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ChristmasIssue · 06/12/2025 02:55

We are staying at home for Xmas this year as we got a dog back in April, don’t have anyone to have him and don’t want to leave him anyway.

As we wouldn’t be visiting anyone, back in September, we said to our family that everyone is welcome to come to us if they would like but we understand if people want to do other things or stay at home themselves.

8 relatives have chosen to come to us, including my cousin with 2 children aged 7 and 2. Everyone coming is aware we have a new dog and that he was our reason for staying home for Xmas.

Now we are less than 3 weeks til Xmas and my cousin has said that she isn’t happy with her children being around our dog and asked us what we plan to do. I was a bit annoyed as we had been clear about everything but I’ve said the dog will be here, although I’m happy to keep the dog out of one room all the time and in another room whilst we eat dinner. My cousin has said this isn’t good enough, that her children should be able to move around the house as they wish without worrying about our dog. She is suggesting kennels or that our dog stays outside or is made to stay in one room. Our dog is small, very clam etc, so no trouble but I do understand that dogs aren’t for everyone.

Another relative has waded in and is asking if our dog can go elsewhere for the time they are all visiting, which is 3 days in total. I’ve said no, that won’t be happening. Now cousin and this other relative are trying to involve more relatives and get them to say they are not happy with the dog being here. I’ve ignored their texts and calls today. The texts are saying that cousin and her children will no longer be able to come if the dog stays, that I’m cruel to prioritise our dog over a child and that it’s too late for them to go anywhere else so I’m making her spend it alone as a single mum. The other relative is also now saying she is allergic to dogs so I would be making her Xmas difficult. There was no mention of this previously and she agreed to come knowing we had a dog.

Tomorrow I plan to text to say that if they no longer want to come, that’s a shame, but I understand and that if anyone else feels the same, to let me know due to food and drinks order.

My partner and kids (older) have said that next year we are staying home and no one is invited!

What do you think of the whole situation and do you think I’ve been fair? I really wish I hadn’t bothered inviting anyone.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 06/12/2025 10:31

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 06:08

I disagree. They likely accepted accepted out of courtesy as it’s a regular arrangement. Once it then transpired that the OP was not making suitable arrangements for the animal when considering young children will be present, the issue surfaced.

I image she knew all along what their reaction would be but has tried to take the cowardly was out by inviting them knowing it was going to be an issue rather than telling them from the outset that she now considers and animal to be more important than her family and one of them are invited.

People know who will and won’t visit when dogs are around. It’s hardly a revelation in most cases.

Read the full thread, especially the OP's comments, carefully.

NOT a "regular arrangement" at all. And you do not "accept out of courtesy" if the invitation makes clear there will be a dog there. Don't you think?

Cycleaway · 06/12/2025 10:29

Well done OP. I don’t think it’s always appreciated that people have different dispositions and personality types, and that standing up for yourself comes easier to some of us than others. I worry about pushing back, even if I’m completely in the right, which you really are in this scenario! Some people - probably your cousin included - are used to getting what they want through railroading others into agreeing to their every demand. They’ve still plenty of time to make arrangements, you’ve not ruined anyone’s Christmas

Daygloboo · 06/12/2025 10:29

ChristmasIssue · 06/12/2025 02:55

We are staying at home for Xmas this year as we got a dog back in April, don’t have anyone to have him and don’t want to leave him anyway.

As we wouldn’t be visiting anyone, back in September, we said to our family that everyone is welcome to come to us if they would like but we understand if people want to do other things or stay at home themselves.

8 relatives have chosen to come to us, including my cousin with 2 children aged 7 and 2. Everyone coming is aware we have a new dog and that he was our reason for staying home for Xmas.

Now we are less than 3 weeks til Xmas and my cousin has said that she isn’t happy with her children being around our dog and asked us what we plan to do. I was a bit annoyed as we had been clear about everything but I’ve said the dog will be here, although I’m happy to keep the dog out of one room all the time and in another room whilst we eat dinner. My cousin has said this isn’t good enough, that her children should be able to move around the house as they wish without worrying about our dog. She is suggesting kennels or that our dog stays outside or is made to stay in one room. Our dog is small, very clam etc, so no trouble but I do understand that dogs aren’t for everyone.

Another relative has waded in and is asking if our dog can go elsewhere for the time they are all visiting, which is 3 days in total. I’ve said no, that won’t be happening. Now cousin and this other relative are trying to involve more relatives and get them to say they are not happy with the dog being here. I’ve ignored their texts and calls today. The texts are saying that cousin and her children will no longer be able to come if the dog stays, that I’m cruel to prioritise our dog over a child and that it’s too late for them to go anywhere else so I’m making her spend it alone as a single mum. The other relative is also now saying she is allergic to dogs so I would be making her Xmas difficult. There was no mention of this previously and she agreed to come knowing we had a dog.

