Page 7 | Eurovision…… can’t handle this 💩 anymore!

XWKD · 04/12/2025 21:55

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How is Ireland a hotbed of anti-semitism? You mean the way the UK is?

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:54

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:44

I don’t care if Russia competes either? Do I hold their singer accountable? Absolutely not! I don’t understand the disgust to be honest, it’s a singing competition.

If my child was refused to take part in a school competition because of their religion or nationality I would be disgusted. I do not understand what the issue is with members of contentious countries taking part!!!

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It’s a television show. Television shows make money by attracting viewers. People don’t want to watch things that make them angry. The vast majority of decent people would not want to watch Russia participating in a light entertainment show while they are massacring innocent Ukrainians, especially the many millions of Europeans living in countries next on Putin’s list. The fact that you claim not to understand this is indicative do nothing other than your own privilege and wilful ignorance.

2021x · 04/12/2025 21:53

Rather than this thread being disrupted can we discuss about Israel governments involvement outside of KAN (the broadcaster) in the use of Eurovision as a propaganda tool to garner international support for their actrions.

Do you think that this is right?

thetallfairy · 04/12/2025 21:53

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Haha yeah yeah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Keep telling yourself this

FitAt50 · 04/12/2025 21:53

MidnightPatrol · 04/12/2025 20:05

Israel shouldn’t be in Eurovision because it isn’t in Europe.

Dont't comment on a subject that you clealy know nothing about.

WeJustWantYouToBeHappy · 04/12/2025 21:52

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Antisemitism has exploded in The Netherlands eurojewcong.org/news/communities-news/the-netherlands/cidi-recorded-421-antisemitic-incidents-in-the-netherlands-in-2024/

YourOnMute · 04/12/2025 21:52

Berlinlover · 04/12/2025 19:29

If Russia aren’t allowed to participate in the Eurovision why should Israel be?

It in a nutshell.

XWKD · 04/12/2025 21:51

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"The Irish"? You're doing exactly what antisemites do.

Ireland was neutral but secretly supported the allies. Maybe you need to learn some basic facts.

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 21:51

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EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:50

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 21:46

🙄 because Russia invaded Ukraine aggressively. Whilst Israel were defending themselves from terrorists and trying to retrieve the people kidnapped by Hamas. Can’t you see the difference?

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The issue is nowhere near as black and white as you are making it out to be. However just a country’s cause is, it is perfectly possible for them to cross the line from defence to vengeance, and commit human rights abuses. The process matters too.

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 21:49

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:44

Israel commit genocide but get upset that countries boycott the Eurovision, well guess what if you don’t like it look at your own actions and stop killing Palestinians.

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Israel have stopped defending themselves as they’ve now retrieved most of the hostages, apart from those ‘lost’ by Hamas of course. And there was no genocide. It’s just something antisemitics have decided to run with to suit their own narrative.

OonaStubbs · 04/12/2025 21:48

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halfpasteleven · 04/12/2025 21:48

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

100% this.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:46

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:44

Israel commit genocide but get upset that countries boycott the Eurovision, well guess what if you don’t like it look at your own actions and stop killing Palestinians.

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Yes,I’m sure their singer/group being withdrawn will really make a difference to their military action.

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 21:46

Berlinlover · 04/12/2025 19:29

If Russia aren’t allowed to participate in the Eurovision why should Israel be?

🙄 because Russia invaded Ukraine aggressively. Whilst Israel were defending themselves from terrorists and trying to retrieve the people kidnapped by Hamas. Can’t you see the difference?

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep · 04/12/2025 21:45

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

This!

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:44

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:39

Thanks, I knew despite my saying their attack was disproportionate that I would at least get a few misunderstood comments.

Do you think the IDF are supplying singers to the Eurovision?

Why be so stereotypical against an individual singer? What harm are they doing? What does it matter where they come from?

If you read my post I said I don’t think what Israel has and is doing is right but surely an individual Israeli cannot be held to account for the actions of their military?

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Israel commit genocide but get upset that countries boycott the Eurovision, well guess what if you don’t like it look at your own actions and stop killing Palestinians.

LlynTegid · 04/12/2025 21:44

Israel should never have been in the contest, nor Australia. They are not in Europe.

My feeling is that the contest will still be watched by a similar audience as normal, even if say ten countries withdraw.

Heronwatcher · 04/12/2025 21:44

I think it also needs to be borne in mind that Israel has also been using Eurovision as a propaganda exercise, trying to capitalise on the conflict (they had to change the lyrics to Hurricane, originally called October rain, because they were originally judged too political by the EBU). I think there is a feeling that if Israel themselves bring politics into the contest, can they be surprised if it backfires.

Plus their voting is extremely dubious, hence the most recent changes.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:44

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:41

If it’s just an individual singer, then what’s the harm in letting Russia compete too?

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I don’t care if Russia competes either? Do I hold their singer accountable? Absolutely not! I don’t understand the disgust to be honest, it’s a singing competition.

If my child was refused to take part in a school competition because of their religion or nationality I would be disgusted. I do not understand what the issue is with members of contentious countries taking part!!!

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:43

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

OP - it’s spelt ‘Israel’, not ‘Isreal.’ Kind of an odd mistake for someone who’s apparently such a big fan of the place to make.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:41

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 21:39

Thanks, I knew despite my saying their attack was disproportionate that I would at least get a few misunderstood comments.

Do you think the IDF are supplying singers to the Eurovision?

Why be so stereotypical against an individual singer? What harm are they doing? What does it matter where they come from?

If you read my post I said I don’t think what Israel has and is doing is right but surely an individual Israeli cannot be held to account for the actions of their military?

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If it’s just an individual singer, then what’s the harm in letting Russia compete too?

thetallfairy · 04/12/2025 21:41

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

Are you INSANE

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:40

Honeycottage · 04/12/2025 20:27

Completely different situation because Russia were the aggressor.
Israel are at war because they were attacked by an invasion of terrorists across the border into their country & hundreds of civilians i.e. babies, children women, elderly people were attacked, raped, mutilated, kidnapped & murdered. Israel were responding to acts of aggression by Hamas & then Hezbollah, Houtis, Iraq. They did not start the war.

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Israel’s actions have clearly moved far beyond what is necessary from a defensive perspective, as is obvious to everyone with eyes.

Ukraine blowing up the Kerch bridge between Crimea and Russia and incidentally killing a few Russian civilians in the process is a justified defensive action. Israeli soldiers sodomising Palestinian detainees with sharp objects is not. That is vengeance, not defence.

I fully support Israel’s right to exist within its 1948 borders, and to defend those borders with necessary force, but that doesn’t mean I have to turn a blind eye to their blatant - and extremely well-documented - human rights abuses.

The issue is nowhere near as black and white as you are making it out to be.

1457bloom · 04/12/2025 21:40

oneinataxioneinacar · 04/12/2025 21:34

Israel went so far past defending itself.
Defence would have been bombing of strategic sites and some sanctions etc.

They flattened an entire country and obliterated a population.

That's genocide not defence

That doesnt mean I hate individuals from Israel. I like to think a lot of them are appalled at what their government has done, for starters.

I certainly dont associate being Jewish with the actions of the Israeli government. Most Jewish people I know are quite vociferous in their condemnation of the Israeli government's actions

I want to see more Jews and Israelis showing their disgust for what has been done to Palestine. The whole world knows.