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To expect my very bright, autistic kid to not fail his SATS?

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2024namechanger · 07/12/2025 08:33

My child has always been greater depth, and quite a way into it so teachers have said. His siblings are all academic scholars and he is noticeably brighter than them. He mastered reading in a week when he was 3, that sort of thing. We haven’t done anything to particularly push his intelligence; he is emotionally immature and has had social struggles so all my attention is on that. I have very bright siblings who were pushed and then didn’t achieve as adults so have tried to break this trend! My whole family are neurodivergent which I think has a massive impact on ability to achieve.

Child diagnosed in the summer, this brought him a lot of peace, and classroom issues settled down; everything going great and he stopped using aids like ear defenders. (They are on the side in his classroom so remain accessible; his choice entirely). So far they have had a couple of mock SATS which he has got below expected, which is a complete shock. His teacher is mystified and thinks maybe he’s not trying; I’m not so sure. I asked a tutor friend to meet him, she did some CAT4s with him and said he’s clearly very bright. I have done some maths with him at home; he gets it. It’s not hard for him. He reads constantly.

I’m not too bothered about SATS. But. It is my expectation that he joins his siblings at private school next year, for which he would need a bursary dependent on scholarship. He wants to go, the classes are much smaller and calmer and the clubs are in line with his interests; warhammer etc. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if he doesn’t get in but I am also wondering about him achieving in exams going forwards.

Is it likely that this is linked to his autism? It just seems such a shame if he can’t reach his potential. I am autistic and never reached my potential, but was still able to perform fine in tests, just nothing stunning. I was hoping for more for my kids.

I have posted in AIBU for traffic, hopefully other parents who have encountered the same? Or teachers with specialism? Anyone have any advice?

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Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 12:37

I'd he doesn't want defenders, my DC like the loops but you may need to request to the exam board he can wear them

2024namechanger · 07/12/2025 12:34

Reading everything - sorry I have to pop out so proper reply later but in short;
SATS are the only tests he has ever done. The entrance exams are similar in style hence are showing that he can’t translate his intellect; this is my concern.
ADHD (or ADD) he is on the waiting list. He is fairly impulsive.
Anxiety; he has some anxiety which he doesn’t tend to share. He feels no pressure about the locks. First set he laughed about the result and said they were only mocks. Second set he said he didn’t have enough time. Just asked him - he said he didn’t finish. I definitely need to look at the papers thanks.
sorry for poor wording - no child can fail yes. But for him, it is bizarre to be below expected in all maths and English when he has always been in greater depth in terms of classwork, all sch reports etc. I have seen his school work; it’s good.
Ear defenders - he was incredibly upset and anxious pre-diagnosis. Said he felt disabled, felt different, looked different, lots of things. When the diagnosis came in, it brought a complete calm, he has announced he no longer feels disabled. I think he understands he needs extra support with some things due to autism, not that there’s something ‘wrong’. He recognises that there are aids there, but doesn’t feel he needs them. I didn’t even know he’d stopped using them til parents evening. He talks about being grateful they’re there though.

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Justploddingonandon · 07/12/2025 12:26

My autistic DD is also academically ahead ( possibly not as far as your DS) but needs extra time in exams as she has a slower processing speed. She also sits them in a separate room with a small group and can have movement breaks when she needs. She’s only year 5 now so not doing formal exams, but this helps and will be in place for her SATS.
it’s not clear if the school you’re looking at is academically selective, but we ruled out grammar school for DD as between the slow processing and the pressure it would be too much for her. Selective schools move fast (DS is at one so I know) and don’t have lower sets for those who are struggling.

Soontobe60 · 07/12/2025 11:46

Your DS is only in the 1st term of Y6 and most children at this stage don’t score as highly in their SATs as they do in the actual assessment. Give him a break!
Also, there’s no pass or fail, just a raw score and standardised score with Greater Depth, Expected and Below Expected reported.
I’m curious though - how come he no longer uses ear defenders now he has a diagnosis?

noblegiraffe · 07/12/2025 11:40

Have you asked your son? He will presumably have some insight into how he did and what the issues were.

sittingonabeach · 07/12/2025 11:22

The reasonable adjustments have to be something that have been used previously not just for final tests.

