To dislike male cleaners in female public toilets?

You get signs up in the gents that there's female cleaners on duty too

It's a shit job but I'm pleased someone is doing it

I don't like male cleaners in the female toilets, but I assume the alternative would be that the toilets closed completely for cleaning.

On balance I'm happy to use as long as I'm warned about their presence.

The alternative is worse. I was desperate to go to the loo the other day, and when I finally got there (a normal multi cubicle facility) it was closed for cleaning. Presumably because a man was doing the cleaning, as I can't think of any other reason why it would be.

As long as there's a sign warning those who have reason not to feel comfortable with it, I have no problem with a man being in there to clean. It's certainly preferable to wetting myself.

If its a busy loo with lots of people coming in and out I'm not too bothered but I once sat in the cubicle in Peter Jones for 20min until the male cleaner left as it was just me and him in the isolated womens loos and I didn't want to be alone with a man I didn't know on my own. So I kept a locked door between me and him. If I had heard other womens voices I would have left the cubicle, but I didn't. There UANBU

It doesn't bother me, they're just doing a job.

If anything it makes me feel safer if there are staff about than if I'm all on my own. Train and bus stations can be dodgy places. The more staff, the better!

Agree. I'm glad someone is cleaning public toilets; they have my respect because I'm honestly not sure I could do it.

That’s entirely understandable, I would think, by anyone with a shred of empathy.
its why they should always put up a warning when a man is actually working there not just one of those signs that’s always there which says there might sometimes be a male cleaner.

I won’t use the loo if there’s a male cleaner in there, especially if there are no other women present. That’s because of long-standing sexual trauma, and because I consider it basic self-care not to put myself in vulnerable situations unnecessarily. Once you’ve had multiple experiences with violent, opportunistic male predators, it changes your perception of risk somewhat. But it’s nice to get my daily reminder that MN thinks my trauma is pathetic, hyperbolic and girly 🤣

Just don't care. As long as they aren't climbing up and looking over the door at my rear end who cares that a person with a penis can hear me wee?

Do you think they are getting off on it or...? I just don't get the problem.

There are often male cleaners in the female toilets at the stations I use. There’s always a sign up, so presumably you could opt out and go elsewhere/wait if you wanted, but it’s not something that bothers me at all.

Truly a national crisis. I’m sure those men are only there to personally inconvenience you and your delicate mirror inspecting needs.
Come on, OP. What is the alternative? To not to clean the toilets ? That would be disgusting.
Give your head a wobble, lovely.

It’s not misandry.

There's plenty of women who clean men's toilets.

If there are men willing to take on low-paid menial cleaning jobs historically done by women, good on them. Nothing wrong with that.

You are being ridiculously unreasonable. WTF are you worried about???

I dislike male cleaners in women’s toilets but I dislike dirty toilets more.

My workplace has male cleaners because there simply aren’t enough women working at the company they contract to.

That said during the day they have enough female cleaners. It’s the heavy duty after hours clean that is typically a man (and they announce their presence before entering but hardly any women around by then.

But in most of those discussions, the majority understand that men with a legitimate reason for being in a female space are fine. Male cleaners, plumbers, HCPs unless a woman has requested female care.

Without meaning to be whataboutery over it, this is kind of the problem I have with the absolutist approach of "no males in female spaces ever", because there are often occasions where a male might be in the female loo for a perfectly fine reason. Mothers with young sons, male cleaners. Male staff doing checks or opening and closing up. Male plumbers and maintenance staff. Male doctors or paramedics if someone is ill. Not to mention what happens if the mens loos is out of order and everyone has to use the ladies.

I don't think the idea of a utopian space which is completely free of men is helpful or realistic when making this argument. The reality is that most "single sex" loos are already fairly blurry.

I'm just happy if the toilet is clean I don't care who's doing it

Usually I'm okay with it, and there's almost always a sign up. I don't like the way that some people just put up a sign saying there may be a mail cleaner, as if it's just a cover their butts, rather than a specific warning when that cleaner is around.

I did feel very uncomfortable a few weeks ago though when I used a public toilet that's a bit out in the sticks. Women's toilet has two cubicles, men's toilet is next door, and it's a detached building. Ie no one could hear you scream...

In comes a bloke still wearing his biker clothing and starts to clean. Doesn't say a word. Thankfully no helmet on, but it took a few moments for me to realise he was the cleaner. That made me feel very vulnerable. At the same time, it would be silly to employ 2 people, but he should have knocked and announced who he was, told me he was the cleaner etc, put up a sign.

The complete and utter misandry that some women feel is disgraceful.

Men cleaning women’s toilets?! How very DARE they?! Get a grip OP. This is a you problem.

You can still reply to those who have taken the time to respond OP, even if we don’t agree

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

Same. Plus the men’s loos stink but you want to do them as quickly as possible before a man comes in and starts waving his penis about

I don’t care who cleans the loo so long as someone does.

I’ve done jobs where I’ve had to clean public toilets and I absolutely hated cleaning the men’s toilets, mainly because I didn’t trust the idea that shouting out…. Is anyone in here, I’m coming in to clean.
The reason I didn’t trust this is because I’ve been flashed at four times from probably age 16- now. (43)
I don’t think male cleaners have this worry.