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Eurovision…… can’t handle this 💩 anymore!

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

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Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:39

OneGreySeal · 04/12/2025 21:32

Ah yes totally, one genocide completely justifies the committing of another? Are you quite well? Never again means ever again for everyone.

Thanks, I knew despite my saying their attack was disproportionate that I would at least get a few misunderstood comments.

Do you think the IDF are supplying singers to the Eurovision?

Why be so stereotypical against an individual singer? What harm are they doing? What does it matter where they come from?

If you read my post I said I don’t think what Israel has and is doing is right but surely an individual Israeli cannot be held to account for the actions of their military?

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:37

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:33

The war with Hamas is not a genocide, unless you think the British committed genocide against the Germans in the second world war.

How dare you defend the atrocities of the IDF against women and children, it’s sickening.

OmNomShiva · 04/12/2025 21:35

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:13

Because the perpetrators of the terrorist attack had tunnelled under said areas - blame them.

You’re allowed to dig tunnels. There is no justifying Israel’s behaviour. That country should be shunned from all competitions until it takes responsibility for its abhorrent violence.

oneinataxioneinacar · 04/12/2025 21:34

Israel went so far past defending itself.
Defence would have been bombing of strategic sites and some sanctions etc.

They flattened an entire country and obliterated a population.

That's genocide not defence

That doesnt mean I hate individuals from Israel. I like to think a lot of them are appalled at what their government has done, for starters.

I certainly dont associate being Jewish with the actions of the Israeli government. Most Jewish people I know are quite vociferous in their condemnation of the Israeli government's actions

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:33

OneGreySeal · 04/12/2025 21:32

Ah yes totally, one genocide completely justifies the committing of another? Are you quite well? Never again means ever again for everyone.

The war with Hamas is not a genocide, unless you think the British committed genocide against the Germans in the second world war.

Tigerbalmshark · 04/12/2025 21:33

ilovesooty · 04/12/2025 20:09

Neither is Australia. It's more complicated than "being in Europe".

Australia shouldn’t be in it either!

Timesquaredy · 04/12/2025 21:33

Isreal has committed war crimes and should not be represented at Eurovision. I hope the UK boycotts too.

OneGreySeal · 04/12/2025 21:32

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:29

I am completely playing devil’s advocate here.

Six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi’s less than 100 years ago.

Yes I agree they have responded to the Hamas attack disproportionately but perhaps it’s an inherent fear of their culture being culled?

I don’t agree with singers from any country being disallowed from competing in contests, it brings politics into music which is not necessary. Convicted criminals fair enough but being ostracised because of where you are born is or what your religious upbringing is, is just hard to understand and continues division.

Just my opinion and doubt many will agree but you can’t choose where or what you are born into.

Ah yes totally, one genocide completely justifies the committing of another? Are you quite well? Never again means ever again for everyone.

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:32

Celestialmoods · 04/12/2025 21:26

Someone talking about this on the radio earlier related it to the boycott of apartheid South Africa and made the very good point that it helps send a message to a population about how they are viewed by the rest of the world, which eventually is part of what stops governments doing the wrong thing.

Standing up to apartheid governments is not pathetic. What’s pathetic is stamping your feet because being unable to completely hide from the genocide is uncomfortable for you.

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I'd imagine Israelis are more concerned about not being massacred again than what various leftie virtue signallers in the West think of them.

OneGreySeal · 04/12/2025 21:30

Israel has murdered countless children and other civilians in a barbaric fashion. What did you expect op?

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Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:29

I am completely playing devil’s advocate here.

Six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi’s less than 100 years ago.

Yes I agree they have responded to the Hamas attack disproportionately but perhaps it’s an inherent fear of their culture being culled?

I don’t agree with singers from any country being disallowed from competing in contests, it brings politics into music which is not necessary. Convicted criminals fair enough but being ostracised because of where you are born is or what your religious upbringing is, is just hard to understand and continues division.

Just my opinion and doubt many will agree but you can’t choose where or what you are born into.

