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6 year old is sad to only have 2 words to say in nativity

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Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 22:02

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to ask a question.
My six year old son is very sad to only have 2 words to say in the nativity. He says that everyone else has lots of words and are in more than one scene. He is in one scene.

He doesn't usually get upset by things but keeps mentioning how upset by this he is. He is also quite honest and tells me what is going on (telling me if he got in trouble etc) so I believe him.
he is also really sad that he has never got a certificate at all. He said quite sadly to me: I've shown perseverance! Why haven't I got one like everyone else?

WIBU to raise it with the teacher?something along the lines of: my son is a bit sad that he's got such a small part/ hasn't got a certificate unlike everyone else. I don't want to overstep, annoy the teacher or make things difficult for my son though. How should I approach it?
thank you.

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sparrowhawkhere · 05/12/2025 06:43

I’m a teacher and had your situation and left it, didn’t cause a fuss. It never got any better. My child was overlooked throughout primary. Unfortunately some teachers aren’t particularly fair and don’t consider how left out some children end up being. So ask, don’t leave it.

Strikeback · 05/12/2025 06:40

If it makes you feel better - when I was at school and we did the nativity, the first year I had no part at all. Just left to sit it out with two others for whom there was also apparently no part. This was a small private school with less than 25 of us in the year. In contrast, there were 90 in DD's year and they managed to find a part (most non speaking) and a costume for everyone. Villagers, sheep, loads of inn keepers, stars....it's not that hard.

StillAGoth · 05/12/2025 06:38

I haven't read the full thread but would say this.

We're only about 13 weeks into the year. So not everyone will have had certificates yet. We generally try and be fair across the year and ensure that all children will be recognised for something. We give out one certificate a week. Not a certificate for every child who shows something every time they show it.

Secondly, allocating parts in the nativity/Christmas performance is an absolute minefield. Include a SEND child with unclear speech and another parent will be cross that their child with perfect diction hasn't been included. Include a child with perfect diction and the parent of a child with unclear speech will be cross that you're not being inclusive enough.

We often see a different version of a child than the parents see at home. We allocate roles, speaking parts and consider how much movement there is based on what we see of that child every day. Some children want a speaking part others don't. Some like the idea of it and want to do it but are anxious about speaking in class so we wouldn't put them on a stage to speak in front of an audience. Or we'd give them a couple of words.

I've never worked with a teacher who just thought, "Ah fuck it!" And randomly allocated parts or gave the least confident child a major.part. personally, I consider their personalities, capabilities, behaviour, levels of comfort etc and find a way to.include everyone as best as I can.

Thirdly, I also don't mind any parent talking to me about anything for any reason. Be respectful and listen to my response that's all.

It's my class and my job and I do it well. That doesn't mean I never make a.mistake, never forget or never overlook, even though I do my best not to, because I'm still just a person doing a job and no one is perfect.

SophieJo · 05/12/2025 06:34

Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 23:16

Well it's hardly ludicrous. I'm a teacher, believe me certificates are often given on merit (in all the 20 schools I've worked in).

That is the premise that his school gives certificates on. Having said that, he's not had one yet for quite a long while and he is sad about it, which is why I wanted to ask how best to approach it.

I have not said that I will go in all guns blazing but he is my son and I will work out the best way to help him.

in fact, I reposted to say that I will work on his confidence and wait a little while so not sure why you even posted what you did.

The fact that you’ve said you are a teacher amazes me! You should know better.

Han86 · 05/12/2025 06:32

The issue with the play is that you have 30 kids per class and need to give each something to say. Perhaps others are more vocal and will be given roles of narrator which do generally get more to say, however it's likely most children only get to say something small. I know we have had to have a child saying welcome to our play and someone end it with thanks for coming just to ensure they had something to say.

Certificate wise how often are they given out? We do ours weekly and it's one per class. Maybe he hasn't got one yet as it's a new school year and the class teacher won't know what last year's teacher did. We have a copy of the register and tick off when we have given a child a certificate so in theory everyone in the class will get chosen at some point, but it might not be til the summer term. It sounds unfortunate but as he joined late in the school year he might just have been missed off by that teacher.
Definitely encourage him to continue showing the right behaviours. We have some children who cry when it's not them that win, and have to work with them on understanding we need to be pleased for our friends but it is ok to feel a bit sad.
I don't think there is anything worthy of mentioning to the teacher yet, unless it turns out for example 5 certificates per class are handed out each week and the same children are chosen each time.

Coffeeteasugar · 05/12/2025 06:20

Rosealea · 04/12/2025 22:56

What are his two words?

I'd definitely be nipping at the teachers heels about recognition, certificates etc. That's completely unacceptable.

We are 12 weeks into the school year so less than half my class have had a certificate yet. We give out one a week in celebration collective worship. I’m not sure what you want the teacher to do about that - invent more weeks?

madaboutpurple · 05/12/2025 05:51

Sometime ago This morning featured a boy who had the task of opening a door to let Joseph and Mary in and that was all he had been offered by the teacher. Sadly not all the kids can be the star of the show. I thought it was good of the teacher to think of having door openers in the event as it must be hard trying to include everyone.

TheNightingalesStarling · 05/12/2025 05:39

I don't think there's any harm in telling the teacher hes feeling invisible. The teachers do want the children to thrive.

I hate Star if the Wrek. Great for the one who gets it, rubbish for all the others. And the one that's last on the list feels the worst of the lot (and it feels like a made up reason... DD got got hers for "doing well in the drumming class". )

arcticpandas · 05/12/2025 05:32

My son is doing theatre at the conservatoire. This year he will play someone who doesn't say anything because he's mutic. A play is about group effort not individuals so you can tell him that.

About the diploma I would gently ask the teacher if everyone got one except him. Maybe that's not true? And if it is the teacher will surely give him one.

