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Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 19:21

6 year old ASD son. He is currently in process of EHCP application. He struggles socially, has no friends, has weird things about food

H has always said im too soft. Letting him have pudding when hes only eaten cucumber. That kind of thing. H gets v frustrated at DS not eating as H is the house chef really. H always been pretty resistant to adapting parenting but accepts diagnosis and is kind and loving but can also be v inflexible and quick to anger.H much prefers younger DS (none of same challenges). H can get pretty grumpy

Right. So dinner time. DS refusing to eat chicken as he says different to normal stuff. H getting wound up. Me trying to reduce tension. DS says "stop looking at me" as H staring at him. H looks mad. DS getting mad too. Tension rising and both sniping at each other. DS goes to slap H. Its pretty half hearted. DS used to hit a lot when meltdown and we have worked on it a lot together but it still happens. DS barely touches H. H says this is because he moved out the way.

H in response raises his hand to hit DS. I think. Stops himself and then picks up DS chair off the ground and tips it over so that DS falls onto hard kitchen floor. Not from some great height but he definitely picked up the chair and tipped it fully so DS (who was curled up on chair crying) onto floor. Pur kitchen has a fake concrete floor thing

DS bawling. H saying he didn't mean to but he wanted DS to leave room. H saying im overreacting and started blaming me for my shitty parenting!

Currently putting two v upset boys to bed. I think it's fucking horrendous. H thinks DS went to hit him and H was just getting him to leave the room

Pls tell me what to do

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lessglittermoremud · 03/12/2025 21:10

Donttellempike · 03/12/2025 21:07

If I were in your shoes I would be wondering what has been going on when you aren’t there

^This
If your son has food issues, they aren’t going to suddenly be cured when you’re not around, either he is giving him what he knows he will eat so there isn’t an issue or he’s somehow making him eat it.

WiltedLettuce · 03/12/2025 21:10

lazyarse123 · 03/12/2025 21:05

Cannot believe how many pp are making excuses for the poor stressed man. What about the small child who can't eat his chicken, not because he's being picky but it sounds like sensory issues? I don't have an autistic child but I've read enough to know this is a thing.
There is a massive size and strength difference between a 6 Yr old and a man in his 40s. What did he seriously think would happen if a little kid slapped him?
He doesn't really accept the diagnosis and thinks you can smack it out of him.
Poor kids i would be tempted to tell him to stay away for a while and have a think about how his actions have impacted 3 people, two of them little kids.

Edited

Yes, children don't eat for all sorts of reasons.

Children and food is a really bad one to get wound up about. You're essentially denying your child's autonomy over what they put in their mouth.

Battles over food are damaging and never worth it.

NerrSnerr · 03/12/2025 21:10

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 21:09

I feel like I want DS to tell the teachers too. Thats what in my gut...I hope he says something

You are your son’s protector. You can tell school first. Don’t put all the responsibility onto a small child to tell someone.

usedtobeaylis · 03/12/2025 21:09

Your 6 year old child isn't manipulating you, but your grown ass husband is trying to.

Alicorn1707 · 03/12/2025 21:09

@Spiderwoman123

a few observations;

your son is ASD, that in itself puts pressures on your family, you seem to be well informed about how best to support your son, your husband does not seem to be coping therefore he needs to better educate himself.

You mentioned that your husband is the family chef and it royally pisses him off if the kids criticise his efforts. This could be addressed simply by putting the food into serving dishes on the table and each person helps themselves to what appeals best. Could that be an improvement for you all?

There should certainly be a concerted effort for finding a creative solution around mealtimes that will suit both your husband and your son.

Finally and most importantly to you my lovely. You're trying to keep your family afloat but you sound exhausted, stressed and unsupported by a husband who needs to do better.

I presume, as you seem to be the higher earner that you've made a family decision for you to be full-time whilst he is part-time? But that surely means he then should take off some of the mental load not add to it.

He, your husband is not your third child, you both should be facing the challenges of having an ND son, together.

What he did with your son shows that he is not coping.

So, in a calm moment, you need to have a conversation about how best to move forward to ensure a safe and contented home, for all of you.

I wish you all the very best @Spiderwoman123 it is not unfixable but changes should be made. 🌸

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 21:09

Badgersandfoxes · 03/12/2025 21:04

Op. Listen to your child. Ask your husband to leave. He’s not saying “strange stuff” he’s telling you what your husband is doing. I really hope he does tell his teachers so they can help protect your son.

