchap · 08/12/2025 15:12

It'll bring the country together, as long as we get a couple of days off to mourn/go down the pub

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 15:09

BeMintFatball · 07/12/2025 10:45

I think most people will look forward to the next coronation party but not really mourn Charles. I don’t think William will do a good job as I don’t think it’s a job he wants. I wouldn’t want it either.

I will be sad when Princess Anne dies. Best Queen we will never have.

"Most people"?? I don't know anyone who had a coronation party let alone looked forward to one. Thankfully I move in the social circles that don't celebrate such nonsense.

I think it's a national embarrassment the amount of tax payers money we use to fund such occasions including that of royal weddings and funerals.

Witheringlights · 08/12/2025 14:39

CatPawsAreCute · 08/12/2025 13:58

Ah yes! I’d totally forgotten about The Paradise Papers which revealed how the late Queen and KC invested millions in offshore funds some of which ended up in controversial businesses; even though technically they were legal and taxed voluntarily, didn’t they raise some ethical concerns?

Don't be silly, as if the queen and charles would do such a thing!

That was their staff acting on their behalf. They wouldn't have known how dodgy it was, the staff wouldn't have bothered them with that sort of detail. It's not their fault.

No, we must concentrate on the hard work they do, personally on everything that is good, such as the environment and homelessness, and spending time in nature.

How silly of you to forget that the bad stuff they won't have known anything about, and that they work incredibly hard just on good stuff.

Re: the children's nature hub, of course Catherine won't have known anything about that! And after all, it's just a few acres that's closed off, just for privacy, and we all deserve privacy don't we, every ordinary family does.

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Yes <head slap> of course!

And my memory is so bad it’s completely slipped my mind the number of occasions that crop up when finances are shown to be a a little murky but of course the usual rules that apply to the rest of us, don’t apply to the royals, because it’s either private wealth that is none of our business, or wealth which is apparently for the public good ie investing in public buildings! But we are never quite sure where one starts and the other begins!

And yet this lack of transparency somehow isn’t acceptable for others holding public office?

VanessaSanessa · 08/12/2025 14:19

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 14:07

I never understand this argument. Why would an unelected head of state bring stability to a country? Many countries which report the highest levels if satisfaction and happiness such as Finland don't have royal families.

If monarchies provided such stability, then the world would still be dominated by monarchist nations. Which it isn't. And anyway we have a constitutional monarchy in this country and it makes the head of state constitutionally pointless. Their neutrality has no value when they are told what to do by the prime minister.

I find it hard to see how they bring unity to the country to the country and in fact they highlight inequality and division to me. People get up in arms in the amount of money spent on people on benefits yet here we are in a cost of living crisis, with public services in desperate need of cash spending hundreds of millions of pounds on taxpayers money funding a family who already have enormous amounts of private wealth and a staggering property portfolio. Why not the same outrage about this?

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Agree and not only are they funded by the taxpayer, they do not follow the laws of the land like everyone else.

I'd also love to know how they amassed their private wealth and massive property portfolio. It wasn't from an honest day's work that's for sure.

SerendipityJane · 08/12/2025 14:15

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 14:07

I never understand this argument. Why would an unelected head of state bring stability to a country? Many countries which report the highest levels if satisfaction and happiness such as Finland don't have royal families.

If monarchies provided such stability, then the world would still be dominated by monarchist nations. Which it isn't. And anyway we have a constitutional monarchy in this country and it makes the head of state constitutionally pointless. Their neutrality has no value when they are told what to do by the prime minister.

I find it hard to see how they bring unity to the country to the country and in fact they highlight inequality and division to me. People get up in arms in the amount of money spent on people on benefits yet here we are in a cost of living crisis, with public services in desperate need of cash spending hundreds of millions of pounds on taxpayers money funding a family who already have enormous amounts of private wealth and a staggering property portfolio. Why not the same outrage about this?

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History suggests that Britains place in the world (whatever that may be) is in spite of the monarch, rather than because of it.

The less control the monarch had the (admittedly slowly) better things got.

Until recently I would have suggested that the US was the logical proof of this. However now they've revived the monarchy, I may have to reassess that.

