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To think midwife’s get a rubbish deal compared to teachers?

265 replies

Midwifeacher · 05/12/2025 19:30

Both should earn more than they do, obviously. My sister is trying to choose between midwifery and teaching. Both seem so different but she wants a guaranteed career and is trying to decide which route to take. I’ve been running comparisons with her.Whats shocked me is what a shoddy deal midwifes seem to get. Before taking into account that obviously, sadly, it carry huge emotional weight when things go wrong. Not entirely comparable in profession but why would anyone do this job?

Starting salary:
Midwife - £29,970
Teacher - £32,916

Highest salary without going into leadership
Midwife - £42,618
Teacher - £45,321

Holidays:
Teacher - 13 weeks plus term time bank holidays (though some unpaid, this is included in above salary) major holidays off, no flexibility to take term time off
Midwife - 27 days plus bank holidays, often work major holidays, can book time off when needed, though hard to get approval.

Pension (employer contribution):
Teacher - 28.6%
Midwife - 23.7%

Shifts:
Teacher - 6.5 hour shift mon-fri daytime (student facing) lots of reported overtime
Midwife - 12 hour shift inc evenings and weekends (patient facing) lots of reported overtime

AIBU to think midwives are getting a crap deal? Is it because they’re not as unionised?

also she’s obviously not basing which career she goes for on the above factors, but it has to be taken into consideration!

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Zempy · 05/12/2025 19:47

Midwives are heavily unionised.

They have their own trade union, Royal College of Midwives. Some might be members of RCN or UNISON.

Teachers work excessive additional hours to what you quoted.

However, I would argue both roles are seriously underpaid.

Midwifeacher · 05/12/2025 19:47

Persephoneofhell · 05/12/2025 19:40

You have the pay wrong btw.
Top of band 6 for a midwife is around £46000 outside London!

Is band 6 not leadership?
headteachers can earn up to £140k so I excluded all leadership as I imagine once you go into leadership in either role, your workload will be immense!

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Cece92 · 05/12/2025 19:45

I’m sure on Scotland the starting wage for a teacher is not far off national living wage I know someone recently who qualified and it was like 24k around that area maybe 24.5k xxxx

EskSmith · 05/12/2025 19:44

I agree both underpaid & both with a lot of responsibility .

Teacher overtime is considerable - and they certainly don't only work a 6.5 HR shift. I don't know any that are in school daily for less than 8 hrs & all work considerable additional unpaid (& mostly unrecognised) hours on top of this.
I believe midwives are paid for their overtime?

Izzywizzy85 · 05/12/2025 19:44

Celestialmoods · 05/12/2025 19:35

Teachers have to train for longer than midwives to become fully qualified.

How so? I thought both were three year undergrad degrees?

Midwifeacher · 05/12/2025 19:44

But midwives need specific midwifery 2-3 year degree courses, teachers seem to just need just 9 months PGCE after any degree. If you do midwifery post degree, it’s 80 week course minimum. why is the training more with becoming a teacher? Or have we got this wrong!

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steff13 · 05/12/2025 19:43

thetallfairy · 05/12/2025 19:41

Grow up

This did make me chuckle a little. My first thought was that a teacher could have prevented this.

LizTruss · 05/12/2025 19:41

I agree, and of course the teachers get long holidays and go home at 15:30.

It's just not fair, is it?

thetallfairy · 05/12/2025 19:41

Happyhousehappyheart · 05/12/2025 19:38

Sorry but
midwives

Grow up

FurForksSake · 05/12/2025 19:41

You can do an undergraduate BEd with QTS in three years, there are many different routes, but it isn’t a four year teaching degree. Midwifery / nursing / physio / radiography / etc etc are three years just learning to do the role.

Persephoneofhell · 05/12/2025 19:40

You have the pay wrong btw.
Top of band 6 for a midwife is around £46000 outside London!

Happyhousehappyheart · 05/12/2025 19:38

Sorry but
midwives

Platypusdiver · 05/12/2025 19:38

They seem pretty similar to me. It's not like comparing a teacher with a lawyer, with similar education and hours.

Celestialmoods · 05/12/2025 19:35

Teachers have to train for longer than midwives to become fully qualified.

FurForksSake · 05/12/2025 19:31

I think you could change midwife for just nhs staff to be fair. But, it’s apples and oranges and pitting one profession against another never ends well.

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