SmalltownCEO · 04/12/2025 21:28

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 21:02

You a flag holder at a festival????
Chant free Palestine whenever possible??
why aren’t you lot chanting about what’s going on in Sudan at the moment???

“you lot”?

The us and them narrative is the entire problem.

Honeycottage · 04/12/2025 21:27

DottieMoon · 04/12/2025 21:10

Delusional

Starving, blowing to pieces and burning alive thousands of CIVILIANS is not defence.

🙄

XWKD · 04/12/2025 21:27

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

Yes. I am Irish and have Israeli and Jewish friends. Of course we continue to see each other. Why wouldn't we?

Celestialmoods · 04/12/2025 21:26

Someone talking about this on the radio earlier related it to the boycott of apartheid South Africa and made the very good point that it helps send a message to a population about how they are viewed by the rest of the world, which eventually is part of what stops governments doing the wrong thing.

Standing up to apartheid governments is not pathetic. What’s pathetic is stamping your feet because being unable to completely hide from the genocide is uncomfortable for you.

Honeycottage · 04/12/2025 21:26

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

🙄

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:25

Im Irish and I am glad that RTE has made this decision. I dont want my television licence fee to fund access to a competition that actively allows Israel to manipulate votes, harass contestants backstage and break the rules of the contest so blatantly.

Tbf Ireland is.... not sane on the topic of Israel. It's quite uncomfortable, actually.

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 21:23

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:21

Burning children to death is not self defence.

Agreed. No room for debate here it’s abhorrent.

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 21:22

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 21:02

You a flag holder at a festival????
Chant free Palestine whenever possible??
why aren’t you lot chanting about what’s going on in Sudan at the moment???

lol I absolutely chant about Sudan. And Nigeria. And the rest. And always will.

nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people.

it’s Netanyahu and the IDF.

sick to death of people claiming that it’s anti semitic and the persecution of Jews again. Granted I accept the rise in awful anti semitism but to be against the IDF and pro Palestine has NOTHING to do with being racist towards Jewish people for the majority of people. Stop with the claims it is. It’s an ignorant minority.

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:21

hattie43 · 04/12/2025 20:00

Because Russia aggressively attacked a country . Isreal were defending themselves .

Burning children to death is not self defence.

2021x · 04/12/2025 21:19

The issue with the competition isn't the war. The issue is that the Israeli government is using Eurovision as propaganda in the US and getting people to vote for them so they can show their popularity. The govenement showed adverts in Times Sq, NY to vote for the Israeli entry, and this had nothing to do KAN the broadcaster.

As a result EBU have to change the rules to prevent that from happening rather than sanctioning Israel because of their Government interference.

I feel for Israeli citizens having to deal with such an authortarian government at the monment, just as much as I feel for the Gazan's being held accountable for their government actions. The actions of this government is eroding all

Here was a breakdown by ESC Gabe (who is a Jewish Brit)

pteromum · 04/12/2025 21:15

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/12/2025 20:49

Im Irish and I am glad that RTE has made this decision. I dont want my television licence fee to fund access to a competition that actively allows Israel to manipulate votes, harass contestants backstage and break the rules of the contest so blatantly.

If Russia cant compete, neither should Israel. Or any other country involved in sustained genocidal activities.

But they are being allowed to?

TheNoonBell · 04/12/2025 21:13

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/12/2025 21:10

They should also be removed.

I dont see whats so hard about this. Its a contest that was founded in peacetime. If your country is attacking another country, you should be removed.

The whataboutism is not needed.

I don't watch or care about Eurovision, it's always been awful.

If we will apply the same standard as Russia then the UK should be removed for Labour's illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003.

SpaceRaccoon · 04/12/2025 21:13

OmNomShiva · 04/12/2025 20:29

Not sure how flattening an entire tract of urban population to literal dust and bone fragments is “defending yourself” to be honest.

Because the perpetrators of the terrorist attack had tunnelled under said areas - blame them.