Let's see how well they do with their Kings. (I can't see them having a Queen anytime soon*)

*You made that dirty in your own heads.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 08/12/2025 14:15

Charles seems decent but is no way as popular as the Queen was! I also think he has a not so nice side, remember he refused to speak to Harry for a long time after Megxit. (I think they have spoken now)
Many people loved Diana and see a lot of her in William, and Kate has definitely earned her stripes by now. They will be much more popular than Charles and Camilla.

Punkerplus · 08/12/2025 14:07

MontyPy · 07/12/2025 20:42

I would feel sad. I feel the monarchy gives a sense of stability to this country and deaths can weaken it. I’d rather have stability so me and my young adult children can get on with our lives without the potential of more upheaval.

Of course Britain isn’t perfect but that isn’t the fault of the Royal Family. I think overall life for my family through the generations has got better and I feel the stability of the monarchy contributes to that in some small way.

We need to be united as a country not have more division. Singapore did well due to being united under a mission. Instead of hate we need to unite. And the monarchy contributes to that.

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I never understand this argument. Why would an unelected head of state bring stability to a country? Many countries which report the highest levels if satisfaction and happiness such as Finland don't have royal families.

If monarchies provided such stability, then the world would still be dominated by monarchist nations. Which it isn't. And anyway we have a constitutional monarchy in this country and it makes the head of state constitutionally pointless. Their neutrality has no value when they are told what to do by the prime minister.

I find it hard to see how they bring unity to the country to the country and in fact they highlight inequality and division to me. People get up in arms in the amount of money spent on people on benefits yet here we are in a cost of living crisis, with public services in desperate need of cash spending hundreds of millions of pounds on taxpayers money funding a family who already have enormous amounts of private wealth and a staggering property portfolio. Why not the same outrage about this?

Witheringlights · 08/12/2025 14:04

PenelopeSkye · 08/12/2025 07:05

They are, in general, a dysfunctional family (the whole premise of being so on show makes it almost impossible not to be, the scrutiny over the lives of young children who have no say over it borders on abusive), who are still revered by a small number of people who think wealth and power are the only way to be happy or respected. The country did feel a sense of sadness when the Queen died, but this was more mourning the loss of a feeling- a nostalgia for a lost time, than actually sadness about her as an individual. Charles dying will not have that same effect. The media need content so of course will make a huge deal out of it. The vast majority of people will be entirely unaffected.

Can I just say, totally agree on the scrutiny of young children being completely off whack,

And the most threat comes from their fans!

I caught a bit of footage on the news of Catherine, William and their dc leaving the carol concert the other night, and I was really shocked by the barrage of flashing cameras and unhinged screaming from the crowd that they were subject to in the short time it took them to exit the church and get in to their car.

Utterly insane, poor kids! I’m sure their parents do everything they can to protect them but growing up in a world where everyone has a camera phone and where AI prevails, is not going to be much fun, to put it mildly.

CatPawsAreCute · 08/12/2025 13:58

Ah yes! I’d totally forgotten about The Paradise Papers which revealed how the late Queen and KC invested millions in offshore funds some of which ended up in controversial businesses; even though technically they were legal and taxed voluntarily, didn’t they raise some ethical concerns?

Don't be silly, as if the queen and charles would do such a thing!

That was their staff acting on their behalf. They wouldn't have known how dodgy it was, the staff wouldn't have bothered them with that sort of detail. It's not their fault.

No, we must concentrate on the hard work they do, personally on everything that is good, such as the environment and homelessness, and spending time in nature.

How silly of you to forget that the bad stuff they won't have known anything about, and that they work incredibly hard just on good stuff.

Re: the children's nature hub, of course Catherine won't have known anything about that! And after all, it's just a few acres that's closed off, just for privacy, and we all deserve privacy don't we, every ordinary family does.

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Witheringlights · 08/12/2025 13:48

IsawwhatIsaw · 08/12/2025 10:07

And how he and the late Queen kept millions in offshore trusts investing in dodgy companies.
And how they both allegedly lobbied government ministers for tax advantages for their huge estates.

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Ah yes! I’d totally forgotten about The Paradise Papers which revealed how the late Queen and KC invested millions in offshore funds some of which ended up in controversial businesses; even though technically they were legal and taxed voluntarily, didn’t they raise some ethical concerns?

