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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 15:19

Let me preface by saying I've got ASD and rejection sensitivity is a huge thing for me, as well as needing plans to be as concrete as possible and not changed.

So for context I've known my friend about 3-4 years, she has a beauty business and I started off just as a client. We tend to just catch up before/after appointments with a coffee or occasionally over the phone, but rarely go out together. However I was also the only friend who didn't flake on her 30th birthday night out (this is important). She's often really flaky with plans full stop (not just with me).

It was my 40th celebration last week and her babysitter let her down on the day. She managed to arrange another sitter who could only come later and said she would meet us at the venue (luckily it was a big group). Not only did she not turn up but she didn't message to let me know. I got a message on the night so say her and her ex (replacement babysitter) had had a huge row and he left - she claimed to have written a text but forgotten to press send - I can only give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

So I saw her yesterday and to make up for last week she offered to take me for a meal at 6pm today - I booked a table. She was on a Christmas do last night but promised she wouldn't be out late, and we discussed outfits for tonight, etc.

I've text her and now tried to call and no response, so have cancelled the table. I really feel like giving her a piece of my mind but I don't want to lose one of the few friendships I have. She's also booked on a group holiday for my birthday too so not sure how that will pan out...

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Pineapplewaves · 06/12/2025 20:06

Don’t give her back the £90.00 she paid for your birthday, if she can no longer go or says she has to drop out (which sounds likely) then it’s tough, unless you can give her her money back with no penalty to you.

If you booked the holiday see if you can remove her from the booking, the earlier you do it the less it will cost you. The Lead passenger will need to do it.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 20:05

In terms of the holiday it's a monthly payment that I'm paying (regardless if she pays me) - the two others who might add on are trying to get pregnant so wouldn't know if they can come until nearer the time.

@Carycach4 I'm not sure what you mean?

@THisbackwithavengeance do casual friends agree to come on a holiday with close friends and family?

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Cardinalita90 · 06/12/2025 20:05

Very rude of her. Considering this was meant to be an apology dinner for the last time she flaked, I think it's pretty clear she doesn't respect your time or friendship. If there's something going on in her life it takes 2 mins to send a text. If she gets in touch and doesn't have a good excuse, just remember the old phrase "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me".

She will probably flake from the holiday now anyway so I doubt you need to worry.

THisbackwithavengeance · 06/12/2025 20:02

You’re being far too needy. This friend is probably a nice lady but she’s not feeling your friendship the way you do. Just let it slide and mentally relegate her to the position of casual friend rather then best friend or very good friend.

CandyCaneKisses · 06/12/2025 20:00

I would be silently done with her. I wouldn’t bother to speak to her again because she knows what’s she’s done wrong.

Carycach4 · 06/12/2025 19:58

What sbe said was perfectly frue. Most people have to save their own deposit

Lavender14 · 06/12/2025 19:55

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:58

I can't decide what's more bizarre tbh - the fact that I've been called scary, unhinged, needy, controlling, etc. for expecting a response to a query about whether she was still ok for tonight after being out last night and did she need a lift...

Or

The amount of people who think I should be sitting dolled up alone in a restaurant right now instead of checking we were still on for going...

I think there's a middle ground though OP which is what I was thinking when I responded to you. At 3pm I would not have cancelled the table the way you have. By 5.30 I probably would have because noone wants to be stood up obviously.

I think it's really shit she's essentially ghosted you again. I'd not get in touch now until she contacts you and I think she'd need to have had a really serious crisis for me to continue a friendship after this. I'd give it a few days and then I'd be getting lashes done elsewhere and just letting it slide.

In terms of the group holiday, has she paid for her spot? Could anyone join and buy her out or could everyone cover her cost slightly to buy her out without one person taking a big hit? I'd leave this until closer to the time to decide on though when you have a fuller picture of what may or may not have happened tonight.

arcticpandas · 06/12/2025 19:39

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:58

I can't decide what's more bizarre tbh - the fact that I've been called scary, unhinged, needy, controlling, etc. for expecting a response to a query about whether she was still ok for tonight after being out last night and did she need a lift...