I feel like I want DS to tell the teachers too. Thats what in my gut...I hope he says something

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Donttellempike · 03/12/2025 21:09

Badgersandfoxes · 03/12/2025 21:04

Op. Listen to your child. Ask your husband to leave. He’s not saying “strange stuff” he’s telling you what your husband is doing. I really hope he does tell his teachers so they can help protect your son.

This 💯

Megifer · 03/12/2025 21:09

Id have already called 101.

PartyAnimalQueen · 03/12/2025 21:08

Squishedpassenger · 03/12/2025 19:25

In short, it sounds like your partner is ND and unless he understands that, he won't understand his triggers well enough to find and use coping mechanisms when he feels frustrated. This is obviously a huge risk when you are parenting a child and especially a child with additional needs.

No! Do not make excuse for an abusive arsehole who is bullying a 6 year old child. I say this a ND parent of 2 ND children.

WiltedLettuce · 03/12/2025 21:08

The incident itself is bad enough, but what worries me is that this seems to be a flavour of your DH's general parenting - shouty, aggressive, high conflict.

The absolute opposite to what a child dealing with your DS's challenges needs.

Where is your DS's safe space? Life is going to be hard enough for him at school, he needs support and allowances made at home. In a shouty, aggressive, judgemental atmosphere where everyone is walking on eggshells, how is this little boy meant to decompress?

Ksjushona · 03/12/2025 21:08

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 19:33

What is so awful is H is defending it by saying "DS was trying to hit me". He talks like theyre the same rather than one is 6 and one is in his 40s. This wss the most physical ive seen him but he does shout and then say "DS was shouting too"

DS in bath said "is that what some daddies do?". I feel like half my brain is sayinh this is awful get out, and the other half is saying he lost his temper but he didnt want to hurt him

It all happened in 10 seconds but he did pick uo the chair off the ground and tipped it 90 degree. The only thing he can have meant to happen is for DS to fall. It felt v extreme and I really reacted by grabbing DS off floor as was genuinely scared for him. H then said my reaction caused both boys to cry and run out of room!

The fact that your husband is defending himself and still trying to blame a small child I think says it all… No apology or feeling remorse? That’s what’s worrying to me after what he has done!

StellaMary · 03/12/2025 21:08

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 21:00

Thats pretty much word for word what I've just been saying to H. H isnt taking any of it. Telling me DS only refuses dinner when im there and when he has them by himself he doesnt get any shit. I let them eat too much sugar. Im making stuff up. Im exaggerating. He thought he would land on his feet and only noticed DS was tucked up in a ball as he was picking uo the chair

The thing is if DS had been hitting and hitting and H lashed out that would have been one thing. He honestly barely touched H and then he started crying in a ball on the chair. He wasn't hitting H.

DS just called me up to his bed and said some strange stuff. He talked about daddy pushing him and he said he was gonna tell teachers. Then he followed that up by saying "mummy and daddy are most important people in your life". It wss quite odd. When he was crying he was saying "why do I have a scary daddy". H says DS manipulating me in thise moments because he knows how to get a reaction.

I do feel maybe I need to talk to school. I feel really worried what might happen

Please listen to your child, op. He is trying really hard to tell you what’s going on.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/12/2025 21:08

Prepare yourself for that story to get relaid to your son’s support staff and for that to be logged on MyConcern. Are there any bruises on him?

NerrSnerr · 03/12/2025 21:07

Please talk to the school OP. Also tell them that your son wanted to tell his teachers so they give him a safe space to talk.

PartyAnimalQueen · 03/12/2025 21:07

Deleted as I forgot to refer the correct poster. Re-posted further down!

Donttellempike · 03/12/2025 21:07

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 21:00

Thats pretty much word for word what I've just been saying to H. H isnt taking any of it. Telling me DS only refuses dinner when im there and when he has them by himself he doesnt get any shit. I let them eat too much sugar. Im making stuff up. Im exaggerating. He thought he would land on his feet and only noticed DS was tucked up in a ball as he was picking uo the chair

The thing is if DS had been hitting and hitting and H lashed out that would have been one thing. He honestly barely touched H and then he started crying in a ball on the chair. He wasn't hitting H.

