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PeriMumEndofHerTether · 03/12/2025 17:12

I've changed my mind about the death penalty. I think all pedos and rapists should get an automatic death sentence. It's the only way to eradicate the faulty gene in men. And yes, MEN.

Lurkingandlearning · 03/12/2025 17:11

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 17:08

The thread has moved on. Hanging is clearly the premium execution choice.

Most posters here would go for slow roasting, or maybe descent into boiling oil.

Personally I think we should monetise executions and have the condemned have to run a couple of hundred yards across a pitch whilst people who have paid a few hundred grand get a chance to take them out with dum dum bullets.

(If anyone wants to report this comment, it's sarcasm level is moderate)

All very interesting but can’t see why you quoted my post

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 17:10

Those who believe that prison is a nicer option that death penalty clearly have no idea of how unpleasant a place prison will be, particularly for men.

I disagree. Clearly a lot of posters here have very intimate knowledge of the UK prison system, hence their expert take on it.

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 17:08

Lurkingandlearning · 03/12/2025 17:02

I wonder how many of the people who want capital punishment to be returned would be willing to pull the lever. Not who will bluster hypothetically that would be happy to, but who would actually kill the convict.

The thread has moved on. Hanging is clearly the premium execution choice.

Most posters here would go for slow roasting, or maybe descent into boiling oil.

Personally I think we should monetise executions and have the condemned have to run a couple of hundred yards across a pitch whilst people who have paid a few hundred grand get a chance to take them out with dum dum bullets.

(If anyone wants to report this comment, it's sarcasm level is moderate)

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 03/12/2025 17:07

Those who believe that prison is a nicer option that death penalty clearly have no idea of how unpleasant a place prison will be, particularly for men. Yes they'll get their 3 square meals a day, a roof above their heads and access to TV etc but the vast majority will have to constantly look over their shoulder, likely never sleep a proper wink of sleep again due to the risk of attacks, essentially be on constant high alert. Also, other prisoners really do not like those who harm children, he won't last long and it will not be a nice quick neck breaking death- more likely he'll be repeatedly stabbed with a makeshift dirty instrument as he slowly bleeds out. And nobody will really care.

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 17:05

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 03/12/2025 16:59

It's high on whataboutery, and it's high on attempting sarcasm.

Maybe next time.

Whateverabout

StewkeyBlue · 03/12/2025 17:03

Personally I am not prepared to allow the criminal, murderous , malevolent scum of the earth to influence or set my own values: we do not kill people.

flirtygirl · 03/12/2025 17:02

Until we live in a non sexist, non racist and non classist society then no death penalty.

No matter what people think, the facts are that women get longer sentences than men for the same crime plus crimes they should never be imprisoned for like defending domestic violence.

White working class and underclass get sentenced more and longer sentences than white middle class who do the same crime and black people get sentenced more and longer sentences than others for the same crime.

Imagine if all that was applied to a death penalty.

Men like this one should get life in prison and castration. We should also have prison labour camps making them work until death.

Instructions · 03/12/2025 17:02

Because principles matter even when it is hard and painful to stick to them

The death penalty is wrong and it is as wrong for people who do great evil as for anyone else

I would not feel the world had lost anything if he died; I would still not want state sanctioned killing

Lurkingandlearning · 03/12/2025 17:02

I wonder how many of the people who want capital punishment to be returned would be willing to pull the lever. Not who will bluster hypothetically that would be happy to, but who would actually kill the convict.

Mandarinaduck · 03/12/2025 17:01

He might deserve the death penalty but we all don't. We deserve to live in a society that minimises violence. It shouldn't be on any one's job description to execute another human.

Bagsintheboot · 03/12/2025 17:01

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:59

Paedophiles don't tend to last long in prison, à la Ian Watkins.

Try again, there are an awful lot of paedophiles in prison who have been there a very long time.

People should not be hung to satisfy some people's perverse bloodlust.

WhereYouLeftIt · 03/12/2025 17:00

My grandmother used to watch the news and announce "hanging's too good for him". I took her literally, and still do. Hanging would be too good for him. Hangings ends your life, but because you're then dead you don't feel it, only the people around you are still alive to feel it.

No, my preferred option is that they should have a long and unhappy life in prison, knowing there is zero possibility of parole, knowing everyone you encounter in prison thinks you're less than human, knowing only death will end your punishment.

Hanging's too good for him.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 03/12/2025 16:59

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 16:54

And you cannot bring them back and apologise.

Of course you can. I mean it does fuck all, but I am sure there are some benefit claimants who should be exhuming the wrongly executed according to the MN hive mind.

(If anyone wants to report this comment, it's sarcasm level is high)

It's high on whataboutery, and it's high on attempting sarcasm.

Maybe next time.

hattie43 · 03/12/2025 16:59

There’s a lot of people who should hang to be fair .

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:59

Bagsintheboot · 03/12/2025 16:57

Don't be so daft. He didn't have the right, which is why he's going to prison.

Paedophiles don't tend to last long in prison, à la Ian Watkins.

MoFadaCromulent · 03/12/2025 16:59

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:56

But he had the right to take away kids' innocence and screw them up for life, didn't he?

You think he'd be jailed for something he had a right to do?

Squishedpassenger · 03/12/2025 16:59

I more think of people like Sharon Carr when it comes to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Carr

I just think that she can never be released and it is cruel to keep someone institutionalised as a criminal for their entire adult life. I guess Axel would fit into that, too. I don't think he has a chance of rehabilitation.

I think the court of protection should decide these cases and whether some form of euthanasia is more ethical.

I feel differently about someone who receives a whole life sentence as an adult. I think they should just die in prison.

Sharon Carr - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Carr

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 03/12/2025 16:58

We can't have the death penalty.

It's inhuman, and we're better than that monster.

Bagsintheboot · 03/12/2025 16:57

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:56

But he had the right to take away kids' innocence and screw them up for life, didn't he?

Don't be so daft. He didn't have the right, which is why he's going to prison.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:56

Indianajet · 03/12/2025 16:53

No, we have no right to take a life.

But he had the right to take away kids' innocence and screw them up for life, didn't he?

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 03/12/2025 16:55

Because he apparently has human rights, despite waiving them when he did what he did. That's why.

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 16:55

HermioneWeasley · 03/12/2025 16:49

I don’t know. Where there’s no doubt (like Axel Rudakabana) I think we should have the death penalty

So presumably you accept there are people in jail for murder where there is doubt ?

Charming.

MightyFlow · 03/12/2025 16:54

Because cases like that of Peter Sullivan? 38 years in prison for murder before DNA proved he was innocent.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd04x43vg1ko

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2025 16:54

And you cannot bring them back and apologise.

Of course you can. I mean it does fuck all, but I am sure there are some benefit claimants who should be exhuming the wrongly executed according to the MN hive mind.

(If anyone wants to report this comment, it's sarcasm level is high)