ACynicalDad · 05/12/2025 05:31

When I was a teacher there was av pager in my mark book (I’m that old) which showed which kids had received a certificate and which hadn’t, I’d always tried to make sure over the years they all got one/a fairly fair split. It will come.

As for the play big up his part, with a class full of kids they can’t so be Mary and Joseph. In some places it helps if your parent is a governor. I was one but my kids were not interested and asked for demotions.

Ooodelally · 05/12/2025 05:27

Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 22:57

Thank you so much for all your replies, I appreciate them all.

I am a bit unclear how to quote people properly, so please bear with me.

Most of you are saying to not speak to the teacher, and instead prop up my son's self confidence - I think that's s good idea. I always reassure him that he's doing brilliantly because he is, school is hard work for them!

His teacher appears to be competent, smart and fair so I have trusted her thus far to give the certificates on merit though I (as many of you appear to be) am a bit dubious about why they are given to particular children.. though of-course I am not there so only going by his word.

He's already said that one 'naughty' kid gets them all the time so seems unfair.

I am going to make a certificate for him from me in the meantime and see how the certificate situation evolves.

I find it hard because I'm sure like many other parents my son goes to breakfast club and after school club as my husband and I aren't around for those times, so I don't ever get to see his teacher daily. Sometimes I feel this means that your child gets forgotten!

I'm very sad because neither my husband or I can attend the nativity because of work (I am a teacher snd have been denied leave and my husband is away with work at that time ) but have asked his grandmother to attend to see him in it so he has someone cheering him on.

I've seen first hand as a teacher how some kids get forgotten so am always conscious with the children in my care to be fair and to be seen to be fair.

Also have had some very pushy parents as a teacher who have been wrong on things which is why I wanted to ask this question on here.

To the poster who has said to advocate for your child - thank you. I agree with you, just need to phrase it right and make sure that what I am saying is reasonable. My son has said that he likes his teacher so that is a plus, he feels liked by her and says she is kind.

I will prop up his self esteem.

His part is a shepherd. he says his two words with great expression and I will ask for a performance at home and listen to his singing too so that I can feel part of it!

Thank you all very much

You’re a teacher? Secondary by any chance?

IamNotBeingUnreasonable · 05/12/2025 02:12

Rosealea · 04/12/2025 22:56

What are his two words?

I'd definitely be nipping at the teachers heels about recognition, certificates etc. That's completely unacceptable.

Don't be so ridiculous 🙄

stonebrambleboy · 05/12/2025 01:42

My granddaughter was Mary last year. She had two words " I'm tired' it's amazing how different those two words can sound. With the right gesture, eye role, sigh, yawn she smashed it. She's now known as Dame Judi Dench. He'll be great... ' Who meee ???'

SullysBabyMama · 05/12/2025 01:09

I have a class of almost 30 children and only 5 have speaking lines.
Of course I had to choose children that were confident as they need to be happy to perform this to all the parents. Your son doesn’t sound very confident and so this is why he wouldn’t have been chosen for a larger role.
Re certificates, yes it’s worth mentioning in February if he still hasn’t got one. However also consider that intrinsic motivation is far better for child development than extrinsic motivation (which your son (or you) seem so bothered by).

Blondeshavemorefun · 05/12/2025 00:19

All children will get a certificate /star of the week etc

weve had 11/12w of school so under half of the class (if 30) would have had by now

someone has to be last

deste · 04/12/2025 23:59

They hadnt planned to have dancers. They had six classes of children involved.

sittingonabeach · 04/12/2025 23:53

@deste why obviously no dancers. DS’s school plays always had a dance sequence, usually performed by the younger cast members as stars, angels etc

Pryceosh1987 · 04/12/2025 23:48

Get your son to ask the teachers the questions first. If no resolve then you can do it.

deste · 04/12/2025 23:46

Mine was asked if she wanted to be a singer in the nativity but she said “no, she wanted to be a dancer”. Obviously there were no dancers and she was a narator as were many of the others.
My friends grandson has one line.

Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 23:45

Thank you everyone for your responses, you've given me lots of food for thought!

Sorry if I missed a question.

I have to sleep now.

Take care.

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sittingonabeach · 04/12/2025 23:44

Did the teacher ask children if there were parts they wanted to do? Is he good at reading, confident? If they are trying to share lines across 90 children they will need the more confident children having the larger parts, otherwise it might be a nightmare trying to run a play with so many speaking parts and so many children forgetting them which will have knock on effect on all the other parts

Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 23:43

sittingonabeach · 04/12/2025 23:39

But he hasn’t been in this class 6 months @Crowandrow

He joined this school in May of last academic year, different class teacher yes, but same system and no certificate last year either. So I thought I'd wait it out, and see what happens as I wasn't too sure of things at the beginning.

He forgot over the summer but it has come up again since the end of September.

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sittingonabeach · 04/12/2025 23:39

But he hasn’t been in this class 6 months @Crowandrow

Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 23:39

sittingonabeach · 04/12/2025 23:34

@Crowandrow did your son say he wanted a bigger part?

No, he just asked why he was given such a small part. He asked if it was because he isn't good at drama. 😢 I reassured him that wasn't the case, and just that there are so many children in the class and everybody needs a part, everyone will be doing different things and next year might be different again.

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Crowandrow · 04/12/2025 23:37

AmberRose86 · 04/12/2025 23:03

And getting him a certificate that he’s only getting because mummy kicked up a fuss is the way to do that?

Again, as I have said, I did not intend to kick up a fuss. I was seeking advice because my son has been very resilient about this for a long time - 6 months is a long time to a 6 year old.

Not sure exactly why you had to phrase your question in quite such a sarky way but believe me, I've taken pointers on how not to communicate from you.

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