DS just called me up to his bed and said some strange stuff. He talked about daddy pushing him and he said he was gonna tell teachers. Then he followed that up by saying "mummy and daddy are most important people in your life". It wss quite odd. When he was crying he was saying "why do I have a scary daddy". H says DS manipulating me in thise moments because he knows how to get a reaction.

I do feel maybe I need to talk to school. I feel really worried what might happen

If I were in your shoes I would be wondering what has been going on when you aren’t there

NerrSnerr · 03/12/2025 21:05

Breadandbutta · 03/12/2025 19:34

Do not LTB. He isn't a bastard. It's really common in neurodivergent families and you need family support - early help from social workers ... reach out to the school and explain that things are tense at home and incidents are escalating. The school can offer help and support. I don't think people without physically aggressive autistic children can understand the amount of sheer pressure it puts on a person who is unlearning parenting in the way they were raised, to be more neuroaffirming and low demand. It is so common for neurodivergent families to need support with this. Speak to the senco tomorrow. They can refer you for family support.

How do you know this for sure? He could just be an abusive fucker. It’s so dangerous to make snap judgments after one post on the internet.

lazyarse123 · 03/12/2025 21:05

Cannot believe how many pp are making excuses for the poor stressed man. What about the small child who can't eat his chicken, not because he's being picky but it sounds like sensory issues? I don't have an autistic child but I've read enough to know this is a thing.
There is a massive size and strength difference between a 6 Yr old and a man in his 40s. What did he seriously think would happen if a little kid slapped him?
He doesn't really accept the diagnosis and thinks you can smack it out of him.
Poor kids i would be tempted to tell him to stay away for a while and have a think about how his actions have impacted 3 people, two of them little kids.

Badgersandfoxes · 03/12/2025 21:04

Op. Listen to your child. Ask your husband to leave. He’s not saying “strange stuff” he’s telling you what your husband is doing. I really hope he does tell his teachers so they can help protect your son.

Sunflower459 · 03/12/2025 21:04

His lack of remorse is pretty disgusting, OP. Just compounds the whole thing really. What would you like to be the outcome?

lessglittermoremud · 03/12/2025 21:00

My DH has had to rethink his parenting style with our eldest child who is autistic, my DH used to say things like ‘why can’t he just do as he’s told’ or similar.
They would both shout at each other, neither backing down and it was awful to be honest. It was only when I said I would leave with the children that he actually took on board what I was saying, the paediatric consultant etc and really tried to modify his behaviour. He himself was brought up in a household where you did as you were told or your parents wanted to know why, typical 80’s upbringing.
Firstly your husbands behaviour is unacceptable, picking up a chair with a child on it to get him to leave the room is awful and you are right to be concerned and I would be in telling him in no uncertain terms that he needs to control himself or leave.
The family therapist we spoke to after our sons diagnosis said that my husband was grieving for the ‘normal’ child he thought he would have, he was out of his depth totally when dealing with any situation which had to be verbally unpicked and calmly discussed when our son had calmed down because he was still inwardly cross that our son hadn’t just listened to him in the first place.
I think the final moment that broke the cycle they were in was that our son sobbed to his Dad that he knew he didn’t love him. My DH was broken hearted because he loves all our children, he just found the others easier and had more in common with them. My husband then started making a real effort to calm down, find a common ground and ask me to step in if he was feeling out of his depth.
We are now 5 years further in and they have a great relationship, our son has matured and thrived at high school after having no friends at primary because secondary is more regimented and they both know when to give the other some space, for example my DH has learnt there is no point asking our son to do anything for at least an hour after school because he shuts himself away in his room so he gives him that time to decompress etc
I guess what I’m trying to say in a very long winded way is that your husband needs to admit when he has behaved badly and must want to change/take on board advice to prevent further escalation.
You are your child’s biggest advocate, no one is perfect but your husband is not a child and should not be retaliating/arguing with a small child.

Spiderwoman123 · 03/12/2025 21:00

AliceMcK · 03/12/2025 20:49

Words that would be coming out of my mouth

You just fucking assaulted your child!
I don’t care if he tried to hit you he’s a six year old child, your a fucking adult, grow up!
You blame my parenting one more time and we are done!
at least I’m trying to be a better parent by understanding his issues what the fuck have you done!
a child not liking their dinner is no excuse to stand over them and intimidate them, if it was a&es would be full of children flipped off their chairs every fucking night by parents!
im sick of parenting 3 children, grow the fuck up, even better go see a dr before I take my children and leave your childish violent arse here!