Or

The amount of people who think I should be sitting dolled up alone in a restaurant right now instead of checking we were still on for going...

I honestly can't understand the reactions to your post. I hate flaky people because they make me feel shit and lose my time. As for you- she has shit on your Saturday. I would just fade away from this "friendship" tbh. Not worth the hassle.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 19:36

Fdsew · 06/12/2025 19:33

OP, stop chasing her.
Its not good for you.
Real friends reciprocate effort and energy.
They are not flaky.
Get your lashes done elsewhere.
Take the holiday decision out of her hands.
Move on.

I think I will get charged for the holiday though which is an issue...

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Fdsew · 06/12/2025 19:33

OP, stop chasing her.
Its not good for you.
Real friends reciprocate effort and energy.
They are not flaky.
Get your lashes done elsewhere.
Take the holiday decision out of her hands.
Move on.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 19:29

So I ended up sending her a very polite, measured message to let her know I'd cancelled the table and that I was really disappointed not to hear from her. That's all for now, but no response.

I've contacted a couple of mutual friends in case something is badly wrong, but no reply as yet.

I'm actually due a new set of lashes (outing) at my next appointment so right now am tempted to cancel and find someone else. That does leave the issue with the group holiday though....

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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 19:27

@Frugalgal Not a peep - and I've sent a message saying how disappointed I am (nothing heavy or accusatory)

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Eddielizzard · 06/12/2025 18:57

She's a plonker and I personally wouldn't want her at my or holiday. Who does that? Leaves you hanging for your birthday celebration - which she missed in the first place!

I'd wait for her to contact me, listen to whatever bullshit excuse she's got and unless it was actually a good excuse, say that it really isn't good enough.

ComfortFoodCafe · 06/12/2025 18:56

I wouldn’t bother with her again.

HardworkSendHelp · 06/12/2025 18:34

I am shocked at some of these responses, of course you are not going to get dolled up and travel to a restaurant and sit and wait for a flakey friend who won’t respond to your calls. I would be fuming OP. Unless she is in hospital, dead or lost her phone this would take some explaining.

Flinderskleepers · 06/12/2025 18:26

I'm with you OP, if you make plans with someone, it's normal to be communicative and confirm that you're still going rather than leaving others guessing. I don't think this is your ASD at all, I think you've done what any normal person would do and clearly you were right to do it as she hasn't bothered to contact you.

I know you have future plans with this person, but if I were you, I'd knock this friendship on the head. It's not worth the brain power having to maintain it.

latetothefisting · 06/12/2025 18:20

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:58

I can't decide what's more bizarre tbh - the fact that I've been called scary, unhinged, needy, controlling, etc. for expecting a response to a query about whether she was still ok for tonight after being out last night and did she need a lift...

Or

The amount of people who think I should be sitting dolled up alone in a restaurant right now instead of checking we were still on for going...

a large number of posters on MN go off on weird tangents or focus on tiny minutiae rather than the main picture - if you hadn't mentioned the whole cancelling the table aspect and just posted at 6pm, giving the background then 'AIBU to be annoyed she's clearly stood me up and hasn't even bothered to tell me,' then I can't imagine anyone with a brain would have voted anything other than YANBU.

I'd cut your losses with her. If you've got enough friends to have a birthday night out (and pay £90 per person to do so!) AND go on a group holiday, you're not so desperate for friendship to beg for this flake's attention. For all she knows you ARE sitting in the restaurant dolled up, which would be bad enough for a normal meet up but given it's supposed to be ) for your big birthday and b) an apology from her for missing the previous event, it's really shit.

You need to get some self respect and cut her off. She's telling you what your friendship means to her, which is fuck all, not even the ten seconds to compose a whatsapp saying 'So sorry, I can't make it tonight.'

Frugalgal · 06/12/2025 18:08

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 15:19

Let me preface by saying I've got ASD and rejection sensitivity is a huge thing for me, as well as needing plans to be as concrete as possible and not changed.

