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Eurovision…… can’t handle this 💩 anymore!

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 19:15

Whoever has pulled out of the Eurovision because Isreal are competing….. pathetic!

Spain, Ireland … to name a few.

Answer me this- if you have a nurse/doctor from Isreal or Israeli decent….. will you not be seen by them?

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 05/12/2025 19:07

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 22:33

Just because Israel was attacked, it does not give them carte blanche to commit all the human rights abuses they want in return.

Both sides are bad. You don’t have to pick one and defend everything they do. That’s the real groupthink, and you are just as guilty of it.

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‘You don’t have to pick one and defend everything they do’ ermmm I don’t see anyone supporting Israel? This is very much one sided in my eyes.

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Netcurtainnelly · 05/12/2025 10:54

Wouldn't bother me if Eurovision was never on again. It lost its way a long time ago.

EddyNeddy · 05/12/2025 09:26

AbsoluteYawns · 05/12/2025 07:39

Do you know there are Muslim Arab Israelis high up in the judiciary, healthcare and parliament and every aspect of Israel? It's not an apartheid state.

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The West Bank is.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 05/12/2025 08:43

Bless you OP, politics is everywhere. Even (especially) in Eurovision.

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 05/12/2025 07:55

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 05/12/2025 07:51

Repeatedly spelling it Isreal makes me think you have not looked into this very deeply OP

You’re right! I haven’t because I don’t spend my spare time looking at politics because the news is full of it. If I need to do my research I will but if you read the OP you’ll note my concerns are regarding why can’t we just stop being silly over a song contest and stop replacing it with politics instead its crazy. I’m my opinion ( which is like an arse hole- everyones got one)

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FuckRealityBringMeABook · 05/12/2025 07:51

Repeatedly spelling it Isreal makes me think you have not looked into this very deeply OP

AbsoluteYawns · 05/12/2025 07:39

Celestialmoods · 04/12/2025 21:26

Someone talking about this on the radio earlier related it to the boycott of apartheid South Africa and made the very good point that it helps send a message to a population about how they are viewed by the rest of the world, which eventually is part of what stops governments doing the wrong thing.

Standing up to apartheid governments is not pathetic. What’s pathetic is stamping your feet because being unable to completely hide from the genocide is uncomfortable for you.

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Do you know there are Muslim Arab Israelis high up in the judiciary, healthcare and parliament and every aspect of Israel? It's not an apartheid state.

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 05/12/2025 07:26

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 21:43

OP - it’s spelt ‘Israel’, not ‘Isreal.’ Kind of an odd mistake for someone who’s apparently such a big fan of the place to make.

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My bad! Spelling and politics not my strong point. But sitting down and enjoying Eurovision is!!!! 😂

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Heronwatcher · 05/12/2025 07:26

HelenaWaiting · 05/12/2025 03:49

For pity's sake, one of the primary stated priorities of the EBU is to promote and protect free public service media. Russia no longer has free public service media, it has been taken over by the government. Hence Russia is banned from the competition because it no longer supports the EBU's priorities. Israeli still has free public service media but it is under increasing attack by Netanyahu, which is why the EBU and those members who aren't grandstanding are anxious to continue to support it. Allowing Israel to continue to participate isn't supporting the country or its government - it is supporting public service broadcast media - something we should all be interested in preserving.

Exactly, let’s also not forget that the international media have been and indeed still are completely banned from Gaza by Israel, despite the ceasefire, with no real
justification. Even Russia has various correspondents on the ground and the media are allowed to report the invasion of Ukraine. Even Israel’s own Supreme Court have challenged this.

Whereas in Gaza the world has had to rely on very inexperienced and threatened local Palestinian journalists for any kind of accurate reporting, many of whom have seen their family and friends killed and horrifically injured or die of starvation or dehydration and faced similar threats themselves. Gaza has been one of the most deadly conflicts for journalists in history.

So why should Israel get to participate in a contest which stands for exactly what it appears to ban?

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SheThinksShesAllThat · 05/12/2025 07:25

Zov · 04/12/2025 22:25

100% agree @SheThinksShesAllThat You won't get many on MN agreeing though. 🙄 Pulling out of the Eurovision Song Contest next year (because Israel is going to take part in it) is childish and pathetic. I will be embarrassed to show my face in mainland Europe again if the UK pulls out!

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I know it’s not going to go down well on MN. But it’s a song contest it should be a way of people to forget the S**t going on in the world. We really live in a sad state right now.

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HelenaWaiting · 05/12/2025 03:49

For pity's sake, one of the primary stated priorities of the EBU is to promote and protect free public service media. Russia no longer has free public service media, it has been taken over by the government. Hence Russia is banned from the competition because it no longer supports the EBU's priorities. Israeli still has free public service media but it is under increasing attack by Netanyahu, which is why the EBU and those members who aren't grandstanding are anxious to continue to support it. Allowing Israel to continue to participate isn't supporting the country or its government - it is supporting public service broadcast media - something we should all be interested in preserving.

