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To start a conspiracy theory thread about the pyramids?

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Gardener82 · 05/12/2025 23:03

Do you believe the pyramids or The sphinx were built by the ancient Egyptians?
I’m just watching Egypt’s Secret code and Bradley Walsh isn’t accepting this theory, my husband believes it was Aliens.
I don’t know what I think really, please discuss, Share your thoughts.

OP posts:
Crofthead · 06/12/2025 10:11

Is your husband ok op? This is not normal

Rituelec · 06/12/2025 10:09

There is lots of history that we now know to be false but it has never been changed because its too complicated. Always bare that in mind.

We dont know for a fact who built them, or why. (Or how!)

pointythings · 06/12/2025 10:07

RedTagAlan · 06/12/2025 09:57

How can things that never existed, apart from in imagination, have died ?

Or did they jump in their spaceships and boldly go where none had been before. :-)

Agreed. The problem I have with God, other than his non-existence, is that the moment you get gods, you get organised religion. And then you get people putting themselves in groups and setting themselves against other groups. It's divisive.

The secondary problem is that man tends to make God in his own image - with all the selfishness, pettiness and hatefulness we all have the potential to enact.

RedTagAlan · 06/12/2025 09:57

BlueJuniper94 · 06/12/2025 08:23

Does it ever make you think Neitszche was right about how catastrophic the death of God has been for us?

How can things that never existed, apart from in imagination, have died ?

Or did they jump in their spaceships and boldly go where none had been before. :-)

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 06/12/2025 09:49

The transmission- and loss- of knowledge is fascinating. How different civilisations transferred knowledge from one generation to the next, each generation building on the knowledge of those that came before. The Egyptians were excellent record keepers and the empire lasted eons so they had a long time to accumulate skills and knowledge.

A disaster that wipes out a generation, or a group, can take all the knowledge with it. There are records in several cultures of the Great Flood that wiped out knowledge around the Mediterranean.

Hence the Renaissance when we gradually rebuilt and redistributed knowledge after its destruction by (I think) the Mongolian hoards.

At different times, knowledge has been preserved by the Greeks, the Moors, as a PP says the Christian monks. I’m sure every civilisation will have had a remnant trying to share their knowledge in the years following its collapse.

It really interests me that our knowledge now is stored digitally, electricity dependent. What would survive a cataclysm now?

Planesmistakenforstars · 06/12/2025 09:49

Apart from all the other myriad problems with your husband's "theory," he believes that aliens built the pyramids, put dead people in them to divert attention, and then just fucked off. Rather than be able to imagine wooden rollers and shit loads of people. Both of which we know were around. What a prize you've got there OP.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 06/12/2025 09:46

It is depressingly common for the 'earlier people were inept/incapable' theory to run riot. Earlier people were just as capable, intelligent and had just as good problem solving abilities as we do now. In fact, we are probably worse, because we rely on machinery and computers, millennia ago everything had to be done with muscle power and careful design.

Paleolithic man wasn't stupid. Neolithic man wasn't stupid. They were just like us brainwise. They will have had their cleverclogs who came up with ideas - and the manpower to make unlikely seeming things happen.

RedTagAlan · 06/12/2025 09:46

Notmyreality · 06/12/2025 08:40

Eh? The water cycle is a recent “discovery”? Think you’ll find even ancient civilizations had a basic understanding of the fundamental links in nature.

Not really. Sure, the Egyptians and others had river gauges, they knew when the floods were due to come, but they never got to understand where the rain came from. Hence they had Hapi, their god of the Nile. Who they had temples to, to pray for the floods.

As evidence for what I say, I present the Bible. What does it say about the water cycle ? Book of Isaiah, some of which is thought to date from about 800BC.

“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,” – Isaiah 55:10

Does not return there. So the Bible folk did not know the water cycle. They thought it was their God who sent the rain.

And this is a theme repeated over many ancient civilizations. Human sacrifice was popular in many to bring the rain.

Abhannmor · 06/12/2025 09:41

The only way to find out the secret of the pyramids is with a massive ' bunker buster ' bomb. Trump is on the case , fear not. And afterwards Jared Kushner has big plans for the site. Alien World theme park I think.

MsWilmottsGhost · 06/12/2025 09:40

pointythings · 06/12/2025 09:30

I have a degree in prehistoric archaeology and I think your husband is talking bollocks. All of the things he lists are perfectly possible with the technology of the era - given enough time. And they had time, because every year they used their flood season to do this work. It was a way of keeping people in work and earning when they couldn't farm. In terms of the statuary, the craftsmen of the time had literal years to finish these pieces.

There is also evidence that the Egyptians used early brain surgery (trepanning) and the patients regularly survived. These were very advanced people.

Oh @pointythings that must have been a fascinating degree. In another life I would have loved to study this 😁

MsWilmottsGhost · 06/12/2025 09:36

Velvian · 06/12/2025 08:22

The first sign is painting roundabouts. 😅

😂

DyslexicPoster · 06/12/2025 09:33

I'm no historian. However I watched one documentary that explained how Egyptians placed a heavy stone on a tomb by displacing sand. They was around for a long time. They knew their physics. We have replicated this method. I think science scares some people.