Tomorrow I plan to text to say that if they no longer want to come, that’s a shame, but I understand and that if anyone else feels the same, to let me know due to food and drinks order.

My partner and kids (older) have said that next year we are staying home and no one is invited!

What do you think of the whole situation and do you think I’ve been fair? I really wish I hadn’t bothered inviting anyone.

The answwr is obvioua. You are right. They are wrong. Tell them all to bugger off..

RandomMess · 06/12/2025 10:28

No good deed goes unpunished does it!!

PurpleThistle7 · 06/12/2025 10:28

I am allergic to dogs and pretty scared of them but I have no idea what she’s on about. I can choose where to go and the most I’ve ever asked is that friends maybe hold back a particularly jumpy dog when I arrive so we all have a minute to get used to each other. I have a friend with 4 dogs and we just don’t go there as it’s too much for me. Super weird to accept an invite and then demand accommodations

Slightyamusedandsilly · 06/12/2025 10:27

I'm with your son @ChristmasIssue 'My oldest has just put a few photos of our dog having his advent calendar treat and out on his morning walk on the same group chat'

September
You to fam. 'We're having Christmas at home this year because of the dog. You're welcome to come.
Fam to you. 'Great! We're all coming.'

December
Fam to you. 'Get rid of the dog.'

They're mad.

pictoosh · 06/12/2025 10:26

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 10:24

It’s nothing to do with fear. Dogs are grim. Other than working dogs they serve no purpose other than to cover up for owners social inadequacies.

They have no place in a civilised society.

Lol...it's an angle I suppose.

Keekabooyou · 06/12/2025 10:26

Tell them to feck right off. It’s your dogs home and if they don’t like it tough. They can go to each others homes if they want to spend it together. I’d rather spend Xmas with my dogs than most of my family.

Itwasallyellow2 · 06/12/2025 10:25

All you can do is be clear, concise and consistent. Don’t bend. You’ve made your plans clear; they either accept or they don’t. That’s up to them and it’s not for you to compromise here. Sod the lot of them quite frankly and bravo to your son for not taking any shit.

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 10:24

Naunet · 06/12/2025 10:17

Ridiculous, its a dog, not a tiger, why are you raising your kids to be such fearful little drama queen's?

It’s nothing to do with fear. Dogs are grim. Other than working dogs they serve no purpose other than to cover up for owners social inadequacies.

They have no place in a civilised society.

Bellyblueboy · 06/12/2025 10:24

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 06:25

How anyone can prioritise an animal over a child is beyond me but some people do.

The relatives have dodged a bullet here and can now enjoy their Christmas.

Don’t be so silly! Lots of people priories their family pet over other people’s children! It’s perfectly normal.

this family have said they are staying at home this year because they want to be with their family pet and don’t want to put him in kennels. Perfectly reasonable and the wider family are being completely unreasonable.

if the conditions at the hosting household don’t suit then decline the invitation. Easy

tara66 · 06/12/2025 10:23

OP it seems all your relatives know it is actually a Bengal tiger - only you and your DF think it's a dog.

Pushmepullu · 06/12/2025 10:23

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 06:25

How anyone can prioritise an animal over a child is beyond me but some people do.

The relatives have dodged a bullet here and can now enjoy their Christmas.

Don’t be ridiculous. The OP isn’t prioritising a dog over a child. Your other post about a lot of people never visiting op because of the dog is equally stupid. The OP has a dog, it’s the reason she is staying home this Christmas. She has invited relatives, who know about the dog, they said yes. Now they are putting conditions on the OP, in her own home regarding the dog. Throw in a bit of emotional blackmail, a bit like your comments, and hey presto the OP is the grinch.
And for what it’s worth, whilst I grew up with a dog, to me it is just that, a dog.

Ella31 · 06/12/2025 10:23

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 05:47

Of course not if it was clear at the outset that a dog would be there. I wouldn’t even consider it.

I’m surprised the OP is apparently so shocked at their relatives response to a dog being present. It shows an incredible lack of self awareness.

They accepted the invite knowing the dog was there and then subsequently declined later on. The op was actuslly very straight up, the guests were the ones lacking awareness.

Riddiculous statement

BitOfAWeirdo · 06/12/2025 10:21

To the dog haters on the thread, this isn't really about the dog, it's about people accepting an invitation and them trying to dictate whst happens.

As an example, swop the dog being in the house for the OP inviting family for Christmas and carefully explaining that as she (or another guest) is allergic to nuts/dairy/seafood or whatever, none of these will be included in the Christmas food. Everyone accepts the invitation in September and then in December start moaning that they love nut roast/cheesecake/prawn cocktail and if those aren't served will not come. They then rope in other people to tell the OP how horrible she is.

It isn't the dog, it's the entitled and demanding behaviour of the potential guests.

HonoraBridge · 06/12/2025 10:20

Your home, your rules. You were clear about the dog. The relatives are being very rude and selfish.

