Why can’t we just hang scum like this?

Yes I fully agree with the reasons why we don't have the death penalty but I'd make an exception for him and Wayne Couzens.

The money spent keeping even 2 or 3 of these in prison for life should be spent on the victims/families instead

Of we could put it towards compensating all those people wrongly convicted and jailed for decades ?

To be honest, a high profile prisoner who has committed sexual offences against little children….may not last that long in prison.

Angela Canning, Sally Clark, Judith Ward were all convicted of child murder. All later acquitted. I can't support the death penalty while innocent people could pay the ultimate price

So let me get this clear.

Murderers who we aren't sure about can be locked up forever.
But murderers we are sure about get hanged ?

Seems so simple. You have to wonder what they spend the other 10 years at law school doing ?

There was a female nursery worker who sexually abused children in her care, Plymouth.

But i get your point.

Perhaps rather than ask for the death penalty, we should be asking "How did this happen?"
How did a man abuse toddlers in his care for many years, its a closed environment, he should never have been allowed to continue his vile abuse, where are the checks? what concerns were raised and then not acted on?

Sure we could hang him but it wouldn't stop this type of abuse by others.

Exactly.

I think if it's incredibly clear cut we should move towards euthanasia as an option where there is true evil, incurable psychopath, depraved and totally unredeemable.

Evidence dna and video etc these days means we are often 100% sure of guilt in some cases.

The money spent keeping even 2 or 3 of these in prison for life should be spent on the victims/families instead

I don't think there is much of an intersection.

We don't treat prisoners humanely because of any failing in our own morality. We treat prisoners humanely to display our own humanity.

Uniquely among animals, human are able to develop social behaviour around abstract laws. It's that which makes us human. descending into revenge or vengeance and succumbing to animal instinct rather undermines that.

I agree with this.

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

I think if life genuinely meant life or you couldn’t get released early fewer people would want hanging. He’s a monster and would be no loss to the world.

Because there's the logical argument about mistakes etc.... However there is also the fact that, hanging is an easy for them! I would be up for them being taken to one of the worst prisons in the world, pretty sure it would cost us less than it does to keep them in one in this country. If that didn't deter scumbags, not much would.

Those who are against the death penalty because it’s inhumane/ could be a wrongful conviction but gleefully explain that the perpetrators may well be tortured, raped and murdered in prison which is better… how do those two ideas exist simultaneously?

This.
Because we have to be better than to answer violence with more violence, or what is the point?

Any evidence that it's genetic? If so, should we be pro-actively killing those with the specific gene?

There are many cases where it is clear the guilty person has been convicted. That, in the public mind should result in a death sentence.
The rationale for not doing so is that the 'clarity' can soon become a bit blurred.
Also, some argue, it debases society.

He is not going to last in jail and you know it - just like what's his face, the Pakistani man with his daughter and the musician scum, they died this year in jail, did they not?
But no to hanging the innocent or even if there is a shadow of a doubt.

Why not ? We used to.

I think it's better to keep them in prison, they have accidents so have to sleep with one eye open.
There's also the chance they will send up with a hulking great cell mate who goes by the name of Honeysuckle.....

Agreed. Where there is no doubt and no further victims to find (although info is rarely given over that aids with finding others) I think it is a far more sensible outcome than 50 years in prison where, such as with Hashem Abedi, they are able to attack more people.

Men like this and the police man who has just been sentenced for raping babies are whey I could never claim to be against the death penalty. I really wouldn’t mind if these men were not sharing our air.

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But there is doubt. And we cannot risk killing an innocent person.

I'm not sure either ? Site glitch, cosmic rays, or fat fingers I guess 😀