I think the exploitation of vulnerable families was one area of concern in relation to one of the Queen’s finds? And wasn’t one of Charles’s chosen funds run by a friend of his as I recall leading to questions about conflicts of interests. And another which invested in environmental projects I believe?

The revelations prompted calls for greater transparency in managing royal finances, as these offshore details weren't in public records.

Does anyone know if any more transparent practices were put in place after that?

HelpMeGetThrough · 08/12/2025 13:28

BeMintFatball · 07/12/2025 10:45

I think most people will look forward to the next coronation party but not really mourn Charles. I don’t think William will do a good job as I don’t think it’s a job he wants. I wouldn’t want it either.

I will be sad when Princess Anne dies. Best Queen we will never have.

William doesn’t want any job, he just wants to jet around the world babbling on about earthshot or cumshot, whatever it’s called.

HelpMeGetThrough · 08/12/2025 13:15

New rock? I don’t consider any of them that. Certainty a few cocks amongst them.

I won’t be devastated when Charlie goes, wasn’t when the Diana, Philip or the Queen went. Zero impact on my life and gave it no thought.

Will give the news channels something new to bang on about though.

LidlAmaretto · 08/12/2025 13:00

Futurehappiness · 08/12/2025 12:36

This. I don't know on what basis people conclude that W and K are 'good people'.

The signs are not good I'm afraid. W like his father has been shown to be making millions through profiteering from charities & public services, he is even more secretive about his taxes than his father was. The latest is that W & K evicted tenants to make way for their 'forever home' and have also put up a no go zone barring the public from about 150 acres of what was previously public land. This included the closure of a children's nature hub.

It makes K's soft focus videos supporting outdoor education & access to nature look a little hollow doesn't it? So I will need a lot more convincing to believe they are any less dysfunctional than the rest of the family.

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Yes wasn't one of Kates groundbreaking Early childhood revelations that no one had ever come up with before that you should take your kids out in nature? Clearly the plebs kids don't count- just her kids. Are they going to pay for the children's nature hub to be moved somewhere else in the park or is she just going to waft around another wood?

LidlAmaretto · 08/12/2025 12:57

SheilaFentiman · 08/12/2025 12:47

She must be used to it by now, what with the threads about how we had an empire so why do people want to reverse Brexit, and the like…

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oh! Its her!

Upsetbetty · 08/12/2025 12:49

Aaah I remember the Queens death fondly…my ex In-laws we’re visiting (they were in their 70’a) and I took great pleasure in popping my head into the room and declaring “Queens dead” and then leaving 😂😂😂😂

SheilaFentiman · 08/12/2025 12:47

SerendipityJane · 08/12/2025 12:10

I don't think it went the OPs way ...

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She must be used to it by now, what with the threads about how we had an empire so why do people want to reverse Brexit, and the like…

Futurehappiness · 08/12/2025 12:36

ChloeMorningstar · 08/12/2025 10:19

William and Kate are good people. William is a chip off the old block in terms of his mother. And their kids are adorable too.

And you know this how? We don't know these people, we only know what they and the media choose to share. We also didnt know his mother.

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This. I don't know on what basis people conclude that W and K are 'good people'.

The signs are not good I'm afraid. W like his father has been shown to be making millions through profiteering from charities & public services, he is even more secretive about his taxes than his father was. The latest is that W & K evicted tenants to make way for their 'forever home' and have also put up a no go zone barring the public from about 150 acres of what was previously public land. This included the closure of a children's nature hub.

It makes K's soft focus videos supporting outdoor education & access to nature look a little hollow doesn't it? So I will need a lot more convincing to believe they are any less dysfunctional than the rest of the family.

Futurehappiness · 08/12/2025 12:24

The idea that I would be 'upset' or 'devastated' when a monarch passes just makes me smile OP. The late Queen passed away in her 90s, at the end of an immensely privileged and comfortable life. That is much more than most other people have.

I suppose it is sad for them though that they can't take their riches and privilege with them & have to leave it all behind.

SerendipityJane · 08/12/2025 12:10

VanessaSanessa · 08/12/2025 12:07

Ah this thread is a breath of fresh air to my Republican heart. Good to see the majority of people are capable of critically thinking about this lazy bunch of twats.

I don't think it went the OPs way ...