Ella31 · 06/12/2025 10:18

It works both ways. Threads here are constantly bersting dogs for invading public places, well your home is your dogs space. I'd swiftly uninvite them. You made it very clear that the dog would be present at the start. If they dont like that, that's unfortunate.

Naunet · 06/12/2025 10:17

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 05:33

I would never take my DC to a house with a dog or allow a dog into my home for that matter.

It is of course your choice to have a dog there but get used to a lot of cancellations in your social diary because a lot of people won’t put up with them for good reason.

Ridiculous, its a dog, not a tiger, why are you raising your kids to be such fearful little drama queen's?

BuckChuckets · 06/12/2025 10:16

Brilliant update, OP, I think some members of your family are completely bonkers accepting your invitiation KNOWING your dog will be there, and then kicking off about it IN DECEMBER.

MyLimeGuide · 06/12/2025 10:15

ChristmasIssue · 06/12/2025 10:10

I’ve spoken to my partner and told him that mumsnet have confirmed I am not being unreasonable. 😅

My partner said to stop going over it all in my head and get it sorted. So, I have just now sent a message to all relatives on the group chat reminding them that I said back in September that we were staying home due to our dog, and that if the dog is an issue to any of them, I’ll understand if they can no longer make it. I’ve asked them to confirm whether they’re coming or not by the end of today so that I can plan food, sleeping arrangements etc. I’ve then also just sent my cousin a text separately saying that I understand if she can no longer come, and that if she cant, we’ll box up the presents and she can arrange a courier to get them.

My oldest has just put a few photos of our dog having his advent calendar treat and out on his morning walk on the same group chat that feels highly sensitive at the moment. I did laugh when I saw them but I could kill him, he thinks he is hilarious.

I’m genuinely not a pushover but I feel really bloody sick. I will say what needs saying but I still hate this sort of thing and I just really didn’t see this coming. I also feel like a total drama queen putting this on here but I really started to think I was missing something. You never know if when your partner and kids are saying you’re not unreasonable whether they’re just being really loyal or we’re all just not seeing something so the thread has actually helped.

Excellent work 💝and from your son!! Legend!

ChristmasStars · 06/12/2025 10:15

ChristmasIssue · 06/12/2025 06:57

It’s not a regular arrangement. Various people have hosted Xmas over the years, some years there is no big get together and everyone does their own things. Some years the family splits into a few groups, while others have stayed home or gone on holiday. Some people have declined this year for various reasons and some are getting together with others. It’s very much anything goes, there’s no pressure so she didn’t accept due to courtesy or it being a regular arrangement.

In September, another relative asked in the main family WhatsApp group if we were doing a big Xmas get together this year. I said that we wouldn’t be able to travel this year due to our dog, that we didn’t have anyone to have him and we didn’t want to leave him anyway, but I said if everyone wants big Xmas, I’m happy to host. I also said I understood if everyone wanted to do something else and we were fine to have Xmas with just our kids. I’ve just checked back on our messages and my cousin was the second person to accept our invitation. She reminded me that one of her children has some food issues, which I knew anyway, and I said not to worry and that we’d speak closer to the time to make sure we have everything in that he’ll eat. She was happy with that and said thanks.

Resend that message to the group as a reminder of why you're staying home and offered to host.

BitOfAWeirdo · 06/12/2025 10:15

Well done OP, that's the perfect response.

Shelby2010 · 06/12/2025 10:13

From what you’ve said about your cousin, it sounds like she’s just very stressed. If she’s got a toddler, she’s probably already thinking about having to constantly corral the child in a non-childproofed house. Adding having to stop it trying to poke the dog or chew the dog toys is probably freaking her out.

Why don’t you get a stairgate as a compromise and say something like this:
’Hi Cousin, I’ve been thinking on what you said & realised that as our house isn’t childproofed, it’s really not going to be safe for little Tommy to be wandering round without supervision, even without the dog. What will be best is if we put a stair gate on the living room so you don’t have to keep eyes on him every second.

I know you’re worried about DDog, but when you’ve met him you’ll see that he is very small & very calm. If the kids are uncomfortable with him, then we can keep them apart. There will be at least 6 adults in the house to help things go smoothly.

We’re really looking forward to seeing you on the 21st, love OP’

I expect after making a fuss, she needs a bit of an ‘out’. I would completely ignore trouble-stirring allergic relative at this point. I don’t believe they have any allergies that won’t be cured by a large glass of sherry.

Fargo79 · 06/12/2025 10:13

Terrifictiger · 06/12/2025 09:59

I wouldn’t rely on that type of defence if you ever end up in court!

This is such a weird way to entertain yourself. Some trolls are quite funny and I get why they do it. But this is...odd.

Notonthestairs · 06/12/2025 10:13

Youve done the right thing Op.

I appreciate its left you feeling uncomfortable. But they've forced your hand very unfairly - thats their responsibility not yours.

It will settle down and be forgotten about in the fullness of time.