I'm not sure all conspiracy theorists are stupid. They do hate science so I find that upsetting.

Now the Congress stuff scares the absolute shit out of me as a scientist as it defies our current understanding of physics. But maybe like how do you place an impossibly heavy stone on a tomb, we just need to figure this out.

I do not belive Aliens built the pyramids. It's physics and maths and rules of maths mean we had similar accent structures around the world before we talked globally.

But we have to be open minded to learn. The first thing I learnt on my degree is you can not dismiss what you can not disprove. So Adam.and Eve? No I belive in evolution but I can not state Adam and Eve was made up as a scientific fact. I can just prove it's it's extremely un plausible. On a personal level I think things are utter BS but I have no place to state things as irrefutable fact.

No one knows what bought chemistry to life in these thermal vents. We just don't know everything. Science is to big for the adverage brain. Definitely mine anyway. Conspiracy theorists all seem to belive in every Conspiracy going which is fascinating in itself. My friend is obsessed. It's the only thing she lights up out ( or talks about). Would be sad to think her entire existence was to research BS. So on that note, where are the research papers into ET and the pyramids?

MsWilmottsGhost · 06/12/2025 09:31

BlueJuniper94 · 06/12/2025 08:23

Does it ever make you think Neitszche was right about how catastrophic the death of God has been for us?

No

pointythings · 06/12/2025 09:30

I have a degree in prehistoric archaeology and I think your husband is talking bollocks. All of the things he lists are perfectly possible with the technology of the era - given enough time. And they had time, because every year they used their flood season to do this work. It was a way of keeping people in work and earning when they couldn't farm. In terms of the statuary, the craftsmen of the time had literal years to finish these pieces.

There is also evidence that the Egyptians used early brain surgery (trepanning) and the patients regularly survived. These were very advanced people.

MsWilmottsGhost · 06/12/2025 09:30

BlueJuniper94 · 06/12/2025 08:25

Because once it seemed obvious that institutions could be trusted. Once you've seen several examples of people doing the very opposite of the thing they're trained to do and paid to guard against, trusting anything becomes an act of (often misplaced) faith

"Institutions" are just people. People just like you and me. People just like the ones who built pyramids. We're all just people.

MsWilmottsGhost · 06/12/2025 09:26

BlueJuniper94 · 06/12/2025 08:20

When do you think the apex of our current civilisation was or will be? And what sort of theories do you have for our own collapse

Eh? Is this a serious question for me? I read this stuff as a hobby, I'm just a nerd 😂

I'm just boggled by how some people seem to think that the humans living 5000 years ago were somehow different from current humans.

We do the same stuff, and make the same mistakes.

ByDreamyNavyDreamer · 06/12/2025 09:17

NotFBI · 06/12/2025 08:29

See now i think brains of people who discard everything that is "conspiracy theory" are the inflexibly thinking ones. 😁
There were "conspiracy theories" that proved right. So why not aliens 😁

I just like my thinking supported by evidence!

NotFBI · 06/12/2025 08:59

Maybe the fall of the Berlin Wall was the apex in Europe and downhill since then.
Not for europe eaat of it though

WalkDontWalk · 06/12/2025 08:50

Modern people think that ancient people were dim. They weren't. They were as intelligent as us. A child born 5000 years ago, if transported to Islington at birth, would stand as much chance of getting into Oxbridge as any other kid in the neighbourhood.

So, being intelligent, they solved problems. We just don't know how they solved them.

Except sometimes we can work it out.

Search on YouTube for Man Lifts 20 Ton Block By Hand.

Velvian · 06/12/2025 08:49

BlueJuniper94 · 06/12/2025 08:27

A symptom of the cause you say?

Sorry that was the first sign of the collapse, not the apex. I think we can see the apex somewhere behind us. Maybe the fall of the Berlin Wall was the apex in Europe and downhill since then.

Confused506 · 06/12/2025 08:46

They had whips. Massive massive whips.

Onelifeonly · 06/12/2025 08:44

Ancient Egyptians were pretty similar, if not identical to us, in their abilities to think, plan and solve problems. They didn't have all the technology we now have, but somehow humans in the past from many different eras and parts of the world managed to create many lasting structures that we still have today and many others that we don't. We don't know everything about their times, but why would anyone assume they were incapable of making large monuments from stone? If it required the expertise of, now defunct, aliens surely these structures would have been far more complex and technologically advanced that they were - otherwise, how did these aliens get to Earth?

Plus the universe is vast and Earth an insignificant part of it. Why would aliens chose it over the millions of other choices they would have?

Logic is a wonderful thing!

Notmyreality · 06/12/2025 08:40

RedTagAlan · 06/12/2025 01:55

I don't buy that.

Consider the water cycle. Near everyone on earth today has some awareness of how it works. And that is a relatively recent discovery. There is no evidence the ancients do.

That's just one example.

Eh? The water cycle is a recent “discovery”? Think you’ll find even ancient civilizations had a basic understanding of the fundamental links in nature.

NotFBI · 06/12/2025 08:40

KimberleyClark · 06/12/2025 08:36

I do believe there is life elsewhere beyond the Earth. I just don’t believe aliens built the Pyramids. The two beliefs are not incompatible.

Compromise. They helped 😁

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