So for context I've known my friend about 3-4 years, she has a beauty business and I started off just as a client. We tend to just catch up before/after appointments with a coffee or occasionally over the phone, but rarely go out together. However I was also the only friend who didn't flake on her 30th birthday night out (this is important). She's often really flaky with plans full stop (not just with me).

It was my 40th celebration last week and her babysitter let her down on the day. She managed to arrange another sitter who could only come later and said she would meet us at the venue (luckily it was a big group). Not only did she not turn up but she didn't message to let me know. I got a message on the night so say her and her ex (replacement babysitter) had had a huge row and he left - she claimed to have written a text but forgotten to press send - I can only give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

So I saw her yesterday and to make up for last week she offered to take me for a meal at 6pm today - I booked a table. She was on a Christmas do last night but promised she wouldn't be out late, and we discussed outfits for tonight, etc.

I've text her and now tried to call and no response, so have cancelled the table. I really feel like giving her a piece of my mind but I don't want to lose one of the few friendships I have. She's also booked on a group holiday for my birthday too so not sure how that will pan out...

So, did you ever hear from her OP?

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:58

I can't decide what's more bizarre tbh - the fact that I've been called scary, unhinged, needy, controlling, etc. for expecting a response to a query about whether she was still ok for tonight after being out last night and did she need a lift...

Or

The amount of people who think I should be sitting dolled up alone in a restaurant right now instead of checking we were still on for going...

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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:57

viques · 06/12/2025 17:52

To be honest, it doesn’t sound like a very committed friendship on her part, as you say you tend to “meet up for a coffee” when you have an appointment at her business. You seem to think not letting her down on her birthday gives you some sort of superior friendship badge. She didn’t come to your birthday ( with good reason) but other people did, she did try to contact you, though you seem to think she is lying. Now you are stamping your foot, cancelling the restaurant and behaving like a little Princess because on a busy day of the week for someone in her business , she hasn’t had time to respond to your messages. I think either you accept that you are not in her closest circle, or you make more effort to meet up and become more of a friend.

HOW MANY TIMES - SHE'S NOT WORKING TODAY!!!!!

@Seelybe Far from using it as an excuse, I'm pointing out why I may feel the way I do. Other friends I have understand that and will keep me updated on plans as needed (how hard can it be - surely NT people do that too?). I function extremely well in life given my diagnoses and the challenges I've faced. (Oh and I agree that too many people DO use it as an excuse)

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rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/12/2025 17:55

Sorry to read she’s not responded yet. It seems she’s not a great friend and your spidey senses must have been right!

BessMarvin · 06/12/2025 17:55

viques · 06/12/2025 17:52

To be honest, it doesn’t sound like a very committed friendship on her part, as you say you tend to “meet up for a coffee” when you have an appointment at her business. You seem to think not letting her down on her birthday gives you some sort of superior friendship badge. She didn’t come to your birthday ( with good reason) but other people did, she did try to contact you, though you seem to think she is lying. Now you are stamping your foot, cancelling the restaurant and behaving like a little Princess because on a busy day of the week for someone in her business , she hasn’t had time to respond to your messages. I think either you accept that you are not in her closest circle, or you make more effort to meet up and become more of a friend.

Given she's not working it won't affect her will it.

Owly11 · 06/12/2025 17:54

She is not your friend. Having a coffee with your beautician does not mean you are friends. She doesn't realise that you can't read between the lines and she is flaky with everyone so there's no reason why she wouldn't also be flaky with you. If someone lets you down once give them one more chance. If they do it again just don't arrange anything with them again. Trust her behaviour not her words.

Seelybe · 06/12/2025 17:53

@OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends your friend is flaky and you're hard work.
If you have ASD you will understand by now what your triggers are and should be working on how to manage your responses rather than complaining on MN.
I have major ND fatigue I'm afraid - every other poster seems to claim it for themselves or their children. Unless support needs are high just to function day to day it's lost all currency for me as an excuse now.

ResusciAnnie · 06/12/2025 17:53

I don't want to lose one of the few friendships I have.

? you said you had a big group out celebrating your birthday. Focus on them, ditch the flake! Raise the bar! Curate your social circle :)