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Eurovision…… can’t handle this 💩 anymore!

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

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EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:36

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:34

Thank you - know you’re being sarcastic but no harm in having a different opinion, life would be boring otherwise as you wouldn’t consider other points. Let’s be honest, we could be worse off in Palestine or Ukraine so let’s count our blessings.

No harm in having a different opinion. Lots of harm in being a useful idiot, but hey ho.

rosyvalentine · 04/12/2025 23:36

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/12/2025 20:49

Im Irish and I am glad that RTE has made this decision. I dont want my television licence fee to fund access to a competition that actively allows Israel to manipulate votes, harass contestants backstage and break the rules of the contest so blatantly.

If Russia cant compete, neither should Israel. Or any other country involved in sustained genocidal activities.

Likewise.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:35

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:34

Well Palestinians appeared to be pretty okay with the actions of Hamas. Following 7th October Hamas were greeted like returning hero’s when parading their trophies through the streets in Gaza.

47% of Gazans are children.

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:34

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:27

I don’t see why you’re asking me to explain the actions of Hamas - I’m not pro-Hamas and I believe that October 7th was an atrocity for which there is no justification, as I have made quite clear repeatedly on this thread.

It was quite clear from the start that October 7th would be catastrophic for Gazans. Hamas betrayed their own people by setting this spark.

My point is that Palestinian civilians have no say over what Hamas does and should not be made to pay Hamas’ actions with their children’s lives.

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Well Palestinians appeared to be pretty okay with the actions of Hamas. Following 7th October Hamas were greeted like returning hero’s when parading their trophies through the streets in Gaza.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:34

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:25

How Christian of you x

Thank you - know you’re being sarcastic but no harm in having a different opinion, life would be boring otherwise as you wouldn’t consider other points. Let’s be honest, we could be worse off in Palestine or Ukraine so let’s count our blessings.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:32

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:28

You don’t have to compromise yourself. All you need to do is switch channels. Don’t watch it. Problem solved.

I won’t. I wasn’t going to in the first place. But this thread wasn’t started by people complaining about Israel’s inclusion - it was started by pro-Israel zealots moaning about other countries dropping out.

You’re free to watch Eurovision if you want to, with the remaining 5 competitors. You have no right to demand that other countries take part to satisfy your need for light entertainment.

Smilersam · 04/12/2025 23:30

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

LOL

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 23:29

But there might be someone on the other channel you also don't agree with!

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:28

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:19

Because some people can’t put mass murder to one side and enjoy a singing competition as easily as your good Christian self can.

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You don’t have to compromise yourself. All you need to do is switch channels. Don’t watch it. Problem solved.

Switcher · 04/12/2025 23:27

Completely agree. Israel has been in the competition for 50 years. I don't particularly care for their response to 7/10 , but they are not the aggressor and they are not a sanctioned country who threatens the peace of the entire continent. Im fact in don't see any real parallels with Russia at all.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:27

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:24

Then why, if only a minority of Israelis were in danger, did Hamas do it at all then? Thats my question. Why do you think they kidnapped and murdered only a ‘minority’? What did they hope to achieve for the Palestinians? What was the end goal? The reality is that they didn’t do it to further a cause for the Palestinians, but just did it for the hell of it, took their trophies into Gaza, and then the Palestinians paid for it with their lives. All so unnecessary.

I don’t see why you’re asking me to explain the actions of Hamas - I’m not pro-Hamas and I believe that October 7th was an atrocity for which there is no justification, as I have made quite clear repeatedly on this thread.

It was quite clear from the start that October 7th would be catastrophic for Gazans. Hamas betrayed their own people by setting this spark.

My point is that Palestinian civilians have no say over what Hamas does and should not be made to pay Hamas’ actions with their children’s lives.

Hortesne · 04/12/2025 23:26

Isittimeformynapyet · 04/12/2025 23:18

So we boycott TV because they show the Eurovision?

This wasn't pedantry because @EddyNeddy didn't say or imply that viewers would turn off the whole of TV.

Am I being pedantic 🤔

Actually the best thing to do is turn off the TV. Pretty sure if you keep it on you'll inadvertently have sight of someone somewhere who has said/done something wrong at one point or other in their lives, which ofc is not a person any of us want to view.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:25

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:23

why don’t you go out there and support the cause? What are you doing for those poor wee kids? Just arguing with people on social media who don’t really mind a singer on TV? Maybe you should take a flight out and sort everything out before you start slandering people here. Good luck to you. Hope you save them all. Maybe drop by Sudan on the way home, bit of genocide going on there but no one really cares about them eh?

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How Christian of you x

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:24

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:15

And do you think that everything Israel has done since makes another October 7th less likely? Sure, in the short-term, Hamas’ military capacity is wiped out, but a generation of Palestinian children have just spent two years living through unimaginable terror, with death and destruction raining from the sky, and they will blame that trauma in its entirety on Israel. Being bombed is a radicalising experience - you can’t bomb people out of wanting to kill you.

Everything that the Israelis experienced on October 7th, they have lived for 2 years - and at a far greater scale. Only a small minority of Israelis living in the border communities and at the Nova Festival were in real mortal danger on October 7th. But Gazans throughout the strip were in real mortal danger everyday for 2 years. However traumatised the Israelis are, the Palestinian civilians are a million times more. That is a fact. And it will inevitably lead to more attacks on Israelis that further radicalise them, and another radicalising cycle of violence.

