To start a conspiracy theory thread about the pyramids?

I completely agree with your husband.

You've twisted my words as that's not what I was implying

Agree. And Why ? is usually my first question too.

I fund the giants thing interesting. We all know there various legends about giants in loads of cultures, but what is less known is that the Bible mentions them. So giants are a favorite of US fundie Christians.

Gen 6:4 The giants were in the earth in those days, and even afterward, when sons of God come in to the daughters of men, and they have borne to them those who [were] the mighty from of old, the men of renown.

It's in the Noah's ark story, and as we know, lots of Americans believe the Noah story to be true. 60% according to some polls ( but 60% is disputed).

That line in Genesis is thought to be a remanent from earlier versions of the story, and it follows on from the Books of Enoch. Texts that were not included in the Bible. The Apocrypha.

The Ethiopian Coptic Church still uses the first book of Enoch. I think some of the others are considered lost.

The book of Enoch we do have is a really wild ride. Lots of giants.

So yup, it appears that's why Giants are popular among many fundies. And throw in David and Goliath too.

I could come up with a conspiracy that a gorilla wrote all of Taylor Swift songs or dinosaurs are a Disney creation or Covid didnt exist and was really an episode of Emmerdale, or Autism is make believe, or all 'black' (to use a generic term) people should be removed from the UK is all this ok?

So where does it end? who decides what is allowed or not? if we are going down the its just a conspiracy theory it is all ok

I guess some lead to 'giants' and a number of 'theories' around them too.
As with all CT, what is the point, why are they 'being kept from us'?

There have been many many many civilization collapses and we are living in a many-many-many times post apocalyptic culture. I can’t remember all the dates and cant be arsed googling before early rise tomorrow. But if I remember correctly some of the OT stuff may date to known climate changes causing collapses in Egypt, perhaps driving the collapse of its first kingdom, and the Bronze Age collapse may have had climate change as a cause too. I came across a fascinating theory about the Trojan War causing rebellions and collapses and it may have helped. There are usually many causes involved in collapse but climate change is absolute and cannot be negotiated.

Late to this thread but I love this!! Also loved the idea that they were built by wombles.

(If anyone wants the boring truth they developed out of mastabas piled on top of each other to make step pyramids.)

Whereas the latest research shows that it was brought from close to the west coast of Wales, so roughly the right direction 😁. They've even found the original position the Bluestones stood in before being moved to Wiltshire.

You can’t be lighthearted on here, someone will always pick on what you say.

Stonehenge has been called "The Giants Dance" many times in its' history. With one origin story that it was nicked from Ireland. Even our prehistoric forbears were acquiring a taste for looting. 😀

The Ancient Greeks (5thC BC ish) thought that the remains at Mycenae (around 1000 years earlier) must have been built by giants - many of the stone blocks are absolutely huge.

Very likely plenty of slaves to die of exhaustion from hauling such things about in those days.
OT I know, but what interests me about Mycenae is how the culture was apparently suddenly wiped out- which ties in nicely with the massive volcanic eruption/earthquake/tsunami at what is now Santorini (?) which all ties in nicely with the ‘7 years of famine’ in the Old Testament- all those clouds of volcanic ash obscuring the sun, etc.

I think some people are ignorant of how much our ancestors achieved and how clever they were.

I think some people arr ignorant; full stop.

I bet the OPs husband has never visited the pyramids.

Therefore the pyramids don't actually exist. They've just been faked.

Oh dear your DH has fallen down the conspiracy theory road.

I think some people are ignorant of how much our ancestors achieved and how clever they were.
What we do nowadays is nothing in comparison.

Look at electricity, cars, trains, planes, the internet, telephones, the industrial revolution and medicine etc.
We have things like mobile phones, microwaves and AI which are incredible but they all stemmed from those before us.

Ah - my gateway drug to science. That and Dr. Who,

It's a serious point though. Even on this tiny planet we've managed to miss whole branches of the tree of life. Meaning I would be 50/50 as to whether we are capable of recognising "life" that may have originated off the earth.

The only 2 things I'd feel confident about are liquid water is essential to any form of self assembling and replicating organism, and that finding elemental oxygen is probably a very good indicator of something like life happening. However even that may have to be reassessed as our own moon looks a bit odd and oxygenny

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ady5169

I just googled “Wow signal’” and found this: The Wow! signal was
a powerful, narrowband radio transmission detected in 1977 by the Big Ear radio telescope in Ohio, showing characteristics of a potential extraterrestrial signal, prompting an astronomer to write "Wow!" on the printout…
and

• Detection: On August 15, 1977, astronomer Jerry Ehman noticed the signal while reviewing computer data from the Big Ear telescope.

Check the date people. Elvis died the next day. It’s clear that (insert conspiracy of theory of choice, here)

Hmmm... yes.

But, imagine if you did, and you had spent them of a couple of coffees, as I recall was the fashion then.

:-)

"It's life Jane, but not as we know it" to paraphrase McCoy taking to Kirk. 😆

Lol - brilliant.

I just looked it up when I saw it mentioned. It was somewhere in my dim memory that there was an update.

I used to do the SETI screen saver thing, back in the days of windows 98. But I think it was stopped a while ago ?

As a anecdote, I visited the Arecibo observatory back in the late 90's when I was doing a job in Puerto Rico. And ever since then I have had a general interest in SETI, and the search in general. So yup, the whole citizen scientist thing is awesome.

Just imagine if a Pyramid conspiracist took part, and found the signal.

" Please change the batteries in our pyramid stargate".

:-)

I wish I'd mined bitcoins instead of running SETI@Home for 4 years ....

It's all very well talking about "aliens" as if we know what life is.

We don't.

(See also "intelligence").

Fascinating ‘Wow’ update, thank you. A chance for ‘citizen science’ involvement too.

😆 😆. This explains how easy they were to build!

I think for aliens to be capable of faster than light space travel, they would have to have the same evolutionary traits as us. Or it should be, for us to be looking for them via SETI etc, we need to have the same evolutionary traits as them.

I would not say the wow signal has been debunked. It's more a case of us being closer to understanding what it is.

That mysterious 'Wow! signal' from space: Scientists may finally know where it came from — and it's probably not aliens | Space