To start a conspiracy theory thread about the pyramids?

Occams razor needs to be bookended with Hitchens razor. Completely destroys 100% of known bullshit dead.

Even the ones positing that it might be aliens when we have an archaeological record that suggests this is the least plausible solution. I don't think so.

Why ? Most people here will know of Occam's Razor.

Some people on this thread really need to look up Occam's Razor.

If this wasn’t some sort of weather event it sounds like a celestial battle with some sort of mother ship. Always think of it when these conversations come up:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

If UFOs landed in biblical times how else to describe but as fiery chariots & incredibly bright stars that followed etc…

I actually believe there had to be some more powerful force that built the pyramids, whatever that may be. I wouldn't rule out it being aliens, who's to stay we the only civilization in such a vast universe, and who's to say they aren't far more advanced than we are? I'm not religious at all, so that rules out any mystical being being the one that created them for me. So I don't believe your husband and is daft at all.

I am not rejecting anything, and how can I misunderstand that which does not exist, nor ever has ?

Unless you mean I am rejecting the concept of God, Gods, spirits, demons angels, but that is patently not true, because here I am writing about the concept.

I used to believe in the God of the bible, and Gods in general. Now I don't. I did not reject anything. I stopped believing. I realized it is all made up.

That limestone covering was removed - possibly by another group of aliens for their patios.

Are you aware of the Bosnian Pyramids OP?

It never ceases to amaze me how quick the human race is to dismiss its own achievements. We have been masters of the planet (rightly or wrongly) for thousands of years. We have made bread from wild grass, learned the secret of fire, irrigated barren lands and created awe inspiring feats of engineering. And yet despite evidence to the contrary, some people believe it is more logical for other beings to have travelled light years to perform these tasks. Go figure.

Why? Atheism isn't about rejecting any deity, by the way. You cannot reject something you do not believe exists.

The original outer coverings have all fallen off though. <tuts>

No, they are still standing.

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You misunderstand God. You don't have to believe, but at least have some apprehension of what it is you reject.

I think it’s amazing Mars once had atmosphere & seas, rivers, potentially. Could the earth, after a cataclysmic event, look like Mars today in hundreds of millions of years?

That was my first thought😀

Also, it's a nonsense to imply that there were 2000 or so years of stable Christian religious practice, then it all went to shit in the 20th century. There have always been new sects, denominations and cults, within the big religions and without. Christianity and Islam are themselves sects that sprung from Judaism and took off for a variety of specific cultural circumstances.

Humans never let anything settle, they're always thinking and coming up with new ways of doing things. God, being a human invention, is subject to the same innovative zeal.

See: The Rhythm of Life scene from Sweet Charity - come for the satire on 60s hippy cults ("I'm in a Religion of the Month club"), stay for the insane choreography.

Yes, I was taught-by Irish parents and teachers-that the English were running around with arses painted blue until the Irish taught them how to read.

What's more, it was probably the Irish who built the pyramids, just as they built bridges, roads and tunnels for the English.

Oh, there absolutely was pre-pharaonic civilisation. I have been on an excavation of a settlement from that period and the things we found speak of a technologically and politically advanced society even then. Everything has roots.

But let's be honest, the level of evidence for the efficacy of Wiccan practice is pretty much exactly the same as the level of evidence for the efficacy of prayer to any other God.

Chesterton clearly didn't bother to understand atheism, and this piece of 'wisdom' that everyone raves about was just another cheap sneer of superiority from someone religious about those who are not.

Oh, I wouldn’t disagree.
Just to be pointlessly picky though, especially given my lack of ancient Greek, we still say ‘the four corners of the Earth’, do we not?
If some being from twenty centuries in the future were to latch onto that expression, she could infer from it that we regarded the planet as more or less a table top.

Even those ancient Egyptians knew the Earth is round.
Had it been flat, they reasoned, all the holy cats would have shoved everything off its edge at the first opportunity; golden burial trappings, chief eunuch, the palm fan of Ra: the lot!

I devoured all that stuff at school fifty years ago. Wasn't it he who claimed that the pyramids in Egypt constitute proof that alien intelligence ‘seeded’ humanity, since pyramids appeared also in Mexico?
That ratiocination was enjoyably used in Eco’s great novel about credulousness and conspiracies, Foucault’s Pendulum.
A principal character is musing one night about that same architectural coincidence, only to be recalled to common sense by his very grounded lover, who reminds him that back in far off millennia, a pyramid was the only design which made great height possible.
Arches and vaults, that consciousness-expanding technological leap forward, were far in the future. (I just got a flash of some ‘nouveau’ pharaoh screaming at his chief architect to bung flying buttresses on his new pyramid or face death in the crocodile enclosure)

What being? What unexplainable ancient things? Isn’t this the plot of Stargate?

I am not saying nobody had a clue. I was responding to a PP who suggested masses of lost knowledge. I used the water cycle as an example.

I just say there is no mythical lost knowledge more advanced than today.

Eratosthens, a Greek, showed the earth to be a sphere in about 200BC. He calculated it's diameter. And if you are wondering why volcanos erupt, knowing the shape of the earth is a fundamental building block to work out plate tectonics. But it took what, about 1800 years to get from sphere to plates.

To say ancient Egyptians knew advanced stuff lost forever is just daft in my view.

Re the Bible, I reckon it is a pretty good guide of what was common knowledge at the time. In the NT for example, Jusus was supposed to have been taken to the top of a mountain where he was shown the 4 corners of the earth. So the authors of that book, even though they were writing in Greek, appeared to be unaware that the earth was a sphere. Something that had been discovered and proven 2or 3 hundred years before.

So it's unlikely schools were doing widespread teaching of Eratosthenes. Probably because we had to wait a while for the printing press.

My theory is that there was a civilisation of humans around this time that had contact with an older, more advanced being. Maybe humans who had left earth and developed, maybe another species entirely. They shared knowledge and tools and then something happened and they left again. It would explain quite a few ancient things that seem unexplainable. They had knowledge but lost it.