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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 15:19

Let me preface by saying I've got ASD and rejection sensitivity is a huge thing for me, as well as needing plans to be as concrete as possible and not changed.

So for context I've known my friend about 3-4 years, she has a beauty business and I started off just as a client. We tend to just catch up before/after appointments with a coffee or occasionally over the phone, but rarely go out together. However I was also the only friend who didn't flake on her 30th birthday night out (this is important). She's often really flaky with plans full stop (not just with me).

It was my 40th celebration last week and her babysitter let her down on the day. She managed to arrange another sitter who could only come later and said she would meet us at the venue (luckily it was a big group). Not only did she not turn up but she didn't message to let me know. I got a message on the night so say her and her ex (replacement babysitter) had had a huge row and he left - she claimed to have written a text but forgotten to press send - I can only give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

So I saw her yesterday and to make up for last week she offered to take me for a meal at 6pm today - I booked a table. She was on a Christmas do last night but promised she wouldn't be out late, and we discussed outfits for tonight, etc.

I've text her and now tried to call and no response, so have cancelled the table. I really feel like giving her a piece of my mind but I don't want to lose one of the few friendships I have. She's also booked on a group holiday for my birthday too so not sure how that will pan out...

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pictoosh · 07/12/2025 09:33

Don't say anything for now. The good thing about communication by text is that it allows you time to compose a response.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 09:33

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 07/12/2025 09:22

@OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriendsAre you paying the holiday for everyone and expecting them to all pay you back? I do this - but with a group of lifelong friends I trust implicitly, I would not do this otherwise. Please make sure you aren’t being taken advantage of, ask people for the balance of what you are owed and tell them payments to you need to be made in a advance of any debit on your card or it’s cancellation? X

Yes this is what I'm doing - but other than this particular friend it's either members of my family or friends that I do trust implicitly to pay me so I'm not worried for anyone else...

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WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 07/12/2025 09:22

@OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriendsAre you paying the holiday for everyone and expecting them to all pay you back? I do this - but with a group of lifelong friends I trust implicitly, I would not do this otherwise. Please make sure you aren’t being taken advantage of, ask people for the balance of what you are owed and tell them payments to you need to be made in a advance of any debit on your card or it’s cancellation? X

pictoosh · 07/12/2025 09:20

Yeah, agreed. We've all been there. It isn't what she did but the way she went about it. X

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 09:18

@pictoosh if she'd done that I wouldn't have minded (we've all been there!) I wasn't overly fussed on going out anyway!

@WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing the money comes off my card regardless of whether I receive it from her or not...

I've had another text saying she's so sorry and doesn't want to fall out with me - I don't really know what to say

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pictoosh · 07/12/2025 09:16

Yeah, crap excuse, particularly as the arrangement was to make up for not showing up to the previous one.
She may like you well enough but she doesn't seem to respect you much. That might not be personal, she might be like that with everyone...but it's not a great way to treat anyone.
She could have let you know on the day but she cba and left you dangling. In a bad way, my arse. Unless she lost control of her fingers, it's utter rubbish.

I'd rather a text saying "I overdid it last night and I'm hugging the toilet, so sorry", than be avoided and ignored like I don't even factor at all.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 07/12/2025 09:14

Sorry I wouldn’t be relying on this person to pay their share of a holiday - don’t be paying her share in anticipation of getting paid back.
I would also find a new salon and let this friendship slide. She sounds rude.

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 07/12/2025 08:46

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 15:45

I need more than an hour notice to get ready and into town (never mind that I had offered to pick her up as well and wouldn't be able to). Presumably your friend doesn't have form for letting you down though? So many times we have agreed to do something but not nailed down plans - the day comes and I ask 'are we still ok for x?' with no response.

There's a group of us going away next year as a birthday celebration - family and close friends.

Such flakiness would upset me too. It shows a level of self-involvement and lack of consideration that I would find problematic in a friend. If it is a constant theme in your friendship, I would let her take the lead on making plans, and see if she sticks to it.

ThePelicansBriefs · 07/12/2025 08:46

Yeah OP you deserve better than that. A real friend wouldnt act like this. No point trying to force this woman to keep in touch all the time. It's a game you can't win. I'd move on if I were you.

LiftAndLetLift · 07/12/2025 08:22

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 08:11

So she finally got in touch at 730 this morning to say she was 'in a bad way' Friday night (not just drink I'd imagine) got in at 3am and was 'really rough and asleep' yesterday - sorry but even with the worst hangover of my life I've managed to send a quick text. I'm going to cancel my next appointment and go somewhere else, it doesn't deal with the holiday situation though - I guess it depends if she pays her next instalment but I will look at the cost of removing her since we've only paid the deposit so far.

Pathetic excuse. She is not a friend.

You sound caring and considerate, I'd dump her. Find someone else for those treatments.

She won't be paying any more for this group holiday so make the best arrangements now.

Ignore the posters calling you unhinged, what the hell?!

Shes been rude, flakey and clearly doesn't value your friendship.

She manages to run a business yet can't send one short message to you? Hmm.

I can't stand people that make plans then ghost you.

dairydebris · 07/12/2025 08:21

Just get it over and done with and remove her from the holiday. I wouldn't enjoy worrying about it over next few months. Shes a flake and you don't like her that much anyway. Sorry. 😟

Flinderskleepers · 07/12/2025 08:18

No two ways about it, the 'friend' is a twat.