Morningsleepin · 05/12/2025 03:34

Dollymylove · 04/12/2025 20:52

Yeah the flag wavers seem to have conveniently forgotten all that. Along with the treatment of females and gays

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Yeap. The only way to females and gays is to bomb them. Everyone knows that

WishingIwasyoungerandslimmer · 05/12/2025 03:30

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Planesmistakenforstars · 05/12/2025 03:17

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:37

There was no need to demand anything. The Israelis were already putting forward a contestant, just as they’ve always done for Eurovision. On the contrary, it’s others that are demanding they’re thrown out.

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Israel has not always put forward a contestant, because they have not always competed in Eurovision. The other countries in question weren't (all) necessarily demanding that Israel be arbitrarily kicked out, they were asking for a vote on it. And the EBU did agree to hold a vote, but reneged on that. I realise that a song contest is not exactly the world's most pressing issue right now, but facts are important.

puppymaddness · 05/12/2025 02:57

Switcher · 04/12/2025 23:27

Completely agree. Israel has been in the competition for 50 years. I don't particularly care for their response to 7/10 , but they are not the aggressor and they are not a sanctioned country who threatens the peace of the entire continent. Im fact in don't see any real parallels with Russia at all.

I don't particularly care for their response to 7/10

The slaughter of 10,000s of children you mean? Is that what you don't particularly care for?

puppymaddness · 05/12/2025 02:33

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 22:11

The hostages taken by Hamas were also raped - both men and women. And saying toddlers were shot in the head is twisting the narrative to something it’s not. Yes, children were killed during the attempts by Israel to retrieve the hostages, which no-one wanted, but please don’t imply that toddlers were lined up and shot in the head….

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*Yes, children were killed during the attempts by Israel to retrieve the hostages, which no-one wanted..."

Can you hear yourself?????

OonaStubbs · 05/12/2025 02:01

Are these same countries going to refuse to compete in the World Cup because of Israel being in it?

StickyToffeePavlovas · 05/12/2025 01:47

Honeycottage · 04/12/2025 20:27

Completely different situation because Russia were the aggressor.
Israel are at war because they were attacked by an invasion of terrorists across the border into their country & hundreds of civilians i.e. babies, children women, elderly people were attacked, raped, mutilated, kidnapped & murdered. Israel were responding to acts of aggression by Hamas & then Hezbollah, Houtis, Iraq. They did not start the war.

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You do realise that what your referring to wasn't the start of the war right? Do you think it only started then?

OmNomShiva · 05/12/2025 00:18

jezlifecoach · 04/12/2025 23:43

Funny that because ‘from the river to the sea’ nonsense literally wants the removal of Israel and the people in it. Now that’s genocide.

bored of hearing about people supporting terrorists. None of you give a hoot about the Christian massacre in Nigeria atm but I guess that’s because it’s not trendy!

go Israel!

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Claptrap.

The reality is, Israel is grinding tens of thousands of children into bone fragments and dust.

That’s it - can you not bring yourself to criticise that utterly abhorrent behaviour ?

rosyvalentine · 05/12/2025 00:13

@EddyNeddy:

"Because some people can’t put mass murder to one side and enjoy a singing competition as easily as your good Christian self can."

Nailed it.

jezlifecoach · 04/12/2025 23:43

scoobysnaxx · 04/12/2025 20:23

Israel has completely gone past defending itself.

they have committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.

of course they shouldn’t compete.

and just don’t with the anti-semetism comments I’m far from it and sick and tired to death of being accused of it because I stand with Palestine.

Funny that because ‘from the river to the sea’ nonsense literally wants the removal of Israel and the people in it. Now that’s genocide.

bored of hearing about people supporting terrorists. None of you give a hoot about the Christian massacre in Nigeria atm but I guess that’s because it’s not trendy!

go Israel!

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:41

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:35

47% of Gazans are children.

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Yep, and children were present in the crowds too. Taken there by their parents for a day out I guess to watch the naked corpse of an Israeli civilian being paraded down their streets on the back of a truck. Shameful…

Abbie7327 · 04/12/2025 23:38

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:36

No harm in having a different opinion. Lots of harm in being a useful idiot, but hey ho.

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Don’t know whether you’re referring to yourself or me as the useful one but thanks for the alternative view. Appreciate it.

Livelovebehappy · 04/12/2025 23:37

EddyNeddy · 04/12/2025 23:32

I won’t. I wasn’t going to in the first place. But this thread wasn’t started by people complaining about Israel’s inclusion - it was started by pro-Israel zealots moaning about other countries dropping out.

You’re free to watch Eurovision if you want to, with the remaining 5 competitors. You have no right to demand that other countries take part to satisfy your need for light entertainment.

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There was no need to demand anything. The Israelis were already putting forward a contestant, just as they’ve always done for Eurovision. On the contrary, it’s others that are demanding they’re thrown out.

user1471557598 · 04/12/2025 23:37

Can you at least spell the country name correctly