Schools do assessment tests regularly, how has he done in them in the past?

Needlenardlenoo · 07/12/2025 11:15

Key stage 2 test administration guidance - GOV.UK https://share.google/r7EDc8FAMACXmf3OS

Found it! If you scroll down to 7.3 the separate room part is covered.

oneinataxioneinacar · 07/12/2025 11:07

Have all his siblings got scholarships already?
It seems a lot to expect to send all your children privately and have it subsidised by bursaries

Araminta1003 · 07/12/2025 11:04

DS1 is autistic but also has OCD and gets anxious and obsessive about tests. Did extremely well in SATS and grammar tests. I spent years reading to him and with him as I felt strongly his inference skills needed help, not just for exams but life in general.

Needlenardlenoo · 07/12/2025 10:57

2026 key stage 2 access arrangements guidance - GOV.UK https://share.google/wjlaC3H8Idvtyt1YO

This is the school guidance.

PlasticTr33s · 07/12/2025 10:52

Have you looked at the papers? The reading and maths reasoning ones aren’t a walk in
the park . What are his inference skills like? Can he apply maths skills?What is his focus like? ASC and ADHD can go hand in hand. ADHD can have a huge impact on SATS.

Genevieva · 07/12/2025 10:34

Private schools don’t care about SATs. They don’t do them. Presumably he has already taken an 11+ exam and his place will be confirmed shortly.

My eldest is High functioning ASD and super bright. 10 grade 9s at GCSE etc. In Y6 I wasn’t thinking about SATs at all. I was thinking about his social skills, executive functions and how he would manage a transition from a tiny village school with mixed year group classrooms and a world in which he’d known everyone since Reception or playgroup, to a big senior school further afield. He’s now at an even bigger sixth form college and really thriving.

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 07/12/2025 10:30

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 07/12/2025 09:44

Agree with fxl on this. If he's generally doing well at school, but got a low mark on the SATs, it suggests there's something worth investigating.
It's fairly common for autistic people to have a slower processing speed, for example, which would definitely have an impact on timed exams.
It would be good to know his exact profile so you can work out what kind of support is needed.

ITA too. Poor working memory can also go hand in hand with other types of SEN, such as autism, ADHD, dyslexia, language disorder, etc.

Was DS achieving in line with his high intelligence in the classroom; and the SATs results have come as a big shock? Or was he underachieving in class, before the SATs?

Needlenardlenoo · 07/12/2025 10:22

Trentdarkmore · 07/12/2025 09:32

Just my experience.
I'm autistic and in my fifties.
When I was 7 we did county-wide Maths tests and my results showed me to be what was then called ESN (educationally subnormal 🙄). I was made to repeat rhe test and the same thing happened. Then my mother instructed me to answer the questions exactly as they appeared and not overthink them. On the third attempt I got the top results for the county.
Apparently I thought for some reason that the questions couldn't possibly be straightforward, and so made up my own methods of answering them.
I.would get him to practise answering test papers with you, checking he understands exactly what they are asking. Standardised tests don't seem to be designed for nwueodivergsnr thinkers.

Oh my goodness, this sounds like the sort of thing that used to happen to (autistic) DH.

More positively, he got over 100% for one of his Science O levels because he was bored so re-answered one of the questions using a different method...

YourJoyousDenimExpert · 07/12/2025 10:00

I am a bit unsure how you think the SATS wil relate to a bursary for private school. Where I am, the private schools hold entrance exams in January (way before SATS in May) and scholarships and bursaries are considered based on the results of these. By the time SATS are done, secondary places are already determined.
Is your son doing an entrance exam?

Applespearsandpeaches · 07/12/2025 09:44

Which SATs - all of them? My very bright autistic child struggled with the reading, despite being a decent reader - in part because there’s questions that require things like inferring feelings or motivations - “why did X do Y?”, my child responded along the lines of “I’m not X and it doesn’t say why so how would I know”. They also struggle with things they don’t see the point of, so large swathes of the grammar paper they struggled to do because they were so cross at being asked to do something so pointless.

Have you asked for copies of his mock papers? I read my child’s papers which was quite illuminating and we were able to work on some things at home. I also focused on maths and reading - huge parts of the SPAG paper are deathly boring and, bar spelling, of very little use later on.