And a flake.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 08:11

So she finally got in touch at 730 this morning to say she was 'in a bad way' Friday night (not just drink I'd imagine) got in at 3am and was 'really rough and asleep' yesterday - sorry but even with the worst hangover of my life I've managed to send a quick text. I'm going to cancel my next appointment and go somewhere else, it doesn't deal with the holiday situation though - I guess it depends if she pays her next instalment but I will look at the cost of removing her since we've only paid the deposit so far.

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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 08:07

@HardworkSendHelp unfortunately she uses an online booking system where I'd get charged if I was a no-show!

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OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 07/12/2025 08:07

@Frugalgal it's only the deposit that's been needed so far and I didn't pay for a lash appointment instead of her giving me that (same price). The next instalment is due tomorrow and she asked me when I saw her how much so she could set up a monthly direct debit but who knows....

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Crunchienuts · 07/12/2025 07:43

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 17:58

I can't decide what's more bizarre tbh - the fact that I've been called scary, unhinged, needy, controlling, etc. for expecting a response to a query about whether she was still ok for tonight after being out last night and did she need a lift...

Or

The amount of people who think I should be sitting dolled up alone in a restaurant right now instead of checking we were still on for going...

Hahaha. I’m with you OP. I would be disappointed with her behaviour as well.

treesandsun · 07/12/2025 00:51

I think people were being particularly harsh in their responses to you with the accusations that you have been too needy etc. it may well be that because she'd flaked in the past you were more alert to it potentially happening again this time. I have friends that I wouldn't need firm up arrangements until the very last minute because I I can rely on them I have a friend who's a bit flaky I think she thinks it's quirky personality trait whereas I just find it really annoying.

I think some people just like to argue with the OP or don't read the original post fully before giving their opinion . I wouldn't be surprised if her baby sitting story was bollocks . if you're the one that puts the effort into the friendship and she's not really giving much in return it's not much of a friendship to maintain.

Homegrownberries · 06/12/2025 21:23

"me.....needing plans to be as concrete as possible and not changed"

"She's often really flaky with plans full stop (not just with me)"

You're not at all suited to each other. I'm surprised you made it this far as friends.

notmynamenamename · 06/12/2025 21:22

So you sound like casual mates. Her flaking on your bday sounds like arrangements going wrong plus she has form for this it’s not personal.

you deciding several hours in advance that a night out must be cancelled because she didn’t get back to you is over the top. Some people are just more laid back than others. I’m autistic and I like to know and plan/prepare for things too but not everyone is like that. Again it’s not personal.

However leaving you hanging like that it crap and for that I would step back a bit from the friendship. I wouldn’t necessarily end it but I would put some barriers up.

Imtornanddontknowwhattodo · 06/12/2025 20:43

Sorry for misreading about her not working today and this lady didn't reply. Your instincts were correct and many responses on here were harsh. It isn't unreasonable to confirm or ask if tonight's still on earlier in the day, especially given her history. You being ND is irrelevant to that. And this was meant to be an apology dinner. She clearly can't be bothered and tonight proved it.

I wouldn't reply to any of her messages and would find another salon.

Regarding the group event, I'd try and find somebody else as she can't be relied on. If she says anything, just reply I can't rely on you and you don't reply so I made other arrangements.

I hate flaky people.

HardworkSendHelp · 06/12/2025 20:40

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 19:29

So I ended up sending her a very polite, measured message to let her know I'd cancelled the table and that I was really disappointed not to hear from her. That's all for now, but no response.

I've contacted a couple of mutual friends in case something is badly wrong, but no reply as yet.

I'm actually due a new set of lashes (outing) at my next appointment so right now am tempted to cancel and find someone else. That does leave the issue with the group holiday though....

Frig the cancelling just don’t show up. What goes around comes around! See how she likes it

Frugalgal · 06/12/2025 20:31

Has she been paying you her share of the holiday money? If yes, don't take her off it, let her keep paying. If she turns up or flakes out that's on her.

I would go dark for now and wait to see what if anything she comes back with.

SardinesOnGingerbread · 06/12/2025 20:23

If she's got a history of being flakey, then she's already let you know that she's not that interested in being your friend. It sounds like you've got lots of lovely other friends, including a group who are all excited to go on a big holiday with you, so I'm not sure why you're putting as much thought into this as it seems. Why not just let go and relegated this one to the 'nice to see for coffee when I have time' pile?

TempleOfLove · 06/12/2025 20:10

When I read your op, I just knew she was going to flake on you. Regardless of what people say on here, in real life if you've an outing planned both parties confirm well before the time to check its still on. Her silence tells you everything you need to know. She's no " friend". As for last week's excuse of not pressing ' send' on a text, utter garbage. We're programmed to think the best of people and to expect them to treat us as we do them, because the reality is often harder to swallow, but don't fall for it moving forward. If something feels ' off' trust your gut - it's there for a reason.

OnceMoreIntoTheBreachDearFriends · 06/12/2025 20:09

Pineapplewaves · 06/12/2025 20:06

Don’t give her back the £90.00 she paid for your birthday, if she can no longer go or says she has to drop out (which sounds likely) then it’s tough, unless you can give her her money back with no penalty to you.

If you booked the holiday see if you can remove her from the booking, the earlier you do it the less it will cost you. The Lead passenger will need to do it.

The £90 was for last week, she knows she isn't getting it back
If i remove her from the holiday it will cost everyone else more..

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