Eurovision…… can’t handle this 💩 anymore!

Palestine has proved time and time again that they will keep attacking Israel. Hamas have vowed to wipe Israel off the map. What are Israel supposed to do? Let themselves be defeated?

With respect no one here is talking about Freeing Palenstine" and you are also not discussing Eurovision either.

Are you concerned about the Israeli artist that will be attending next year?

And so Hamas decided to kidnap, rape and murder some festival goers. For what? What did they honestly think it would achieve. They hid them under the hospitals and schools, and then just waited, with no plan. The only thing they asked for in the two years since is for the release of Palestinian prisoners, but that wasn’t the reason for the killings and kidnaps on Oct 7th. All that’s happened is thousands of dead Palestinians, and Hamas leaders becoming millionaires…

So you don’t think that someone would be justified in murdering your child if your husband murdered their child? So why do dead Israeli babies justify dead Palestinian babies?

Was it really? How? I thought I was being annoying and tedious but clearly not. Love all these free Palestine supporters jumping on a Eurovision post. Can you all not start your own post about the war? I’m sure there are numerous threads.

Why do you keep repeating that line without engaging with any of the responses you are getting? Do you seriously believe that ‘Hamas could have stopped it at any time’ justifies any and every human rights abuse committed against Palestinian civilians who had no ability to compel Hamas to do that?

I think there is something to be said for pulling out for political reasons, but I hope the UK doesn't send an entry for safety concerns. I have a genuine concern that the live broadcast could be used by militant extremists and all of the performers (especially the Israeli performer) would be hugely at risk.

But why didn’t Hamas release the hostages? That was what Israel asked for right from the start. If Hamas had released them, then just think how many Palestinians might still be alive today. Keeping the hostages for two years has achieved nothing.

It didn't work. That was just belligerent extrapolation, not pedantry.

@EddyNeddy I'm liking your posts.

You had to read it twice as did I. So do not call me a psychopath. If you’d live through war as I have you’d sit back down on your heels and give over. I’ve been there, I’ve no bitterness. I have friends from Kosovo who came here during their war.

You do not have a clue what you are talking about and this post is specifically about the Israel singer. I do not think there is any reason why he/she shouldn’t. I don’t want to discuss the current war in Israel, this post is about the Eurovision.

Why did Hamas attack on 7th October ?

I’ve attached some data, which might be a clue…

I hope the 2026 Eurovision collapses.
But it won’t.
The Israeli campaign of bot voting will ensure they’ll win it.
It’s all so predictable.

Kudos to the Spanish, Dutch, Irish and Slovenian broadcasters for pulling out.

By who? The hungry refugees in Gaza or the people who’s homes they have been viciously stealing and for decades?

It’s clearly not the Israelis that need to worry about being massacred. Nobody without severe bias and brainwashing believes that anymore.

Maybe read my latest post before resorting to childish name calling about mental health issues. Just goes to show what you’re up against, I apologised for a simple mistake but now I’m not worthy of posting because of misdemeanour. Are you a politician?

I'm fairly sure there are dedicated Israel/Palestine threads.

You are a psychopath.

You’re continually winning the ‘missing the point’ prize on this thread. And also the psychopath prize. No, I would prefer for the perpetrator to be punished, and not the perpetrator’s innocent child. Because I don’t believe in collective punishment.

Of course Israel had to respond to the October 7th attack, and to defend themselves. But torture, sodomy and mass starvation are not justifiable defensive tactics.

I am simply trying to make the point that people who have been hurt can cross moral lines when responding to that hurt. This is a simple concept that most adults with half a brain can grasp.

This is another video from ESC Gabe who is reacting to the 2025 vote.

He brings up a lot of issues and the remedies that are trying to be put in place. Its a really good contemporaneous document of what was actually happening in the contest and how Israels participation has changed how the contest has had to be presented.

Sorry, I must apologise, I read it too quickly. Your option should focus on the perpetrator and not the children before I’m called all sorts of names.

They didn't actually break the rules though as far as I know. The EBU investigated and apparently they canvassed votes in a way that was within the rules.

There are always diaspora issues with the public votes - it looks like it's rigged the way they work out with certain countries always voting for each other, but it's mostly because of movement between countries especially countries that have only been separate nation states for eg 20/30/40 years - within that kind of timeframe you have people whose families straddle borders and languages and they'll vote for eg the place they spent summers with granny, even though that's a different country from the one they're raising their own family in.

For Israel ofc the diaspora effect is greatly magnified and there was a massive fuss about them being there at all so the state publicity machine went into overdrive across many borders, while the story of their appearance made international news, people's interest was piqued and they responded to the call to vote.

While Isreal continues to carry out the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, as the UN inquiry found, Isreal absolutely should not be invited to take part in such celebrated competitions

I hope the UK too make a stand

The time for Israel defending itself has past. the first bombardment fair enough .but years later .they are doing what they have complained against from the war the abused is now the abuser and before people jump down my throat my jewish relatives are so ashamed of the government. And as a grandchild of Jewish immigrants so am I

So on that concept, your child is attacked, abducted, raped and murdered and your government does nothing about it? Is that the narrative you would rather see in place? Or maybe a middle ground might be better? I’m sure any mother would prefer your option to be honest.

I take it that if your husband murdered someone’s child, you would have no moral objection to the victim’s family tracking down and murdering one of your children?

Because that’s just how things work according to the moral system you claim to subscribe to.

I do agree with why they attacked, why they defended and continue to defend themselves whilst completely outnumbered and surrounded by Islamic states.

I feel for those who were murdered, abducted and injured on that fateful day that started this war.

I also condemn the killing of innocent people however for Hamas to build tunnels under schools and hospitals to evade attack amounts to genocide in itself.

God love the innocent being caught up in a brutal war whether you think it’s justified or not.

Stand by my previous comment about not being stereotypical about an individual from a country, I’ve met Russians who are lovely, Israeli people too.