Child did sit the papers alone in a quiet room which helped enormously with distraction - because this was a fairly common adjustment for them anyway in their day to day work school didn’t even need permission, it’s regarded as their normal way of working. It does require a room and spare adults though which I imagine some schools might not have.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 07/12/2025 09:44

Agree with fxl on this. If he's generally doing well at school, but got a low mark on the SATs, it suggests there's something worth investigating.
It's fairly common for autistic people to have a slower processing speed, for example, which would definitely have an impact on timed exams.
It would be good to know his exact profile so you can work out what kind of support is needed.

ExtraOnions · 07/12/2025 09:41

DD is 19, ASD, very bright … had I know what a terrible effect those end of Primary School SATS would have on her self-esteem and confidence, I would have withdrawn her.
Having to go to “extra lessons” for English, led to years of believing she was “terrible at English”, and I honestly believe it’s partly what led to Aniexty, EBSA, and missing Y10&Y11

You can choose for him not to take them.. seriously consider it.

fxl · 07/12/2025 09:36

You might find it helpful to get an educational psychologist’s report, which should do an independent assessment of your child’s learning abilities/profile and suggest the reasonable adjustments which should best support him

Trentdarkmore · 07/12/2025 09:32

Just my experience.
I'm autistic and in my fifties.
When I was 7 we did county-wide Maths tests and my results showed me to be what was then called ESN (educationally subnormal 🙄). I was made to repeat rhe test and the same thing happened. Then my mother instructed me to answer the questions exactly as they appeared and not overthink them. On the third attempt I got the top results for the county.
Apparently I thought for some reason that the questions couldn't possibly be straightforward, and so made up my own methods of answering them.
I.would get him to practise answering test papers with you, checking he understands exactly what they are asking. Standardised tests don't seem to be designed for nwueodivergsnr thinkers.

TeenToTwenties · 07/12/2025 09:32

I agree with @BusMumsHoliday . My eldest had a lot of trouble with GCSE English Language 'why did the writer ...' sort of questions. i had to teach her a process for some questions to blindly follow to come up with something.

BusMumsHoliday · 07/12/2025 09:30

Whoevenarethey · 07/12/2025 09:21

Not sure what you mean by making sure he has understood the questions - a reader can be used but they have to be very careful to use a neutral tone throughout the paper and there are certain rules regarding explaining anything. Also if it's the reading paper then no one gets a reader for this and an adult can just sit there to enable movement breaks if that's what is required.

You can teach children to understand questions. Sometimes autistic kids need very specific, atypical instructions. My much younger DS can struggles with "what do you think will happen next?" questions, and he'll say "I don't know" - because in his head, how can anyone know what will happen next, it's not a recall fact. But what helps is explicitly reminding him that he's not expected to locate this information in the story. In time, he'll learn that this is what the question wants him to do, even if that leap is never innate.

BusMumsHoliday · 07/12/2025 09:25

You and the teacher need to work out what is going on in the mock tests. Is he sitting there doing nothing (which may not be not trying!) or is he getting answers wrong, misunderstanding questions etc?

I have a very bright much younger autistic child. Sometimes he'll get so fixated on a mistake he's made or the possibility of a mistake, that he literally can't continue with the work. Other autistic children will misinterpret questions, or zone out and need prompting, or need help allocating time to individual questions. You might be able to put special exam arrangements in place to help.

Hensandhearth · 07/12/2025 09:25

My son is sounds so similar he is academically very bright, autistic and socially young. He is now in year 7 but he found all of year 6 so so hard emotionally.

He also took every stats pep talk to heart and got anxious. For him the changes to the classroom for mock stats ( covered display boards, moved desk ect) really ramped his panic. In school his was the same eager student but late at night at home he was so distressed.

For him what worked was taking the papers in a different room in a small group. Also a bit more practise of how to read stats questions and learning good exam technique was helpful. At home we removed any pressure and reassured him that as long as he did his best all would well.

Checknotmymate · 07/12/2025 09:23

Sounds like you need to work on exam technique. Speed is tricky. We've had 11+ to get through with my Nd DC and while the content was fine doing that content 30 seconds per question was a steep learning curve!