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Then why, if only a minority of Israelis were in danger, did Hamas do it at all then? Thats my question. Why do you think they kidnapped and murdered only a ‘minority’? What did they hope to achieve for the Palestinians? What was the end goal? The reality is that they didn’t do it to further a cause for the Palestinians, but just did it for the hell of it, took their trophies into Gaza, and then the Palestinians paid for it with their lives. All so unnecessary.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:23

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:19

Because some people can’t put mass murder to one side and enjoy a singing competition as easily as your good Christian self can.

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why don’t you go out there and support the cause? What are you doing for those poor wee kids? Just arguing with people on social media who don’t really mind a singer on TV? Maybe you should take a flight out and sort everything out before you start slandering people here. Good luck to you. Hope you save them all. Maybe drop by Sudan on the way home, bit of genocide going on there but no one really cares about them eh?

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:22

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:20

See below posted a while ago. Nothing about children which you are so intent on.

Can you read? Because if you actually read the thread you are quoting, the conversation into which you inserted yourself, you would see that the poster I was responding to claimed that because the Palestinian babies weren’t ‘lined up and shot in the head’, their deaths were morally justifiable.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:20

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 22:46

Sorry, I must apologise, I read it too quickly. Your option should focus on the perpetrator and not the children before I’m called all sorts of names.

See below posted a while ago. Nothing about children which you are so intent on.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:19

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:14

I support the Israeli people, I am of Christian belief. I have already said I do not support the acts of Israel in terms of being disproportionate and extreme. But I do think the Islamic Hamas are using their citizens as cannon fodder. I just don’t understand how a music competition is caught up in this.

Because some people can’t put mass murder to one side and enjoy a singing competition as easily as your good Christian self can.

Isittimeformynapyet · 04/12/2025 23:18

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:07

Was it really? How? I thought I was being annoying and tedious but clearly not. Love all these free Palestine supporters jumping on a Eurovision post. Can you all not start your own post about the war? I’m sure there are numerous threads.

So we boycott TV because they show the Eurovision?

This wasn't pedantry because @EddyNeddy didn't say or imply that viewers would turn off the whole of TV.

Am I being pedantic 🤔

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:17

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:07

Was it really? How? I thought I was being annoying and tedious but clearly not. Love all these free Palestine supporters jumping on a Eurovision post. Can you all not start your own post about the war? I’m sure there are numerous threads.

There are, but unfortunately they've just become very quiet echo chambers for the pro Palestinian supporters, where they just argue amongst themselves because no-once else cares enough to engage. Life has moved on to other things. There’s nothing else to fight for as the hostages have now been released which is all Israel asked for. Hamas can now use the millions they’ve accumulated over the last couple of years to help rebuild….wont hold our breath though..

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:17

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:16

Have you still not read my update? It was posted about 15 minutes ago but still you concentrate on the previous one which I acknowledged as not read properly.

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The post you are quoting is from after I read your update. Keep up. I am questioning why if you don’t, as you now claim, believe that a murder victim’s family are justified in killing the perpetrator’s own child, dead Israeli babies justify dead Palestinian babies?

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:16

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:07

So you don’t think that someone would be justified in murdering your child if your husband murdered their child? So why do dead Israeli babies justify dead Palestinian babies?

Have you still not read my update? It was posted about 15 minutes ago but still you concentrate on the previous one which I acknowledged as not read properly.

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:15

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:07

And so Hamas decided to kidnap, rape and murder some festival goers. For what? What did they honestly think it would achieve. They hid them under the hospitals and schools, and then just waited, with no plan. The only thing they asked for in the two years since is for the release of Palestinian prisoners, but that wasn’t the reason for the killings and kidnaps on Oct 7th. All that’s happened is thousands of dead Palestinians, and Hamas leaders becoming millionaires…

And do you think that everything Israel has done since makes another October 7th less likely? Sure, in the short-term, Hamas’ military capacity is wiped out, but a generation of Palestinian children have just spent two years living through unimaginable terror, with death and destruction raining from the sky, and they will blame that trauma in its entirety on Israel. Being bombed is a radicalising experience - you can’t bomb people out of wanting to kill you.

Everything that the Israelis experienced on October 7th, they have lived for 2 years - and at a far greater scale. Only a small minority of Israelis living in the border communities and at the Nova Festival were in real mortal danger on October 7th. But Gazans throughout the strip were in real mortal danger everyday for 2 years. However traumatised the Israelis are, the Palestinian civilians are a million times more. That is a fact. And it will inevitably lead to more attacks on Israelis that further radicalise them, and another radicalising cycle of violence.

HappyFace2025 · 04/12/2025 23:14

icebearforpresident · 04/12/2025 20:32

I can see why Israel ‘defended’ itself, which in this context would have been a day or two of bombing. What they have done is genocide.Sustained genocide over a period of years.

The criticism with Eurovision is that the second Russian troops stepped into Ukraine they were kicked out of Eurovision. But Israel have came close to winning twice now since the invasion of Palestine and it would have been the end of the contest. I love Eurovision and I believe Israel has a right to exist but it’s not hard to see the hypocrisy in the situation the contest has found itself in.

There has been no invasion of Palestine. Hamas began the war from Gaza by invading Israeli territory.

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:14

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:05

Why do you keep repeating that line without engaging with any of the responses you are getting? Do you seriously believe that ‘Hamas could have stopped it at any time’ justifies any and every human rights abuse committed against Palestinian civilians who had no ability to compel Hamas to do that?

I support the Israeli people, I am of Christian belief. I have already said I do not support the acts of Israel in terms of being disproportionate and extreme. But I do think the Islamic Hamas are using their citizens as cannon fodder. I just don’t understand how a music competition is caught up in this.

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