To start a conspiracy theory thread about the pyramids?

I think Earth is unusually resourced/unusual from what we can tell/do know but any interest assumes ‘they’re’ wired like us.

Some think we’re in a sort of nested simulation & ‘space travel’ really involves hacking the ‘code’ like a giant game of Grand Theft Auto. We’re therefore missing point about ‘space travel’.

I think the ‘Wow signal’ now debunked but that could have been ‘another civilisation’ they thought.

Totally agree.

Although I would expect us to find some rubbish they throw out their window in passing. Bottles of spaceman pee and suchlike.

:-)

We might be the overpass and the pyramids the graffiti 😂

I think with the Fermi thing, I lean towards the why bother aspect.

Say there is a life form a couple of million years more advanced than up, totally possible and probably likely. Might be 2 million light years away, and any day we might pick up their first radio wave broadcasts.

But if this life form had mastered faster than light travel, or even star trek level tech, why would they even bother jumping into their hyper ship to come here ? What would they learn from us ?

How do you know you're not? Maybe both were abducted by aliens and switched. Ask him and watch his reaction closely.

Yes, logical. The universe should statistically be teeming with life so we’re poss either the first or AI type developments cause our demise. Although what are the odds other life carbon based in our image? On your Fermi comment, where are the probes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft

The fact Mars likely had water & an atmosphere billions of years ago is also interesting:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_panspermia

yeah - it went about 4 seasons past it's sell-by date and by then they had killed all the Goa'uld and the new villans were ... urgh. I am not over it.

Jeeez, was it as much as 10 seasons. I didn’t think it was running for that long. I’m more shocked and intrigued by that to be honest😂

too late. 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 about 25 years ago got their first - not to mention the film in the 90s

But we do know how the pyramids were built. The archaeological record provides overwhelming evidence.

There's plenty of stuff we don't actually know about that we can e njoy speculating about.

You expressed that as well as I have ever heard it :-)

I think it's getting quite close to the Fermi Paradox.

For aliens to have gone through all the industrial revolution, tech and physics etc, and to be zooming around the galaxy, there should be evidence.

Fermi paradox | Definition, Resolutions, SETI, & Facts | Britannica

I am also the proud owner of an alien conspiracy believing man, who is otherwise thoroughly nice, so I humour him.
What I don’t understand about the persistent belief that ancient humans couldn’t possibly have engineered anything big or complicated and therefore it must have been aliens - but by that logic how did the aliens learn to do it either? Humans can do lots of crazy clever stuff, because we are a clever resourceful species. Because in modern times we use machines to achieve stuff we assume that ancient people couldn’t have achieved stuff without machines. But in order to get to a point of creating machines we had to go through the stage of doing stuff without them to help us understand what machines we needed to create to enable us to do stuff quicker/easier etc.
The aliens would have had to pass through the non-machine stage too. What makes them somehow magically superior that they can manage stuff and we can’t? It’s illogical. I’m probs not expressing it well though.

Humour him if you want to, fuck the neysayrs here..... There are so many things out there to question.... It's just a bit of light hearted fun as you said.

Fuck everyone else; you and hubby do you and hubby

But why not??

We truly don't know so why can't we have speculation and open minds?

Everybody knows that it was Douglas Adams mice. The ones of 42 fame.

Allergictoironing Thank you for your very informative comments .I think Conspiracy theories have taken hold so much now, that people think they are missing something if they dont "get it" ! Obviously BW has a vast depth of Ancient History at his fingertips ,and would never knowingly try to bend History for the sake of a lucrative TV show!

They'd have fallen down by now if it was Persimmon.😆

Does anyone think he's a bastard, I think he's just an idiot.

The ancient Egyptians were geniuses and the knowledge that they had to build the pyramids has been lost. There has been a place found that had waste systems that surprised archaeologists as it was really early.

Civilisations that no longer exist the knowledge gone just because modern builders lack the know how, just shows the ancient skills were amazing.

@Gardener82 Ask your husband about Stonehenge! How did they know how to get the stones to Wiltshire from wales. I get lost using a sat nav!

However, the Egyptian civilisation was “allegedly” started by someone coming in from the sea and I think a lotus flower had something to do with it. So hence theory of Atlantis.

I like to watch these kind of programmes occasionally too, but, we seem to look at ancient civilisations and think they had no technology or skilled crafts people, especially from our technological age. It's a bit like you hear people say that in the past they thought the earth was flat, many in the past knew much about science and knew the earth was round, going back to the ancient Greeks. A lot of these old cultures were incredible places. And there is money to be made in conspiracy.

Exactly the point I was referring to - I can remember back in the 70's the screams that Cleopatra should be played by a black African, I was too young to remember the same furore about Elizabeth Taylor playing the role but I remember my parents commenting on it the next time the subject came up.

@GarlicRound I'll also throw in the fact that for quite a while Egypt was ruled by Kushite pharaohs, who restored some of the glories of earlier dynasties.

In the Jovial spirt of this thread OP, I reckon you should casually test him.

Next time you are both watching the news, and the Royals are mentioned, just say " Bah, they are lizards you know. I was reading about it online, and I agree. Lizards, the lot of them".

See what he says :-)

That was me, and yes, you are correct. I should have said what bible version, and I would have if this was a bible chat. But it's not, so I didn't :-)

And I got the 4 corners of the earth wrong. I was going from memory. I should have said Mat 4:8 "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; " (KJV)

The 4 corners are from elsewhere in the Bible.

Re translations, that why I made clear that it was a Greek who calculated the diameter of the earth, because he wrote in the same language as the NT is written in. So the language as it was, is capable of conveying the point.

I also quoted Isaiah in a post about the water cycle. I lifted that from Biblehub, but I usually use a PC program called E-Sword. That's an excellent resource, free to download ( I highly recommend it), and many bibles are available. Interlinear bibles and dictionaries too, so if there is a dispute in a Bible chat about translations, it's all on hand. Just click the reference number beside each word to get the translation info.

So yup, you caught me out :)

I was posting in good faith tho, in the context of this thread.

Again though. E-Sword. A really excellent resource. I have tried a few, and I rate that the best.

Well I know this of course, exactly as you have set it out.

I’ve been pressed into too many bothersome arguments on that damn notion of her being black though, and as I mentioned, they're a tenacious lot who can spot a chance to air the thesis in the most unlikely of circs.

Quite so, but you never know who out there is just itching to pounce on any mention of ancient Egypt which mentions an anti-African bias, seeing an opportunity to spout the black Cleopatra line.
That’s a discussion which always gets desperate and overheated very quickly.