My DH has adhd and has been known to fly off the handle easily and struggles with some other things, I would and have said these things including “I don’t give a fuck about your adhd your the adult here”

There is no way I’d stand back and let this happen again. I also no longer have quiet words, I make sure any times I feel the need to call him out, which hasn’t been for a long time, I do so as it’s happening and I front of the DCs. I’m all for parents being on the same page and a united front but not at the detriment to my children.

Thats pretty much word for word what I've just been saying to H. H isnt taking any of it. Telling me DS only refuses dinner when im there and when he has them by himself he doesnt get any shit. I let them eat too much sugar. Im making stuff up. Im exaggerating. He thought he would land on his feet and only noticed DS was tucked up in a ball as he was picking uo the chair

The thing is if DS had been hitting and hitting and H lashed out that would have been one thing. He honestly barely touched H and then he started crying in a ball on the chair. He wasn't hitting H.

DS just called me up to his bed and said some strange stuff. He talked about daddy pushing him and he said he was gonna tell teachers. Then he followed that up by saying "mummy and daddy are most important people in your life". It wss quite odd. When he was crying he was saying "why do I have a scary daddy". H says DS manipulating me in thise moments because he knows how to get a reaction.

I do feel maybe I need to talk to school. I feel really worried what might happen

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Sunflower459 · 03/12/2025 20:58

usedtobeaylis · 03/12/2025 20:53

It must be utterly shite for those diagnosed with autism and who manage not to abuse their children to read that it's the reason for an endless parade of men who abuse their children. I can't remember the last time I read a thread about a man's appalling behaviour and it didn't come back to neurodivergence.

As a ND woman I’m honestly really depressed at how prevalent it is. All my life I’ve seen boys and men have their bad behaviour excused with neurodiversity while I was labelled as plain old stroppy/weird/angry. I’m quite sure that if it had been the female parent who had tipped that chair the reaction would have been quite different.

NoisyViewer · 03/12/2025 20:58

NessShaness · 03/12/2025 20:51

None of that is relevant to an ND child. Was your brother ND?

Do you understand that “rewarding” desert for eating something they cannot physically eat does not work and can be damaging?

why is it only relevant to ND children. Most kids play up at dinner time. It doesn’t have to end up in WW3 but you also don’t have to reward the not eating either. If you have an incentive for him to try something then use it. How do you differentiate between normal behaviour & ND behaviour because most 6yo would behave in this way given the chance. Picky eaters isn’t a new phenomenon. Being ND doesn’t mean there is to be no boundaries either.

begonia27 · 03/12/2025 20:57

I totally get you reacting strongly to this. I would to. Your husband is an adult and is responsible for his actions, and picking up a chair and throwing your son off it onto a hard floor is totally unacceptable. He could have seriously injured him. To then blame your parenting? Hard no. And there is no way your child bears any responsibility here. No matter how unreasonable children are, they don’t deserve to have their father losing control and acting like that. Parents are human, yes, but it doesn’t sound like your husband has any interest in learning coping strategies. But I think you have to take a clear look at what your options and your kids’ options are here. It’s easy for people to say LTB to protect your son, but then if your husband has any access to your son, you don’t have control of what happens when you aren’t there. That would worry me more at his age. Equally from what you have said, your husband is currently not willing to take any steps to address his behaviour. Is there any chance that if you let him calm down and then pick this up with him in a supportive way, he might have shocked himself enough to see this as a turning point? Or does he genuinely believe there was nothing wrong with what he did? If that’s so, honestly I would self refer your family to social services. It’s a last resort, but your priority needs to be to keep your son safe, and if your husband won’t or can’t see that physically endangering your six year old child is wrong, I don’t see you’ve got many choices. They will look positively on you having approached them proactively for help. If not, and if school or another party hears that there is this level of violence in your home, you may be judged to be complicit for not acting to protect your son. I’m really sorry, OP. You sound like you are on eggshells a lot of the time trying to smooth over tensions and that’s exhausting alongside working full time.

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